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Angelon1ft
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23 Mar 2011, 11:18 pm

I'm just curious to hear other people's numbers. I don't know anyone that knows theirs, and I just got tested. I scored 130 so I'm pretty happy with that, although I was having trouble concentrating! :-P



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23 Mar 2011, 11:46 pm

Well done on your score. I don't know mines but might like to find out some time.

I speak to a guy from England (I am in Scotland) online quite a bit. He has an IQ of 160 which would put him in the top 0.02% if i correct. Same IQ as Einstein. He is a damn smart guy, things very realistically whilst maintaining an open mind to a lot of things.

I have learnt a lot off him.


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23 Mar 2011, 11:57 pm

Dang!! That IS a high score! He must be a pretty intelligent person! Yes - you should definately get tested! You may suprise yourself!! :)



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24 Mar 2011, 12:05 am

I definitely want to get tested but I have health problems which need sorted out first. I am constantly fatigued due to what I am 95% sure is Chronic Candida.

I felt smarter before I had Candidsas. My brain is just dull now.

I'd predict that when I am my normal self I am maybe at around 105, to possibly 110 at the very most.

Perhaps more but I am not willing to be overly optimistic :P


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24 Mar 2011, 12:07 am

My IQ is 142. I got tested a few months ago because my therapist wanted to see what would my score would be.


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24 Mar 2011, 12:12 am

122 +/- 4.

IQ doesn't necessarily mean intelligent, it just means (the higher the IQ) you can become intelligent pretty fast. It's just a measure of how well/fast you learn new things.


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24 Mar 2011, 12:42 am

If you have a huge head ache while being tested, it will sway your results.

I'm curious to why IQ tests are not trial related and conducted over a period of time for better preparing of mental health difficulties.

It's said that IQ fluctuates +/- 4, but this is not true in Bi-Polar.

*some one could have made a more specific version for aspie's too..



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24 Mar 2011, 12:42 am

I once took a test, on the Mensa website I think, that was 142. But I was given one in high school and scored 129. I don't know why there is a discrepancy.


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24 Mar 2011, 12:42 am

Aww that's unfortunate :( Hopefully it's not chronic! What are your symptoms? I work for an Infectious Disease physician, so we see a lot or unusual things! I hope you get that confirmed and treated so you can return to your normal self! :) ... I did not know that! So it's actually a measurment of how easily you can learn? Hmmm. :)



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24 Mar 2011, 12:51 am

Huh - so a bipolar individual would not fluctuate on scoring? You made me re-read my initial question, lol, because it just so happens that I had a horrible migraine (hence being distracted) and I am bipolar. I was thinking "did I put that in there?" It was so odd that you brought up both of those things! Ha! Do you know what causes someone who is bipolar to test differently?



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24 Mar 2011, 1:01 am

Angelon1ft wrote:
Aww that's unfortunate :( Hopefully it's not chronic! What are your symptoms? I work for an Infectious Disease physician, so we see a lot or unusual things! I hope you get that confirmed and treated so you can return to your normal self! :) ... I did not know that! So it's actually a measurment of how easily you can learn? Hmmm. :)


Thank you for your Concern :)

I typed up this explanation before so let me just show you how I am attempting to tackle it.

Letter I originally sent to my Dr

"Firstly I would like to mention I have the Autistic Spectrum Disorder (ASD) mental health issue of Aspergers and Mild Autism officially diagnosed. So far in life this has lead me to a lot of difficulty with social interaction and most specifically, verbal communication is extremely difficult due to most of my cognitive capacity being used up by being overly self conscious about how I am speaking and trying to related to the person. This gives me little opportunity to communicate my thoughts as I would like to. Because of this, I would prefer to be able to communicate by email as I can write in my own time and think so much more clearly.

This way I actually hope to engage in meaningful productive discussion and not be wasting my own time and the time of others, by failing to be able to communicate in a verbal conversation.

Now health wise;

I do not sleep properly. It takes me from about 1 hour to 2 hours to fall asleep almost every night. I wake up a few times every night. It then takes from about 5 minutes to 25 minutes for me to fall back asleep. I also wake up suddenly from dreams a few times a week.

During the day when I first wake up it may take me about 30 minutes to an hour to fully wake up. After that, any time from about an hour to 6 hours I will start to feel very bad brain fog.

By brain-fog I mean;

Heavy headed tiredness
Inability to focus
Poorer memory, especially short term
Inability to be coordinated
Agitated more easily
Verbal communication skills become worse than they normally are
More likely to become paranoid
Lack of ambition

Half of the time I WILL get heart palpations and feel as if there is a strain on my heart.

I remember being like this since a very young kid, so it is nothing new, but something definitely getting worse over time. Heart Palpitations is something relatively new to my health though.

Tests which were carried out at the Holburn Medical Group have shown that my B vitamin levels are fine, that Iron levels are fine and that my Thyroid levels are fine.

The same tests showed that Phosphate levels recently came back as low, indicating I needed more calcium. I am supplementing 125% of the daily allowance at the moment to compensate. The supplement is taken with a meal, ideally with fat in it is help absorption. I quite often feel very extreme and sudden bouts of itching, which I do believe are possibly connected to low phosphate levels.

I also believe that I have had problems with intense bouts of itching for several years but I am unable to say what the actual cause might be.

