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05 Jan 2011, 7:07 pm

Not only was his study tying vaccines and autism full of BS, it now appears it was genuinely fraudulent.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40930256/ns ... al_health/

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/au ... 1&iref=BN1



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05 Jan 2011, 7:24 pm

Looks like he might have manipulated data to support his hypothesis.



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05 Jan 2011, 7:29 pm

Somehow I am completely unsurprised. Given the consequences of his fraud, is there any chance at all he'll face legal consequences?



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05 Jan 2011, 7:31 pm

I was just about to post this. However it's good news.


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05 Jan 2011, 7:55 pm

Sooner or later it comes out in the wash so to speak. This false idea of vaccines cause all of autism is a variation of false ideas like it's the fluoride in the water, food additives cause all neurological diseases from polio to Parkinson's, and the only reason for a neurological disease is a lack of megadoses of Vitamin C. Apparently some doctors can get away with the fraud for years before it is found out.



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05 Jan 2011, 8:15 pm

I hope his tests that show vaccines cause super powers isn't also fraudulent... I got three flu shots this year with the promise that I can fly.



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05 Jan 2011, 8:17 pm

pgd wrote:
Sooner or later it comes out in the wash so to speak. This false idea of vaccines cause all of autism is a variation of false ideas like it's the fluoride in the water, food additives cause all neurological diseases from polio to Parkinson's, and the only reason for a neurological disease is a lack of megadoses of Vitamin C. Apparently some doctors can get away with the fraud for years before it is found out.

it is all part of the international communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.



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05 Jan 2011, 8:58 pm

It makes you wonder how many other studies have been manipulated?



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05 Jan 2011, 9:02 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
It makes you wonder how many other studies have been manipulated?


We're opening a big can of worms there



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05 Jan 2011, 9:30 pm

bucephalus wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
It makes you wonder how many other studies have been manipulated?


We're opening a big can of worms there


Time to go fishing!


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05 Jan 2011, 9:30 pm

Well, often times it comes clear because other scientists want to get in on the action and be the first to replicate a new, interesting study; and if they get to discredit the new, interesting study, that's practically as good (for their career and for science). So it's not so bad as it could be. Self-interest generally supports good science--it's when it doesn't that bad things like Wakefield happen.


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05 Jan 2011, 9:33 pm

What makes you wonder is why it took so long to discredit this Wakefield study...
This controversy has the possibility of making science look generally bad.



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05 Jan 2011, 9:43 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
What makes you wonder is why it took so long to discredit this Wakefield study...
This controversy has the possibility of making science look generally bad.


They actually had to do the studies without fudging the data. :P


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05 Jan 2011, 9:44 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
What makes you wonder is why it took so long to discredit this Wakefield study...
This controversy has the possibility of making science look generally bad.


Only to non-scientists.


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05 Jan 2011, 9:46 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
What makes you wonder is why it took so long to discredit this Wakefield study...
This controversy has the possibility of making science look generally bad.


Only to non-scientists.

Only to anyone who thinks data shouldn't be manipulated to support the outcome desired by the ones conducting the study...



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05 Jan 2011, 9:49 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
What makes you wonder is why it took so long to discredit this Wakefield study...
This controversy has the possibility of making science look generally bad.


Only to non-scientists.


More specifically, non-scientists with an agenda any which way.


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