MrMark on adbatstone

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All right boys and girls,

I’m sure it’s obvious to everyone by now that adbatstone is a crass and vulgar person intent on offending people and getting himself banned. What may not be so obvious is why. Adbatstone clearly has a very poor self-image. He’s probably lonely and board and wants attention and validation. What I think he wants to do is provoke a response that is as hostile and rude as he is, thus proving to himself once again that his world-view is correct. If this is true, then providing him with the desired response helps him feel better about himself. He can say to himself, “You see I was right.” Countering his hostility with kind, positive statements will probably just increase his hostility. That’s the second last thing he wants. The last thing he wants is to be ignored. That’ll just drive him absolutely f****n’ nuts. The reason for all of this is because this is a person with a lot of pain and this is how he deals with his pain. I’ve ignored him because I feel there’s nothing I can do to help him and I don’t want to encourage him. (Triage, help those you can.) I imagine his response to me will be to vent some hostility my way, or maybe he’s smarter than that (probably so) and will just ignore me so as to neither encourage nor validate me, or maybe he’ll come up with some creative response I haven’t anticipated. I could be wrong about a lot of this, but there’s one thing I know for sure. The way people react to others says a great deal about the people, but not much about the others. Adbatstone and I are two excellent examples of this principle. Can you think of others?

“Please continue the petty bickering, I find it most intriguing.”
-Data

The advice I would give to anyone who sees a hostile or derogatory post made by adbatstone is read them but don't respond to them as I believe it is a form of attention seeking. Some of what he says is offensive, he knows it and this is designed to provoke a reaction. If he gets this reaction, he gets what he wants. Just ignore him, I'm sure he will eventually tire of it when he sees that no-one can be bothered to respond to any of his posts. I find it quite sad that someone feels the need to get attention in this way but he needs to learn that this isn't the way to do it, so lets help him people by ignoring all his derogatory, offensive posts instead of rising to them however sorely tempted we may be.......

gee you're sweet

Why thank you

Don't take this as a criticism, its more of a light-hearted observation.

But I wouldn't call opening a thread named "MrMark on adbatstone" ignoring him. Infact if (and I am not saying this is what he wants, I don't have a clue) he does want attention, then opening a thread named for him is success. Even if the thread says to ignore him.

Like I said, not criticism.

Point taken. The headline was designed to attract the attention of others. I deliberately refrained from addressing him directly.

Well there is likely not words we could have said to change the situation. And
sure we do not need negative hurtfull things being posted on WP. But I do not judge
a person by the few words they post here. I try to build in my mind a complete view by subtracting what they say from my on mind to deduce what they may be like
in real life. Granted its not perfect because I'm an odd person but there are basic
driving forces that make us alike. What I'm trying to say is I do not want to throw
people away. I wish a version of Adbatstone could have lived on.

Yeah, I know what you mean. But he brought it on himself, it's what he wanted.

I thought this was going to be a thread like

Mr Mark on 60 minutes
or
Mr Mark on Plenty of fish
not
Mr Mark talks about a troll.

I'm sorely disappointed.

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warrio ... cateur.htm

http://www.flamewarriors.com/

Do I win a prize for getting it right?

i dont know who you are talking about, but a lot of kids in here need hekp and encouragement , not analysis and ganging up on, this is a form or e-bullying, all aspies are or were bullied, at least in here we can be ourselves without being bullied.
leave the kid alone.

Very amusing, LOL, sorry to disappoint.

*Ding, Dong* *Ding, Dong*

Ring the bells, play the trumpets cos adbatstone is gooooooone


Thank you admin

agreed! There is to much bullying going on here.

Corcovado and donkey

If you'd read some of whatsisfaces's posts you'd understand why there is some desire to encourage him (or her?) to be "civil". I'm not sure I'd call that bullying. As previously suggested, the best way to do this is to only respond to the "civil" posts and pretend you never even saw the ones that are not.

Strangely I can't find guidelines or rules on posting in here or any definition of "civil". There is only the "terms of service" which are currently very "dry" and only suggest that if you post something that will get you in trouble with the law, that you're on your own and you get to take full responsibility.

Edit - I found them - a sticky in the General Autism discussion forum...Not a place I look often because I mostly use the active posts link.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.htm ... ic&t=12459

whatsisface broke most of those posting rules.

I guess not having specific rules about what people post allows more freedom of expression, and also a chance to evolve from poor social skills (as far as writing goes), to better social skills. Because if we got thrown out for making an offensive post, I don't think many aspies would last very long. I think I'd have been tossed out for my first post...

That said, I don't think whatsisface was aspie, and s/he was behaving like the archtypal bully that is the bane of most aspies' school life. I think it would be wrong to call trying to exclude bullies like this "bullying" too.

If you want to see an example of whatsisface acting like a bully, check this thread out.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.htm ... highlight=

about 13 posts down.

Due to a diverse array of insulting remarks I wonder if whatshisface was an individual or a dorm room team of trolls.

Interesting notion, though I would think a dorm room team of fully-functional trolls could do better than that. Hell, we can do better than that!