Aspie wrongly jailed for rape gets Govt payout

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14 Apr 2011, 7:00 am

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/4 ... ovt-payout
Subsequently after a few years in the can he got released while a retrial was being arranged, and while out for that they tested the DNA evidence which proved his innocence.

Video interview with his Mum, boy she's still pissed
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/mother- ... 3196/video

Some of the issues around the case are outrageous

- He had an alibi that put him at the opposite side of ChCh at the time, but his then legal aide lawyer didn't use it.
- The woman picked him out of a photo montage and said she was 90% certain it was him even though 'the chin was different'
- Attacker smelt of alcohol and cigarettes, while Mr Farmer did not use either.
- Attacker had jeans on, while Mr Farmer was in a one piece motorcycle suit with a backpack
- Attacker had stubble on face, while Mr Farmer doesn't grow stubble.
- Attackers Motorbike had white mudguards, while Mr Farmer's didn't.



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14 Apr 2011, 7:06 am

So it's some tart lying about rape again? I have a friend who'd be interested in this story...



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14 Apr 2011, 7:23 am

Tequila wrote:
So it's some tart lying about rape again? I have a friend who'd be interested in this story...

Its not clear whether thats the case, or there was a rape but it was someone else.
Boy his Mums great though, I heard an interview on the radio, the lawyer who got him out in the end said theres no question he would be rotting in jail for another 6yrs then released as a convicted rapist if it wasn't for her.



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14 Apr 2011, 7:45 am

This is uplifting, thanks for posting, the victim - and I know she must must have through an awful ordeal throughout - should have been more careful, the aspies original defence lawyer sounds like a moron if he didn't use the alibi.


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14 Apr 2011, 8:45 am

At least he's going to be getting money that he needs, after being wrongly jailed.


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14 Apr 2011, 9:53 am

Tequila wrote:
So it's some tart lying about rape again? I have a friend who'd be interested in this story...


No. She was raped, just not by this guy.

Nothing gives me violent tendencies like idiotic comments like the quoted.



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14 Apr 2011, 10:18 am

wefunction wrote:
Tequila wrote:
So it's some tart lying about rape again? I have a friend who'd be interested in this story...


No. She was raped, just not by this guy.


Ah, OK. Fair enough. In which case, my apologies. The NZ Police should have been far more circumspect about this though instead of wrecking this poor guy's life. And mud sticks, after all.

I hope the NZP find the scumbag who violated her.

My reasoning for saying what I said in the previous post is that there are quite a number of cases of 'women' lying about rapes that never even took place, often in a wicked attempt cover up infidelity or embarrassment.



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14 Apr 2011, 10:32 am

Tequila wrote:
wefunction wrote:
Tequila wrote:
So it's some tart lying about rape again? I have a friend who'd be interested in this story...


No. She was raped, just not by this guy.


Ah, OK. Fair enough. In which case, my apologies. The NZ Police should have been far more circumspect about this though instead of wrecking this poor guy's life. And mud sticks, after all.

I hope the find the real creep who violated her.

My reasoning for saying what I said in the previous post is that there are quite a number of cases of 'women' lying about rapes that never even took place, often in a wicked attempt cover up infidelity or embarrassment.


And there are uncountable rapes that never even get reported because women don't want to go through the humiliation of people claiming they're lying to cover up infidelity or embarrassment after being violated and attacked in such an intimate and personal way. When someone burgles your apartment, you stay in a hotel for a night or two if you don't feel safe. Where do you escape if you've been raped?

Yes, the executive and judicial systems failed here by not making sure they arrested and prosecuted the right man. It looks like he's receiving a lot of support and positive restitution for their harmful mistakes and I hope it does go a long way to repairing the damage it's done to his life and reputation. None of that changes that she was raped and there was evidence of a rape. The evidence just didn't match this guy's DNA. Whatever you share with your friend, make sure you share the right information and not skew this as some perverse proof that women lie about rape because the story of these two people does not fit into that agenda.



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14 Apr 2011, 10:40 am

I'll admit, I was wrong on this. I'm sorry.

That said, the police should have looked at all the evidence.

And yes, many rapes are never reported - often because they can't be proved. How can you prove something that, to all intents and purposes, could just be consensual sex - i.e. no scars, bruises, evidence of a struggle, and so on. Traumatic as hell for the women involved (and, yes, I have known quite a few women who have been raped).



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14 Apr 2011, 11:06 am

wefunction wrote:
Tequila wrote:
So it's some tart lying about rape again? I have a friend who'd be interested in this story...


No. She was raped, just not by this guy.

Nothing gives me violent tendencies like idiotic comments like the quoted.


She's still a liar. She DID say HE did it. And since rape is one of the crimes where DNA evidence is pretty damn 'damning' I think we can assume innocence. So yes, it's bad to be raped. but I think it's worse to be in prison for a crime you didn't commit.



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14 Apr 2011, 12:03 pm

russian wrote:
wefunction wrote:
Tequila wrote:
So it's some tart lying about rape again? I have a friend who'd be interested in this story...


No. She was raped, just not by this guy.

Nothing gives me violent tendencies like idiotic comments like the quoted.


She's still a liar. She DID say HE did it. And since rape is one of the crimes where DNA evidence is pretty damn 'damning' I think we can assume innocence. So yes, it's bad to be raped. but I think it's worse to be in prison for a crime you didn't commit.


She's misidentified the assailant in the line-up but even stated that the chin was different. The blame does not fall to her. She is not a liar. She was obviously very honest throughout the entire process.

Anyone who wants to compare these two wrongs should experience both and then return with a first-hand opinion of those experiences. Until then, my butt is available for kissing.



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16 Apr 2011, 7:41 pm

I remember watching an old tv news article (60 minutes ?) about Mr Farmer's case. It pointed out the arresting officer decided to target Mr Farmer, because he wanted a conviction more than finding who actually committed the rape, and probably prejudice. The officer in question retired a long time ago and was not approached and questioned about his actions.


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17 Apr 2011, 5:20 am

Well done that Mum. She's wonderful.



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17 Apr 2011, 8:13 am

people who bear false witness reap the whirlwind.



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18 Apr 2011, 5:41 pm

wefunction wrote:
She's misidentified the assailant in the line-up but even stated that the chin was different. . .
That is, she is trying to do a good job. The police need to also do their part.



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18 Apr 2011, 5:45 pm

Ahaseurus2000 wrote:
I remember watching an old tv news article (60 minutes ?) about Mr Farmer's case. It pointed out the arresting officer decided to target Mr Farmer, because he wanted a conviction more than finding who actually committed the rape, and probably prejudice. . .

I have heard and read about this in a number of cases. Basically, the police officer (and later the district attorney) gets in a frame of mind of just clearing the books.