did they think I was a hypochondriac? try another place?

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27 Jan 2011, 7:30 pm

I did my first appointment ever today which only lasted 45 minutes and no
couch to relax on, unlike the movies :\

I forgot to mention many things I was going to and wonder if he thought I was
just trying to fake having Asperger's or make whatever I do have into that.

I did tell him I thought I had that and he asked why, I kinda froze up and
only gave a few minor things. I was quite nervous for some reason.

At some point he also mentioned I don't have a problem explaining myself and
talking to him or making eye contact. I stated that when there is an
established relationship it's not much of a problem. Also I couldn't think of
an example of how I missed or didn't interperet body language correctly. I also
picked a bad example for really getting into a hobby and understated it also.

I had been thinking of what to say and that all went out the window. Not
trying to think what would best exemplify what I think I have so much as I have
so much to talk about or issues at hand. I couldn't explain how I walk funny
when bored sometimes either.

I did leave him a stack of tests I had taken.

I definitely didn't explain well at all my attempt at making a friend. I just
said I thought she was interested in more then friends which she wasn't and said
conversation seemed one sided. I didn't explain that she thought I threw a fit
when i didn't get my way or just went silent.

I didn't mention I think I may view the world in a child like manner as far as
observing everything and even interacting via touch with no apparent joy
forthcoming from it.

As for overthinking things and analyzing he asked why I think I do and I said
I think it's just how I am.

He said I possibly have social or general anxiety and probably a self
confidence issue. And I have some thought about fear of something happening or
negative thing about myself that is probably unjustified and causes the anxiety.

So, my question is, because I no longer want to be alone after 29 years should
I try someone else also? Was it just too early to tell or didn't want to lead
me on? Or does he not have enough experience with this in adults? I can't be a
hypochondriac as I thought I was fine until I finally did meet someone I had
common interests with and still failed. Iv'e only had like 5 friends.

How did other's first meetup go that were pretty sure that they had Aspergers?



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27 Jan 2011, 11:40 pm

I pretty much totally dominated the conversation. I had a long litany of things and I just opened up the floodgates and let it rip. I went in REALLY well prepared, with a list of things on my lap top to keep me on track, prepared answers for possible objections and specific examples in mind as they related to different criteria in the DSM-IV.

Come to think of it, it was all very aspie.

I'm not sure what we're going to talk about now that I've made my case and he agrees with me.


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28 Jan 2011, 12:11 am

Thanks, I should have made a list too. I brought in a stack of tests I took but didn't mention it until the time was up. I thought I knew what to talk about but I got really nervous and kinda locked up. I was talking but it was scattered maybe and not as detailed as I would have liked. I gave a really dumb answer to the spirituality question. I also didn't expect to be asked for examples of not picking up on signs and body language so I couldn't think of any. I think I don't even notice them at all. I didn't even mention my lack of emotional expression. He thought I made eye contact and could talk about myself quite well enough, but my brain was going too fast maybe and it's different when there is an established relationship. I make words come out that make sense but they aren't really expressive of what I really was trying to say :\

So I assume that was just recently? How many appointments did it take? How often did you have to wait between them? I'm like a worried, nervous, analytical wreck. Trying to reevaluate everything and wonder how others view the world if it's not like I do.



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28 Jan 2011, 7:22 am

sevenspeed wrote:
I gave a really dumb answer to the spirituality question.


What spirituality question? What does spirituality have to do with autism?

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I also didn't expect to be asked for examples of not picking up on signs and body language so I couldn't think of any. I think I don't even notice them at all.


The paradox here is that if you can't easily perceive body language how would you even know if you missed it? It's like asking a blind person to tell you what parts of the rainbow can't they see.

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I make words come out that make sense but they aren't really expressive of what I really was trying to say :\


Write it all down. Bring it with you.

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So I assume that was just recently? How many appointments did it take? How often did you have to wait between them?


6 appointments over 6 weeks.

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I'm like a worried, nervous, analytical wreck. Trying to reevaluate everything and wonder how others view the world if it's not like I do.


I was hyper focused on it the entire 6 weeks - analyzing everything! This could work for you if you write important things down as you figure them out. Then you won't forget to bring them up.


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28 Jan 2011, 2:34 pm

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I gave a really dumb answer to the spirituality question.


What spirituality question? What does spirituality have to do with autism?

It doesn't but it is a big issue for me somewhat and was one of the standard questions he asked. I pretty much said with the world the way it is I don't see how there could be a god but I guess I'm Agnostic. I did believe in the trend that we create our own reality based on our subconcious thoughts and the higher power in the universe is beyond our comprehension but can personify itself however we believe, hence all the religeons. But that idea got rocked with recent events. My subconcious beliefs can't be that messed up. Why would I get contacted and meet a person that I think is awesome and the one for me, only to cause her stress and misinterperet things leading to a wierd friendship with stress on her and my realization that I have social problems. That is way off topic but my world really has been turned upside down.

