Do you think one can "grow out" of Asperger's Synd

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My symptoms at age 30 are not nearly as pronounced as when I was a teenager and younger, and my psychologist, one who specializing in AS and ASD, is already questioning the very, very thorough diagnosis done by a team of at least 4 different doctors (a team of about 7 different people) done when I was a teenager. He said most of the tests are irrelevant *now* due to what they found was ineffective to diagnose something like High-Functioning Asperger's Syndrome. Overall, I heard it's rather difficult to diagnose adults with HF-AS/HF-ASD.

As far as treatment is concerned, this psychologist doesn't seem as concerned with a diagnosis then treating the symptoms. I think he's more concerned about the diagnosis in a scientific way, to make sure it "fits". So far in about 3 sessions going over a bunch of data he thinks I have Bi-Polar Disorder (Type 2). Now I've had therapists and psychiatrists think this in the past, and both before and after my AS diagnosis I also had Bi-Polar as a diagnosis when I was a teenager. Currently that's not the case.

I think Panic Disorder along with a Sleep Disorder can sometimes look like Bi-Polar Type 2. I hope I can thoroughly go over this with my psychologist so he understands I do not have hypomania, I have anxiety. There's a difference. In a layman's explanation, the two can sound very similar if not identical when it comes to Type 2 which accepts "milder" forms of mania (hypomania). Also, no matter what he says people use the term "Bi-Polar" for, both the DSM and WHO lists this as a Depressive disorder, and I do not get depressed while off medication. (Not on. Off.)

Anxiety is a common symptom of Bi-Polar Disorder, but AFAIK, there needs to be a Depressive Disorder. Sure, I get depressed about how I can't go hang out like everyone else due to social anxiety, or when I think about my not-so-successful life (on SSDI currently), but I don't think that goes anywhere near the realm of a "disorder". There were times I had greater depressions where even suicidal thoughts popped up, but these were *always* grouped with anti-depressants (especially SSRIs). Nowadays I can get seriously depressed/irrational on anti-depressants within days of taking them. Even a TCA can cause this. While I haven't tried a placebo test, for the past few years I have been focusing on drug therapy above the failed psychotherapy options. I wanted to see how far drug therapy could go, as it's worked well in the past, just not recently; even with the same exact drugs. I honestly thought drug therapy could really reduce my symptoms, from the bottom of my heart, and I really wanted it to. So now I'm going to try more alternative therapy like CBT and even Hypnotherapy.

I guess I found it a little off-putting to hear the sentence, "Well maybe you grew out of it." I don't think this doctor of behavioral science really thinks one can grow out of AS, but just that sentence seems to deny all the hardships I've had in the past trying to teach myself things and practice things that seem natural to other people.

Of course your symptoms aren't as pronounced as when you were a teenager. You've had a long time to learn how to deal with them.

I think AS actually becomes more developed as you get older. Not only do you have the condition, but you've developed an entire array of behaviors and mindsets to deal with it.

Yeah I think one can grow out of it. Saying you never had it in the first place because you outgrew it is like saying I never had a speech delay to began with since I outgrew it or that I never had hearing loss to begin with since I got my hearing back or saying someone never suffered problems from child abuse just because they grew out of it too. Or else I was just an idiot growing up and a brat and selfish person and stubborn and someone who chose to have anxiety to get her way and manipulate people around her.

Saying you can outgrow autism is like saying you can outgrow dyslexia or blindness or a club foot. Its embedded in the way your brain is wired, it doesn't go away. Its not a chemical imbalance that can be tipped the other way by medication and even Behavioral Therapy can only force you to pretend to be like everyone else, it doesn't change the way you think and feel. You certainly learn ways of coping with the handicaps over many years of dealing with them every day, but they do not disappear. If AS is your true condition, you will experience a peak in your abilities to function with apparent normality between ages 25 to 35 roughly, and then (if feedback from this forum and personal experience are reliable indicators), you will likely experience a gradual decline, with a lot of the autistic issues that plagued you as a child and teen again becoming somewhat overwhelming. All that assuming there was not a misdiagnosis in the first place, but the professionals can argue the nuances of the label all they like, only you know what issues have handicapped you most severely.

