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Would you give up sexuality for eternal youth?
Yes, at the drop of a hat! Sexuality isn't very important to me. 21%  21%  [ 7 ]
Yes, at the drop of a hat! Sexuality isn't very important to me. 21%  21%  [ 7 ]
Yes but I'd miss sexuality forever. 12%  12%  [ 4 ]
Yes but I'd miss sexuality forever. 12%  12%  [ 4 ]
No but I'd regret it forever. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
No but I'd regret it forever. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
No way! what would there be to live for?! 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
No way! what would there be to live for?! 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
Irrelevant, neither are that important to me. 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
Irrelevant, neither are that important to me. 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
I'm already immortal you silly rabbit. 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
I'm already immortal you silly rabbit. 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 34

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03 Aug 2006, 2:40 am

I consider this a philosophical question more than random or relationship oriented so I put it here.

If you could attain eternal youth or extreeme longevity, but only at the cost of your sexuality would you take it? We're talking about the loss of sexual desire as well as functionality and a reduced libido. Would it be worth it?

People who consider themselves old can assume youthfulness would return upon attaining etternal youth.


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03 Aug 2006, 3:03 am

I probably would, with an extremely long life span I could do many many things. At the very least I could act as a force to change the world how I think it needs to be changed and I could easily gain skills and knowledge beyond that of what most people have. Besides, all that this entails is a reduction in sexual pleasure and as we all know that isn't the only pleasure, the other great feeling in life is revenge. :twisted:



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03 Aug 2006, 3:04 am

what's the point of living forever if you can't bang women of the future?


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03 Aug 2006, 6:09 am

Well, so far three votes and two differing replies that both make sense.

Not being able to bang women of the future would surely be torture but at least we'd be able to meet them. The thing is, would they even want to get it on with a 500 year old even if he looked youthull? Not that I'd be introducing myself as a 500 year old if I were.


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03 Aug 2006, 10:55 am

a1kemi wrote:
Well, so far three votes and two differing replies that both make sense.

Not being able to bang women of the future would surely be torture but at least we'd be able to meet them. The thing is, would they even want to get it on with a 500 year old even if he looked youthull? Not that I'd be introducing myself as a 500 year old if I were.

Well, whats the point of meeting them if you won't have any special feeling? The only reason to care about the women of the future is just libido. Also, if one were extremely long lived, they would probably do well to fake their death and get plastic surgery a few times, to be an oddity would probably not be a very good thing. One would either become famous or a medical experiment and neither are really that good.



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03 Aug 2006, 1:50 pm

I haven't felt much chemical attraction to the women that I have liked the most in my life.

My sexuality is primarily a distraction. Though I must admit that my primary motivating factor for wishing to persue some sort of a relationship would still exist even without a sexual drive, and that is seeking an end to isolation. Of course, ending that isolation would become much more difficult if I could not perform.



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03 Aug 2006, 3:03 pm

People are forgeting the first post: a loss of sexual desire. You wouldn't be attracted anymore, so I don't think you would care. I'm thinking about this... I'm a purist. Average lifespan for me.

Also, 500th post! W007!



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04 Aug 2006, 2:10 am

Yes, losing sexual desire would be a self ballancing problem. It would be barable as long as there wasn't a chastized or missing-out-on-something feeling. It would be easier to appreciate the more subtle feelings that exist in relationships when they're not drowned out by sexual desire and jealousy. Still, if there were an alternate option for a normal or short lifespan with an abundance of fulfilling relationships and everything I could ever want, I would choose it. But that isn't the card most of us are delt so in this hypothetical situation I'd still pick eternal youth over a functioning package any day.


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04 Aug 2006, 2:28 am

a1kemi wrote:
Yes, losing sexual desire would be a self ballancing problem. It would be barable as long as there wasn't a chastized or missing-out-on-something feeling. It would be easier to appreciate the more subtle feelings that exist in relationships when they're not drowned out by sexual desire and jealousy. Still, if there were an alternate option for a normal or short lifespan with an abundance of fulfilling relationships and everything I could ever want, I would choose it. But that isn't the card most of us are delt so in this hypothetical situation I'd still pick eternal youth over a functioning package any day.