I have sensitivities to sugar and to many psychotropic drugs (which includes Alcohol, Caffeine, SSRI's, Cannabis and various stimulant substances). None of which I go near at all now, apart from sugar which is found in lots of food. I would never eat a product with refined sugar.

Recreational drug use is absolutely nothing to do with it. I know this because I have noticed sensitivities since I was a young child. I just thought it was fair to mention it, to show that I do realise that in general, my body is very sensitive to what I ingest.

I also suspect I may have sensitivities to wheat and other gluten containing products.

It is also likely in this case that I am sensitive to food additives such as Glutamate compounds which is found in a large variety of food products. I believe this because when I used to eat at places like McDonalds and Sub Way, I would have very large energy crashes an hour or so after eating there.

It is likely sensitivities I have are making the symptoms of Autism I have much worse than they could be. On this alone, I believe I should be entitled to receive testing and treatment.

I have considered the following things in this article. Many of the things listed sound entirely plausible but it is very difficult for me to single out any specific causes without being put through testing first. I have asked for testing in the past for fatigue related things, but have made little progress in tacking the causes.

http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/brain_fog.htm

I would appreciate help looking into the following potential health problems contained within that article and help in being taken seriously by the NHS for obviously having some kind of health problem which I cannot over come myself.

The two most likely things in my opinion are probably a Candida infection or heavy metal toxicity. Candida could have been caused by my poor diet throughout my life which contained lots of sugar, starchy foods and lacked nutritional foods. Heavy metal toxicity could have been caused by an older style vaccine from when I was a child which used certain metals as a preservative or certain foods like fish if I do have a sensitivity to absorbing heavy metals also. My records would need to be checked to confirm vaccine contents.

I still must say there is no way of ruling out anything else. I’d like to consider things such as an elimination diet, which I may need the low rate of DLA to afford, digest tract testing and heavy metal testing.

Kind Regards

Patrick Neville"

This is what treatment I am trying at the moment:

To cure it I am avoiding as much carbohydrates and sugars as possible (complex carbs break down into simple sugars). I am making use of alkalising foods such as ginger and garlic as they are widely recommended for reducing the amounts. I am also eating some Organic eggs rather than my strict vegan diet, because neither of them break down into sugars which can feed the Candida organism. I still eat some spinach, other salads, brocoli and a few other things but I am just making my choices more limitted and more nutrient dense.

I need to avoid caffine, alcohol, foods with fungal, yeast or mushroom ingredients, even if they are only extracts, as they promote growth.

There are a wide variety of supplements, herbs and foods available which have anti-fungal properties. I am slowing buying more and more and attempting to reduce the growth.

I am using a probiotic to help restore a bacterial balance which is more favourable towards preventing future over growths.

I am using Milk Thistle extract as it helps stimulate the liver to get rid of the toxins. I am also wanting a few other supplements which absorb the toxins and flush them out rather than them being processed by the organs.

When Candida is alive is produces an alcohol toxin as well as over 100 more. When it dies off, due to alkaline foods and anti fungals it releases all the toxins stored within it making symptoms temporerarly worse. This could be from a week, to a few months.

To minimise the impact of 'die off' I need to apply supplements to absorb the toxins, try and be physically active to get the organs working without them being over whelmed by toxins and aim to sweat out all I can rather than the organs deal with them.

The symptoms are widely known as 'brain fog'. In other words Chronic fatigue. I deal with it pretty much every single day, some days being worse / better than others."

I am using a couple extra things at the moment and believe they are working but I am in a bit of a haze for now.


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24 Mar 2011, 3:23 am

I think I scored 145 back in the dark ages. But, honestly, they pretty much are just testing you on ... how well you take IQ tests.



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24 Mar 2011, 3:51 am

Know my IQ, but don't care, and don't tell people because they'll stereotype me by it.

IQ is irrelevant.


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24 Mar 2011, 4:03 am

Callista wrote:
Know my IQ, but don't care, and don't tell people because they'll stereotype me by it.

IQ is irrelevant.


I'm considering going that route. When I do tell mine, people (who know me online anyway) try to make excuses for it and crap in a way I find really offensive.


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24 Mar 2011, 5:26 am

I haven't done an IQ test in more than forty years - it was 160 or so back then. I joined Mensa, but we parted company fairly quickly.

I'm fairly sure its dropped a bit since then, of course. You can't spend forty years assaulting brain cells without taking a little bit of damage. I've been diabetic for the last quarter of a century too, and several times a week I'm reduced to idiocy by hypoglycaemia. That kills brain cells too.



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24 Mar 2011, 11:56 am

mra1200 wrote:
122 +/- 4.

IQ doesn't necessarily mean intelligent, it just means (the higher the IQ) you can become intelligent pretty fast. It's just a measure of how well/fast you learn new things.


Good point.
Consider this:

IQ scores (strongly ) correlate with SAT scores, and going by that, a 160 IQ doubles a 100 IQ average score by 1550 vs. 700+. ( SAT old--verbal +math.)

You could say that 'said person' in the "same time" had the acquisition of knowledge' twofold.' But I don't think this inclines or enables higher reasoning or understanding of esoteric principles, as trumping the lesser.

Feynman ( a physicist) scored 125 on a high school IQ test and won the Nobel prize in '65. Crick's ( the DNA man) 115.

Clearly There is more here than this metric of cognitive ability.

My 1 cent.

My self: 131 IQ.

See IQ and SAT: http://www.assessmentpsychology.com/iq.htm#comparisons.