The idea that your brain magically reconfigures its neural pathways over time to make you think and perceive just like everyone else, when that's not the way you were born, is pie in the sky. Long before I knew what AS was, I reached a point in my life during which I thought for a few years I was finally assimilating and functioning pretty much like everyone else my age, but the NTs around me knew better. They still discriminated against me for being different and 'odd', and whispered about me behind my back, and my executive function shortcomings still kept me from ever really getting on top of life's bigger, more long-term problems and taking any real control. I held onto that illusion of normality for more than a decade, but looking back now, I think I knew deep down the whole time that, as always, I was only pretending I had my sh*t together, and there was never any real chance I was going to be able to maintain that facade forever.

Actually some people have said they have outgrown dyslexia because they had learned to read and write so well. Just like my mom said I outgrew dyspraxia and sensory processing disorder.

I don't believe they ever outgrow it, though. My brother is profoundly dyslexic. He got heaps of tutors and tons of parental help. He became pretty high-functioning, did well in education, reads lots and now spells almost perfectly. But there are still telltale signs. He'll 'mispell' two-letter words like "OK" or "BO". He'll spell long words right, but have trouble with "the". I think you learn to cope.

It's not outgrowing so much as accumulating experience of what works and what doesn't.

The only disadvantage of collecting the sort of mental checklists that support "doing better" is that most of their prescriptions are negative - "Never do that!", "Don't do this!", and so forth; and that it's too easy to wind up with differing prescriptions from different lists.

That's the worst. It's like if someone teaching you to walk a tightrope just kept repeating "don't fall", that would work, right? You could easily succeed in this advice by not taking a step on the tightrope in the first place.

So, that's basically what most NT advice transulates to:

Don't do anything that might be seen as weird or awkward
Anything you do is often seen as weird an awkward

Therefore, don't do anything.

Your ability to take social liberties is equal to how much backlash you can handle

Whew. I would also be extremely suspicious of that psychologist now messing around with your diagnosis. He says his focus is on treating symptoms, but he is actually unable to do that without first categorizing ... and yes, that is virtually impossible to do with an autistic adult already long-exposed to situations and circumstances far beyond the environment of an initial, childhood diagnosis.


My own experience is somewhat similar, and you are seeing things clearly there, I believe.


All the "guessing" and/or "maybe" stuff seems to me to never completely end, but at least now you are able to do a bit of self-advocacy.

Hang in there!

You can't cure it but you can treat it. There's a reason they have behavior therapy for autistic people. Unfortunately, I wasn't diagnosed until fairly recently (I'm 27), and my psychologist said that recognizing it sooner would have made life easier for me. (My family and others around me have been noticing symptoms in me since childhood, but I was high functioning enough for them not to drag me into therapy until my late teens.)

I think this so-called diagnosis gets too much attention.

Considering that just about anybody on this entire planet can meet the criteria of AS at any given point during their life-time. Take any random person out of the world-population, put them under 24/7 surveillance for only a couple of months, and I guarantee you that these «behaviourial» traits will be seen in any individual.

Furthermore, behaviourial-characteristics are primarily due to environment, and even lesser-known, behaviourial-influences can also come from the unseen realms of consciousness (different types of spirit-possession if you may). The important thing is to simply strive to be a peaceful individual. Absolute-Pacifism is The Way.

The only real mental-disease in this universe is when an individual loses control of their mental-faculties to become negative towards others in their behaviours (a badge or a uniform or an official position does not negate the fact that it`s still a mental-disturbance from sinister consciousness).

I can give you my references for why I make these statements if you wish but you'll need to prepare yourself for a few literal thousand hours worth of reading and self-examination. I consider dogmatism to be a symptom of a mental-disease as my signature-quote may imply/indicate.