Perhaps in some ways relationships would be more fulfilling without sexuality, but I think that would wane after a while, eventually as one sees how everything dies while they still live a bit of solipsism and distance from mankind would likely come in and eat away at the humanity of this being. Man was not designed to live and stay young for an eternity, and to watch everyone you have ever loved die before your eyes over and over again while you live longer and longer would be to some a curse. I would think that the longer you'd live the more disconnected from life you would become, after all, what is life to an immortal? Also, what are people to him? Are they his companions, who share life as his equals? Or his cattle, whom are increasingly inferior to this man's ever growing knowledge and wisdom, and are bound by forces that this immortal man will never have to feel? Immortality leads to superiority, superiority of skill, superiority of knowledge, and superiority of understanding. As this man continues through this unnaturally long life, he will eventually become less connected to the form of life that others live and over time even see himself as a god and the rest of mankind as his subjects. An immortal man eventually stops being a man, especially considering that the great mortal distraction that many are so obsessed with no longer holds his attention.



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04 Aug 2006, 2:49 am

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
...after all, what are these people to an immortal? Are they his companions, who share life as his equals? Or his cattle, whom are increasingly inferior...


YES, I'm so glad you mentioned that! A couple of years ago I realised how many powerfull people in this world treat the masses like cattle and just live off us. After speaking out recently against current examples of injustice and inequality I was shocked when the people around me (family mostly) viciously defended the very people who exploit them and everyone else. I came to realise that the majority of people realy do act like cattle, longing to be told what to do and how to think. I figured the only way to end these problems is for some Jesus like figure to "guide the sheep" and protect them from the wolves. But also to utterly destroy the clique of people who exploit humanity, as Jesus promised to do before he took a raincheck on his return. I guess an immortal without sexual interests could do this job well and find fulfillment in helping people.


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04 Aug 2006, 3:13 am

a1kemi wrote:
YES, I'm so glad you mentioned that! A couple of years ago I realised how many powerfull people in this world treat the masses like cattle and just live off us. After speaking out recently against current examples of injustice and inequality I was shocked when the people around me (family mostly) viciously defended the very people who exploit them and everyone else. I came to realise that the majority of people realy do act like cattle, longing to be told what to do and how to think. I figured the only way to end these problems is for some Jesus like figure to "guide the sheep" and protect them from the wolves. But also to utterly destroy the clique of people who exploit humanity, as Jesus promised to do before he took a raincheck on his return. I guess an immortal without sexual interests could do this job well and find fulfillment in helping people.

And you think that a creature of great power would care about his lessers? If they are his cattle then they will live and die to serve his needs like cattle live and die to serve ours. Just because this creature doesn't want sex doesn't mean he doesn't want power and control nor does it mean that rage no longer afflicts it, and it doesn't mean that he will care for that which lives. How can a creature so detached from life understand it or care for it? An immortal without sexual interests would probably find himself more and more unlike the people that he is surrounded by as his longevity will warp his mind and make him so unlike a person, I think he will stand above Napolean, Stalin, Hitler and he will purge more effectively, and rule without care for those who follow, he is not of the same race as he cannot die. I do not see him as a shepherd so much as the owner of the slaughter mill. He will be the chosen one, the absolute monarch whom Divine providence bid that we obey and we would be his play things to be experimented upon as is desired to learn and gain more. We have had many great and almost all-powerful leaders in the past and they have all lead to death and destruction, I do not see this one with even greater power and less human qualities to be an improvement.



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04 Aug 2006, 3:17 am

well, as far as lost feelings go, I can tell you something of that. As a child, I was quarrentined in hospital due to a severe influenza outbreak in my town. I strongly remember the intense feeling of loneliness, and have never felt it since.

Perhaps I rationalized it away, or its part of my Aspie nature, or something, but this allows me to state that you'd probably remember what you lost, but wouldnt necessarily miss it.

but then again, someday loneliness could hit me like a ton of bricks..



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05 Aug 2006, 12:12 am

Naw. I wouldn't want to live forever. Just because you have eternal youth it doesn't mean you'll find eternal happiness. You can still be hurt. And that's just if nobody kills you.



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05 Aug 2006, 10:38 am

It's an interesting topic. It made me think of a book I had read called "Mutants" which was a biological perspective on development and where it can go awry.

But towards the end of the book, this biologist stated that sciencists have found a negative correlation between longevity of life and sexual drive. So that on average a creature who is genetically determined to live longer will have less sexual drive and likely create fewer offspring.

Which makes sense. Shorter lives require more offspring to continue the genetics more successfully. So longer lives probably require the opposite so the population is kept more balanced and doesn't overrun the environment.

Not a perfect balance as we humans have managed to show. But a correlation nonetheless.