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I also didn't expect to be asked for examples of not picking up on signs and body language so I couldn't think of any. I think I don't even notice them at all.


The paradox here is that if you can't easily perceive body language how would you even know if you missed it? It's like asking a blind person to tell you what parts of the rainbow can't they see.

That's what I thought. But I agreed maybe there wasn't any. I'm not even sure if I look for any.

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I make words come out that make sense but they aren't really expressive of what I really was trying to say :\


Write it all down. Bring it with you.


I definitely will, I didn't know I'd lose it all, but I did expect a couch to relax on too.

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So I assume that was just recently? How many appointments did it take? How often did you have to wait between them?


6 appointments over 6 weeks.

That's more then I expected so if I have to wait 2 weeks between appointments that would be 3 months :(

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I'm like a worried, nervous, analytical wreck. Trying to reevaluate everything and wonder how others view the world if it's not like I do.


I was hyper focused on it the entire 6 weeks - analyzing everything! This could work for you if you write important things down as you figure them out. Then you won't forget to bring them up.


I'm doing that also. Took tests and reading a book about it.

Thanks.



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28 Jan 2011, 2:48 pm

sevenspeed wrote:
So, my question is, because I no longer want to be alone after 29 years should
I try someone else also? Was it just too early to tell or didn't want to lead
me on? Or does he not have enough experience with this in adults? I can't be a
hypochondriac as I thought I was fine until I finally did meet someone I had
common interests with and still failed. Iv'e only had like 5 friends.

How did other's first meetup go that were pretty sure that they had Aspergers?


I ended up with a diagnosis of PDD-NOS with notes in the report that despite the fact that many of the symptoms she hadn't noticed during our appointment weren't obvious (many of the same you mentioned ~ that were confirmed by my father as having been present in childhood) were probably no longer present because I had learned to adapt and cope, which is not unusual.

I took two tests, the Woodcock Johnson, and another I can't remember off0hand, before the appointment. Interestingly, those tests, according to her report, indicated high scores for possible Hypochondriasis (meaning they indicated I could be a Hypochondriac). When she noted that in the report she said that indicated I'm either a Hypochondriac, or had genuine medical and/or psychiatric issues.

DUH! :lol:

Just out of curiosity, I took a bunch of on line screening tests for Hypochondriasis after reading her report. Guess what the results were?

Every one of them said, "You are either a Hypochondriac, or you have real medical problems, and should seek professional help. :roll:

So the only way to get a result that says you aren't one is to say "No" to every question on the tests. :scratch:

I wonder if the results would read "You are either in perfect health, or in total denial!" :lol:


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28 Jan 2011, 2:57 pm

your experience sounds alot like part of how I have envisioned my up coming appointment with a psychologist going. I'm still a bit insecure in my belief that I am an aspie and I can see how my answers and reactions to that type of questioning might be similar. I want to relax and put some sort of faith into getting the right diagnosis no matter what it is... but at the end of the day I'm a little nervous about not understanding the questions they ask and letting my nerves get the best of me and end up back tracking or down playing things i think are important.



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28 Jan 2011, 3:14 pm

MrXxx wrote:
sevenspeed wrote:
So, my question is, because I no longer want to be alone after 29 years should
I try someone else also? Was it just too early to tell or didn't want to lead
me on? Or does he not have enough experience with this in adults? I can't be a
hypochondriac as I thought I was fine until I finally did meet someone I had
common interests with and still failed. Iv'e only had like 5 friends.

How did other's first meetup go that were pretty sure that they had Aspergers?


I ended up with a diagnosis of PDD-NOS with notes in the report that despite the fact that many of the symptoms she hadn't noticed during our appointment weren't obvious (many of the same you mentioned ~ that were confirmed by my father as having been present in childhood) were probably no longer present because I had learned to adapt and cope, which is not unusual.

I took two tests, the Woodcock Johnson, and another I can't remember off0hand, before the appointment. Interestingly, those tests, according to her report, indicated high scores for possible Hypochondriasis (meaning they indicated I could be a Hypochondriac). When she noted that in the report she said that indicated I'm either a Hypochondriac, or had genuine medical and/or psychiatric issues.

DUH! :lol:

Just out of curiosity, I took a bunch of on line screening tests for Hypochondriasis after reading her report. Guess what the results were?

Every one of them said, "You are either a Hypochondriac, or you have real medical problems, and should seek professional help. :roll:

So the only way to get a result that says you aren't one is to say "No" to every question on the tests. :scratch:

I wonder if the results would read "You are either in perfect health, or in total denial!" :lol:


I know it shouldn't be but that is kind of funny. Not your situation but the either serious problems or a hypochondriac. I hope I'm not in total denial about my health too :) In my defense I avoid medication and going to the doctor but i suppose I could be a mental hypochondriac, then again I thought I was just shy and hadn't met the right people until recently.