Looking forward to hearing more!

Welcome to WP.

I've grown accustomed to my abilities.

As long as you can look at what you're doing, what you've done, and find out the "triggers", things can be adjusted.

By no means am I normal. Thank goodness! However, I know that when my body is tired, with not enough sleep or with a cold or something like that, my "symptoms" are heightened. I know that it's best to 1. warn those close to me that I'm a little on edge and 2. take a break from being around people or other "triggers" that will cause me to act out.

I revel in my oddness. I prefer to be the person who observes from the corner in a large crowd. I never feel like I'm being left out, only because I feel like I'm there, but at a safe distance. That's just how I am, and I've accepted it. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. If someone comes up to me to talk, that's fine...because that means that they WANT to talk to me. Mindless mingling is painful.

As for sleep issues, I find taking melatonin a wonder! The first couple times it gave me REALLY weird dreams, but no big deal now. Also, it's a natural thing, so no "drugs" need to be prescribed.

I HAVE taken "drugs"....Advil. Maybe it's just my own placebo, but I have taken an Advil gelcap or two when I'm in a situation that needs me to be more relaxed....because when I tense up, I get a little nutty (see "body is tired" above").

Long answer to the question. Not really "grow out of" Aspergers symptoms, but able to adjust to situations. If all else fails, leave the room and be by yourself. It's ok.

Very well...I suppose it started when I first started putting my paradigms (beliefs-systems) at the time to the test... probably my first «independent» break from dogmatism was when I had been in my 3rd or 4th year of reading Neo-Tech literature. Before that, I broke away from various religious and anti-religious beliefs, but perhaps the most-significant change came about when I read the reported information originating from the Frederick Myers Cross-Correspondences (I am still looking to obtain the full transcripts though).

I have gone through significant changes in paradigm-shift and cognitive-dissonance throughout my life-time, and when I say significant, I should probably captialise it to say SIGNIFICANT changes. I used to believe in taking a position but, due to my active pursuit of reading diametrically opposed material to what-ever my paradigm-construct was at the time, for the purpose of trying to understand the psychology behind the beliefs and behaviours of those whom I used to view as philosophical/rational-opponents, I eventually came to the realisation that there are NO fixed «positions» with a PURE 100% accuracy (most-certainly NOT amongst the «mainstream»).

Let me go back and describe my Neo-Tech experience(s). I grew up around people who had somewhat of a bible-belt mentality, but at the same time, they always flew off their handle, and had this habit of always getting into an argument for the sake of argument, and that I was somehow always the fault of their problems (and they were somehow never at fault for their problems). I eventually came across anti-Christian material, and turned hard-nosed Atheist on them, and took every chance I got to describe how «stupid» they must have been to believe such nonsense.

This was even further backed up by the logical-writings that I had found in Neo-Tech. Mysticism was defined as a «stupidity disease» that had to be eradicated through Neo-Think. Outflanking those «loser mentalities» who never wanted to take responsibility for their own problems but instead would create problems where none existed then blame it on others. I felt like the Gallileo Gallilei that they feared. I may not have been as well book-learned at a time as the Neo-Cheaters (i.e.: losers who pointedly avoid responsibility when something goes wrong but seem to be very quick to take credit for any successes), however, they feared me in the same manner that the flat-earthers back in the day feared Gallileo.

Our helio-centric thought-processes were superiour to their limited geo-centric thought-processes, and they knew it and we knew it and they felt fear, and as any control-freaks, you can be rest-assured that control-freaks tend to get «freaked out» when someone else comes into the picture who might know more than what they know within their limited paradigms. Neo-Tech became my most-cherished and upheld reference source at the time...I would debate that I still have retained a lot of very valuable knowledge from Neo-Tech Publishing, however, when I came across the section about which books to read and which books were harmful, I had not given it much thought. I did notice subtle commands/suggestions to not even look at the other books at all.

