British mothers thrown out of nursery for being.. British :/

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20 Jan 2011, 11:54 am

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... british.do


I wonder how far its gonna go before crap like this is stopped. The Equality and Human Rights Commision said it was not unlawful to bar British mums and children from such a group. But you could bet your house that if it were muslim mothers being rejected, there'd be outrage.


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20 Jan 2011, 3:17 pm

murphycop wrote:
But you could bet your house that if it were muslim mothers being rejected, there'd be outrage.


A little nitpick.

Since when were 'Muslim' and 'British' mutually exclusive?



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20 Jan 2011, 3:54 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
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But you could bet your house that if it were muslim mothers being rejected, there'd be outrage.


A little nitpick.

Since when were 'Muslim' and 'British' mutually exclusive?


You know what I mean, i'm saying if they were Muslims being rejected from a nursery, there'd be flag burning and such.


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23 Jan 2011, 6:31 am

So is it only England and America that have better rights and programs for foreigners than for their own citizens?



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23 Jan 2011, 9:27 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
So is it only England and America that have better rights and programs for foreigners than for their own citizens?


It does seem that way.


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23 Jan 2011, 9:54 am

Since you mentioned it being a big deal if it were a foreign person, the media is really unbalanced in terms of racially motivated crimes because it does not want to be ruin the countries "image" and stir up racial hate.

However, my friends dad was cycling and accidental brushed past a black woman and her kid and thants to CCTV was cautioned for racially motived assault.

Meaninwhile, down in England (me being in Scotland)

Gangs of Asian youths target and brutally attack white people shouting racial abuse, but senior police officers in a position to give statements to the media often declare it non racially motivated and sometimes the media does not even pick up on the stories.

I am not racist in any way but I think think equality means reporting and dealing with things fairly and not hiding or distorting the facts.

http://warband.wordpress.com/category/pack-attack/

Sorry for kinda going off topic


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23 Jan 2011, 10:16 am

From what I can gather the nursery itself is only working according to the rules of its funding. It seems that someone in the system has become confused about how to "integrate" foreign mothers into the community. The ONLY way to integrate people is to get them into the same place at the same time. There should be people of ALL creeds using this facility, so that the parents and the children get to mix together. Otherwise the claim, that this nursery is promoting a multicultural integration is a huge pile of crap.


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23 Jan 2011, 12:02 pm

From what I read the place was set up to help immigrant mothers by providing a free service.

This british woman only saw 'free' and decided she wanted in. If she had tried to go to the gov. services and asked for benefits that are available to immigrants she would not have gotten them either.

She wanted a freebie and decided to play the victim card. 15 minutes of fame.



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23 Jan 2011, 12:51 pm

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From what I read the place was set up to help immigrant mothers by providing a free service.

This british woman only saw 'free' and decided she wanted in. If she had tried to go to the gov. services and asked for benefits that are available to immigrants she would not have gotten them either.

She wanted a freebie and decided to play the victim card. 15 minutes of fame.


Doesn't matter why she wanted in, the point now is that the organisations stated goal is integration, which is impossible if there is no integration going on. Thus funding is being wasted and the genuinely helpful goal is turned into a ridiculous home-goal.


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23 Jan 2011, 1:17 pm

murphycop wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
So is it only England and America that have better rights and programs for foreigners than for their own citizens?


It does seem that way.


Perhaps I ought to move to England then. :P I don't know, how bad is the rhetoric against Americans in British popular media? In America, nowadays, there's nothing specifically against the people of England although themes of "anti-imperialism" and anti-authority in general are present in a lot of media. In one of my wife's textbooks regarding "cultural diversity" it has some extremely racist statements against Anglo-Saxons in general. The term "Anglo-Saxon" not even necessarily referring to people of English decent only, but basically anyone who doesn't maintain a permanent sun tan level of melanin or greater. As it is, I'm French and Irish genealogically, but I would be considered "Anglo-Saxon" which is used interchangeably with "white", caucasian, and European. Being within the subset of "Horribly Evil Whiteman" I'm therefore the last in line for consideration when applying to corporations. When applying at anywhere electronically, for instance, I've noticed that if I select "white" for their "optional" questions regarding race, that I don't get an interview most of the time. However, if I click "other" or "I prefer not to disclose" I usually do get an interview nearly immediately.



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23 Jan 2011, 1:24 pm

Dantac wrote:
From what I read the place was set up to help immigrant mothers by providing a free service.

This british woman only saw 'free' and decided she wanted in. If she had tried to go to the gov. services and asked for benefits that are available to immigrants she would not have gotten them either.

She wanted a freebie and decided to play the victim card. 15 minutes of fame.


The point is that the nursery shouldn't even exist, not if its just for foreigners.


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23 Jan 2011, 1:26 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
murphycop wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
So is it only England and America that have better rights and programs for foreigners than for their own citizens?


It does seem that way.


Perhaps I ought to move to England then. :P I don't know, how bad is the rhetoric against Americans in British popular media? In America, nowadays, there's nothing specifically against the people of England although themes of "anti-imperialism" and anti-authority in general are present in a lot of media. In one of my wife's textbooks regarding "cultural diversity" it has some extremely racist statements against Anglo-Saxons in general. The term "Anglo-Saxon" not even necessarily referring to people of English decent only, but basically anyone who doesn't maintain a permanent sun tan level of melanin or greater. As it is, I'm French and Irish genealogically, but I would be considered "Anglo-Saxon" which is used interchangeably with "white", caucasian, and European. Being within the subset of "Horribly Evil Whiteman" I'm therefore the last in line for consideration when applying to corporations. When applying at anywhere electronically, for instance, I've noticed that if I select "white" for their "optional" questions regarding race, that I don't get an interview most of the time. However, if I click "other" or "I prefer not to disclose" I usually do get an interview nearly immediately.


Haha wow! Well as an American you'd be treated pretty much the same as us. If you wanted to stay here you'd have to get married to an English woman. Well for full time citizenship.


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23 Jan 2011, 1:29 pm

I read this story in the newspaper, and it is absolutely outrageous. It's proof right there that Britain has been taken over by foreigners. I'm up for a war :evil:



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23 Jan 2011, 1:43 pm

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I read this story in the newspaper, and it is absolutely outrageous. It's proof right there that Britain has been taken over by foreigners. I'm up for a war :evil:


I'll join you


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23 Jan 2011, 2:00 pm

murphycop wrote:
Simonono wrote:
I read this story in the newspaper, and it is absolutely outrageous. It's proof right there that Britain has been taken over by foreigners. I'm up for a war :evil:


I'll join you


Against whom? It isn't "foreigners" who created one-sided legislation or bothered to raise a generation or two of people without usable job skills.


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23 Jan 2011, 2:05 pm

murphycop wrote:

The point is that the nursery shouldn't even exist, not if its just for foreigners.



Does the UK not have immigrant-only programs in schools/universities and other benefits available only to non-british residents? They exist for a reason... this case is just one example of someone trying to tap into a free service set up for others.

There is very little information in the article as to the nursery itself... but it does state it is council-run and therefore likely to be state-funded. Since it is a free service its likely set up to provide child care for immigrants who maybe could not afford a daycare for their kids.

"Trainee midwife Ms Wildman, also from St Neots, chose the group because it was free - other groups in the area charged £2"

That right there is why she went. It was free. If she was a low income british mother that could not afford to pay the other nursery places then she would be receiving some other sort of aid from the gov. services. Thing is, I doubt that is the case for this woman.. she simply saw a way to save some money by taking the kid to a free daycare center.