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28 Jan 2011, 4:15 pm

I tend to think being a hypochondriac can almost certainly be a serious medical problem. Especially given that it is distinct from factitious disorder/malingering.



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28 Jan 2011, 5:01 pm

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I also didn't expect to be asked for examples of not picking up on signs and body language so I couldn't think of any. I think I don't even notice them at all.


Isn't this like them asking, at the airport, "Has anyone put anything in your luggage without your knowledge?" Once upon a time, that was the script they used. I think they stopped using those exact words a long time ago because they got so many responses of, "If they did it without my knowledge, how would I know to tell you about it?"

I would have to agree with those who have said to write everything down. If I do decide to seek a formal diagnosis, that's what I'm going to do - otherwise I'll do exactly what you did, fumbling to explain myself, minimizing or forgetting to mention issues, etc.

If he/she asked me to provide examples of my missing nonverbals, I would right out ask how he expects me to do that, if I'm missing them to begin with. I would (try to) elaborate on the fact that I often have a difficult time knowing whether or not someone is joking or seriousor if they're sad and angry, then mention the fact that I have never - that I am aware of - had anyone flirt with me (I mean, never? Not once in 50 years? I'm no male model, but I'm not that hideous! :lol: ) unless they blatantly said they were interested in me. Then I'd reiterate that, if I'm missing out on nonverbal signals, I am (pretty much by definition) unaware of most of the ones I am missing.



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28 Jan 2011, 6:17 pm

Oddly enough, it seems like the very communication problems that make you suspect you may be autistic are the ones that are contributing to your ineffective communication with the person who is trying to evaluate you... Perhaps you could get a second opinion and write down what happened at the first meeting, the things you didn't really manage to communicate, and why you suspect the first person didn't get all the information you needed to communicate, so that you want a second opinion.


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28 Jan 2011, 7:17 pm

sevenspeed wrote:
MrXxx wrote:
sevenspeed wrote:
So, my question is, because I no longer want to be alone after 29 years should
I try someone else also? Was it just too early to tell or didn't want to lead
me on? Or does he not have enough experience with this in adults? I can't be a
hypochondriac as I thought I was fine until I finally did meet someone I had
common interests with and still failed. Iv'e only had like 5 friends.

How did other's first meetup go that were pretty sure that they had Aspergers?


I ended up with a diagnosis of PDD-NOS with notes in the report that despite the fact that many of the symptoms she hadn't noticed during our appointment weren't obvious (many of the same you mentioned ~ that were confirmed by my father as having been present in childhood) were probably no longer present because I had learned to adapt and cope, which is not unusual.

I took two tests, the Woodcock Johnson, and another I can't remember off0hand, before the appointment. Interestingly, those tests, according to her report, indicated high scores for possible Hypochondriasis (meaning they indicated I could be a Hypochondriac). When she noted that in the report she said that indicated I'm either a Hypochondriac, or had genuine medical and/or psychiatric issues.

DUH! :lol:

Just out of curiosity, I took a bunch of on line screening tests for Hypochondriasis after reading her report. Guess what the results were?

Every one of them said, "You are either a Hypochondriac, or you have real medical problems, and should seek professional help. :roll:

So the only way to get a result that says you aren't one is to say "No" to every question on the tests. :scratch:

I wonder if the results would read "You are either in perfect health, or in total denial!" :lol:


I know it shouldn't be but that is kind of funny. Not your situation but the either serious problems or a hypochondriac. I hope I'm not in total denial about my health too :) In my defense I avoid medication and going to the doctor but i suppose I could be a mental hypochondriac, then again I thought I was just shy and hadn't met the right people until recently.


It IS pretty funny! I didn't take any offense to what she said, because that's just the nature of Hypochondriasis. The only way to know for sure whether a patient is in fact a Hypochondriac, is to do a complete psychological AND physical evaluation. If no evidence can be found for the complaints, it's probably Hypochondriasis. If most of the complaints can be verified, it isn't. Either way, a full work up is necessary. Still the result is like saying, you either are or you aren't, which is kind of a "Duh!" statement as an answer to any complaint. :lol:


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28 Jan 2011, 11:20 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:
The paradox here is that if you can't easily perceive body language how would you even know if you missed it? It's like asking a blind person to tell you what parts of the rainbow can't they see.


I figure I must be missing some body language signals or I wouldn't be almost running into everybody while walking in the hallways, a lot of times I just stop and let the other person go first. The buffets are challenging as well, I have to force myself to be methodical in looking around before I move or the food would be flying. What most people do intuitively and fluidly is forced and mechanical for me.


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