Yet, that conflicted with the Bubble-Think that Neo-Tech taught, for bubble-think is where you learn everything that your intellectual-opponent knows as well as having the knowledge that they do not. That way, when you learn everything that your intellectual-rival knows as well as being intellectually equipped with knowledge that is outside of their bubble of thinking, you are supposed to be able to predict how they will behave to certain things due to your ability to view their bubble of knowledge from outside of their paradigm. Why, I asked myself, should those books be avoided altogether, for would it not be to our advantage to know what those other people know in order to learn how to deal with their behaviours ?

...then came the real crux... I remember reading how, when it came to your typical religionist, that the person supporting their religion would jump and cling at any chance to any material or supposèd evidence that supported their position, yet, I saw this exact same behaviour from the Neo-Tech literature when it came to «proving» that competing beliefs were invalid. When I watched «America: World Police» ...partly due to Neo-Tech influence at the time, I remember one of the scenes where one of the puppet-actors said to one of the others about the Fahrenheit 911 Movie/Documentary. What-ever his name was said: « Don't watch it! It's full of nonsense! »

Similarly, Neo-Tech described certain books and subject-categories as being full of nonsense, and I, too, also regarded that people who believed in those things to be incredibly deficient in their intellectual-levels for believing such things. I had to find this out for myself. I wanted to see for myself, due to the fact that many of the authors were very highly educated individuals, doctors and professors, some with multiple degrees in multiple disciplines from multiple universities, yet what could possibly be so convincing about those books that would make them believe in something as ridiculous as the para-normal ?

That is probably where my true journey to discovery began...within, I found a collection of impressive anecdotal-stories, and even more impressive than that, various tests and experiments that the researchers of such anomalous phenomenae did in order to try and debunk and disprove that such phenomenae could be a reality. Many of the experimental-procedures were very well-designed to eliminate the possibility of fraud or trickery, and yet, the discoveries were astounding enough to turn many of those researchers, once skeptics and disbelieves themselves, into believers that such phenomenon exists, but it didn't turn out to be so black and white as many people seem to be conditioned to believe. They were also very thorough in their research to address a lot of skeptical-objections.

...then...I went to read the skeptic-literature which often heavily denounced the works of the parapsychological-researchers. Something was suspicious. The skeptical-literatures made several claims that were already negated in detail by the literature of the researchers. I used to be a skeptic myself. Extremist-skeptic if you may. The change in me didn't come until after I started trying to understand how my intellectual-opponents (at the time; I don't regard anybody as any kind of opponent today to be defeated but rather...I now regard everybody as a spiritual brother and sister of whom many still seem to be mentally trapped by the gripping disease of dogmatic-aggression)...could possibly have lost their reasoning faculties. I originally set out to read the para-normal literature in order to show these people where they were incorrect, but instead, I found that the paranormal-researchers' methods for debunking and detecting fraud turned out to be far more sophisticated than even that of the skeptics and debunkers themselves !

I started becoming more and more empirical... I honestly wouldn't have it any other way. Thorough empiricism is truly the best scientific method I have ever put to the test...Frederick Myers was such an individual (one of the founders of the Society for Psychical Research as well as the author of Human Personality and its Survival of Bodily Death). Towards the end of Ian Currie's book - You Cannot Die: The Incredible Findings of a Century of Research on Death - the purpose of life was described through the communications of Frederick Myers from the afterlife. Life was described to have two main purposes: They are to learn as much as we can and to be able to learn to love and accept everybody and everything, unconditionally, for whom and what they are.

I did extensive reading and research afterwards on NDEs and came across the NDE of Daniel Rosenblit. Within his writings, I had learned, that intentional pursuit of subjecting ourselves to suffering is the fast-track to that of which is called Salvation. I put it to the test, and granted, most (perhaps all) people seem to think that you are insane and have lost your marbles if you willingly find enjoyment in wanting to be made to suffer, but for the most part, I noticed that field-testing such a thing often resulted in even the most-aggressive of persons becoming less willing or even unwilling to force things upon you (probably the most-classic case I have gotten in response thus far: «You've already humiliated yourself pretty thoroughly. I don't think I could possibly humiliate you any further.»).

...then, from deriving what I thought was the most-important part of his writings, was that there was to be a new Holy Book to replace the Old and New Testaments. A Truth Testament so to speak...I looked it up to see if anybody had started writing such a book... I came across The Testament of Truth for which I have spent between 300-350 hours worth of reading thus far over the last year and a half... within its scriptures... I found a lot of writings that had a rather «thorough vision» of the spirit-world for lack of better description. I have also put much of its material into field-testing. The background of having read through Dr. Carl Wicklands book - 30 Years Among the Dead - gave me a firmer scientific basis for accepting The Testament of Truth as a truth document about the spirit-world.

Much of the suggestions/recommendations and descriptions as to mental-health, its causes, and the solutions also seem to align very closely with that of which is recommended in the ZeitGeist documentaries. I often refer to the Milgram Shock-Experiments (and tell people to look it up for themselves) when I try to describe and explain that high intellectual-levels are NOT immunities to barbaric behaviours of atrocious acts (and also I state the fact that Hitler had an extremely high IQ but the Nazi-supporters supported him like a cult who elevated him into god-ship [this phenomenon still goes on to this very day]).

I still study human mental-constructs and paradigms, even to this very day, for I find the research on what motivates people to behave in certain ways and believe certain things to be absolutely fascinating. Also, another thing that aligns between both the Cross-Correspondences of Frederick Myers and the writings of Terence Malaher's Testament of Truth documents are that we experience everything that we cause others to experience, and if not during this life-time, then during a future life-time.

Although I haven't yet obtained the entire transcripts of the Cross-Correspondences, from its communications with highly intelligent minds who've left posthumous works in our physical earth-world, they described that the earth is like a training system, and that we remain in a wheel of reincarnation (and thus suffering) for as long as we have not yet learned to love and accept everybody and everything for whom and what they are. I contacted Terence about reincarnation and whether it's required to be done in an earth-life if there are still significant karmic-debts outsnading: His response was that it is not a necessity since our payment of suffering through our negative 'karma' continues on continuously even in the after-life for as long as we are outside of the Pure Light (heaven).

Also, that NONE can enter therein (Pure Light), unless there is ZERO Dark-Energy (i.e.: sin) within. Life is described in the writings of Terence as being the consciousness of our Eternal Creator of All (who is ALSO our Eternal Destroyer of All - i.e.: God is also the Devil [and thus the «secret identity» of Satan/Anti-Christ is revealed in these end-times to be none other than God itself]). The «thoughts» that flow into our minds has a source. That source is the energy of God which has a DUAL-nature. The difference between the person of mental-disturbance and the person of sanity/rationality is that the insane/mental-disturbed person's thoughts are controlled/inspired by the Dark-Energy of God (Satan/Devil/Shetani/Shiva/Baal/etc). The dark is what controls all demons who were themselves once men long ago.

The writings of Terence also allude to the same/similar warnings that were made in the New Testament about how mercenaries, for thirty pieces of silver as a wage, sell their souls unto The Devil for an entire Eternity or two of Eternities and a day. Modern-day mercenaries are what we might know of as being policemen and military. For they are paid to commit daily acts that would categorise any of the rest of us as criminals (i.e.: when you are paid to commit crimes you are basically a mercenary). That selling one's soul unto Satan for an Eternity or two of Eternities is not worth the few meager earthly riches paid during a mere earth-life.

The formula for a PERMANENT surcease from suffering is to have absolutely NO negative karmic debt nor energy of sin within our souls (and spiritual-dues [i.e.: karma] can come from prior pre-birth life-times). Once we are CLEAR of ANY and ALL negative spiritual-debt, `tis then and ONLY then that God becomes our protector, such that not even an axe-wielding madman would ever be inspired to harm a hair on our heads...even if he is making a bloody mess out of all of the surrounding people.

Also, the ENTIRE purpose as to WHY Jesus was here around two millenia ago has NAUGHT to do with «praising» him nor «elevating him into god-ship» but it DOES have EVERYTHING to do with educating and teaching humanity that humans MUST learn to FORGIVE. That is of course, the ones who wish for salvation, and eventual permanent surcease from suffering, otherwise...suffering continues on and on and on in perpetuity without end (and FEW will follow the road of Absolute-Pacifism and forgiveness and find their way through the Gates of Promise - probably one of the major reasons why people give up on believing in the existence of a heaven).

Explained more clearly, say that someone steals an egg for me one day, but rather than forgive that individual, I go and cut off that person's hand in revenge. What just happened ? I just incurred a negative karmic-debt to have my OWN hand cut off in MY future or other similar future deprivation, including ALL of the COLLATERAL-damage that results, but here's where it gets truly Devilish, for that egg would NOT have been stolen from me IF I did NOT have a spiritual-debt to be stolen from in the first instance. Many people think that being a tax-payer makes them a good person, however, a tax-payer only means that the individual is a funder of mercenary wages...thus...they incur heavy spiritual-penalties as a result.

I am sorry...I think this is probably too much to be absorbed in a single day for anyone reading this so I`ll cut it off here for now and clarify anything later or better yet you could just read through the reference materials for yourself that I had mentioned so that you can see the writings for yourself rather than rely on my hearsay (this little bit I had written is probably not enough to completely clarify everything here accurately anyway). And if you don`t know where to begin I might recommend starting out with Dr. Carl Wickland's book: 30 Years Among the Dead. For a non-PDF-version.

Circumstances drove me to begin doing that in my early 30s ...


I "finally" became aware of that in about my mid-40s, and I yet remain cautious about not "landing" even there.


My actual course was different, yet the principles I still follow are identical.


Understood.


Yes.


Apart from that, we are actually nearly useless to others.


He taught much more than just forgiveness, but yes, we agree.


... and that is why we have been given lifetimes, eh?!

Acknowledged. Each and every time I thought that I had finally learned pure-truth, I had discovered, that I always ended up coming across material/evidence which ended up forcing me to re-consider otherwise. Probably the most-important lesson, gleaned from Frederick Myers of the Cross-Correspondences, indicates that we must not cling to any kind of rigid mental-constructs, whether they be religious, scientific, political, etc. Otherwise we will be completely unprepared for being able to adjust to the future life-existences that are so different from what we know in the physical-realm that there are «no earth-life equivalent metaphors available to be able to describe their existences.»


Well, yes, but the primary purpose was that we must be the ones to forgive, even if we're being crucified, and it was demonstrated by example the last time Terence visited as the Jesus avatar in the previous (but your typical orthodox/non-thinker will be VERY quick to start calling you mentally ill for saying that Jesus is now Terence despite the fact that your IQ is FAR above the average person).

When I deal with dogmatic-Christians, I usually refer them to John 21:25, and explain to them that, just because it`s not necessarily found in the bible old or new (testaments), does not necessarily mean that it does not «come from God» to try and get them to be more open/receptive to information that`s not necessarily within the bible itself. Ain`t empiricism great…being empirical seems to eventually make you more knowledge-able about a subject than even people who think that they`re experts in their subject.


The difference between the X-C & TM's TToT is that in TToT, all collateral-suffering is accounted for, even via what our servants do unto others (the police and military and politicians are considered servants of tax-payers and people who actively vote for another mere mortal to head god-ship over the lives of everyone). This also applies to the flip-side, that joy is also received in accordance, but only if we or our servants have done similar good unto others before.

I will add something that may be of interest: The great debate of «You Are Saved by Grace And Not Works» versus «Faith Without Works is Dead» | Let me clarify what I have learned to be the most-accurate context behind what those phrases mean...

[Context Explained] You Are Saved by Grace And Not Works: A positive act unto others does NOT negate a negative act that has been done unto another. Working all the charity in the world will still NOT negate the suffering dues that must be Rendered Unto God. ONLY when we FORGIVE others of their transgressions are we THEN saved from that same negative karmic-due for as long as we do not re-incur the same due of suffering via revenge.

[Context Explained] Faith Without Works is Dead: Many people «pray» for miracles, and perhaps for others to help them, but «prayer» actually does naught to change one's destiny or that of another. A «blessing» is ONLY received by those who have done the «work» necessary to be on the receiving end of beneficience or positive tribute. This can come in the form of doing charity for others, helping another when their luck is down, etc. A person who helps one that has been stranded will also be helped out in the future in a similar manner if ever stranded (but the Energy of God can manifest in any manner and number of ways to return the similar feelings and emotions and experiences of the positive feelings felt by the individual/s who was/were helped).


I meant for the average reader, but since you seem to be quick to absorb content, I have thus continued a bit more here for the benefit of anybody who`s patient enough to read everything.
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Now to clarify another point I made…thoughts originate from realms unseen. Traditional/Orthodox Science has identified that all things are made of Matter. Quantum-Physics/Mechanics has identified that all Matter is made of Energies. A further theory based on extensive research suggests that all Energies are made of vibrating strings. I will add further to that, according to the accumulation of my own research, that all Energies are indeed of a Vibrational-Frequency (Terence also has written that each realm/universe/dimension/existence has its own Vibration of Consciousness). The vibrational-level is a reflection of a level of consciousness. That consciousness represents the dual-energy of what Jesus/Terence refer to as God/Allah/Mungu/Creator.

What is this «Breath of Life» that some of us may have read about from various sources ? The thought-flow into our minds originates from this conscious-vibration, and there are two aspects, one being Dark/Sinister, the other being Light/Benign. The conscious Light-Energy of God is what inspires us with creativity. The conscious Dark-Energy of God is what controls us with destructive negativity. The flow of these conscious-energies is what «breathes life» into that of which we call an existence.

Upon our first creation, each of us are told, that the Dark-Energy is forbidden, and that we must not use it in our interaction with others. From the vantage-point of a spirit in the pure-realm, when they see our existence, they do not see our physical-forms, but only the amount of «Negative Energy» that covers our Inner-Light, and that «Negative Energy» reveals the acts that we have committed upon others.

Thus, when a person acts in a negative manner towards another, that person is being controlled to a greater or lesser degree by dark/demonic/malignant-forces, whom are also themselves controlled by even darker spirits that they themselves cannot see, whom are all ultimately controlled by the Ultimate-Deceiver of All (Satan/God).

The solution given via Terence is for humanity to learn to strengthen their minds against negative thought-processes. For, when thoughts of «killing» or «suicide» or «revenge» revolve about in one's mind all day, then the individual is playing with a VERY DANGEROUS psychological-fire, for which the fire, when allowed to burn and burn within the mentality, eventually (metaphorically) catches aflame upon the individual, and then consumes and controls the individual's activities.

Punishment must cease and understanding of their condition must be the way. Medications do NAUGHT to «cure» the ROOT-cause of mental-illness which is NOT due to a purely bio-chemical-process but IS due to a LACK of being educated and insufficient mental/psychological-programming to re-direct and CONTROL one's own thoughts to NOT wander off into the darkness (domain of negative conscious-energies). Attempting to cure a mental-condition via drug-use is like attempting to fix the erroneous programming of software on a computer by replacing the hardware-components (i.e.: useless efforts, and yes, BILLIONS of dollars ARE in fact wasted on such 'research' programs that approach the cure in exactly that entirely incorrect manner).

Medication will only «mask» symptoms, but even then, medications also have what is called a «Decline Effect» that has been statistically documented in many scientific-experiments (and not just on medicine but experiments of many other phenomena). Too bad there are only a handful few people on this earth who seem to realise this...