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29 Aug 2006, 10:58 pm

What are your thoughts on this issue? I vote for decriminilization.


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29 Aug 2006, 11:11 pm

Legalization.

Although it would seriously hurt the petrochemical/synthetic fibre/pharmaceutical industries so unfortunately it wont be happening for the foreseeable future.



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29 Aug 2006, 11:49 pm

I believe it will happen soon. Are you aware that marijuana was an important contribution to the renaissance era? Source=Documentary"The magic weed - history of cannibas sativa"


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29 Aug 2006, 11:58 pm

I was against it for a long time, but now I'm in favor of the government taking control of the marijuana racket, sort of how they replaced the Numbers game with the Lottery back in the prohibition era, which completely wiped out Numbers.

Legalizing marijuana won't wipe out potheads, of course, but it might make a huge dent in the drug trade and profitibility thereof. Many people who won't touch the harder stuff will gladly smoke a blunt.



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30 Aug 2006, 1:02 am

VesicaPisces wrote:
I believe it will happen soon. Are you aware that marijuana was an important contribution to the renaissance era? Source=Documentary"The magic weed - history of cannibas sativa"


Yep, it was the single most important plant for several thousand years, right up until DuPont patented the highly inferior nylon.

Have you seen 'Hemp Revolution'?

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"The Hemp Revolution tells the amazing and little known story of the Hemp plant. Hemp, probably the first plant ever to be cultivated, was among the world's largest agricultural crops until the 1800's.

This feature documentary explores the plant's facinating history, it's thousands of uses, the economic and cultural forces behind its prohibition, and its modern potential to solve major environmental problems.

Hemp, together with bio-technologies presented in this film, offer a visionary yet practical solutions that could help solve many of our current environmental problems including energy, medicine, food and clothing, etc.

Featuring top scientists, academics and professionals from around the world"


Part 1/3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZm34fATf30



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30 Aug 2006, 1:14 am

Richard Feynman was a smoker according to what I have read.

"The application of quantum mechanics to fields rather than single particles, resulting in what are known as quantum field theories, began in 1927. Early contributors included Dirac, Wolfgang Pauli, Weisskopf, and Jordan. This line of research culminated in the 1940s in the quantum electrodynamics (QED) of Richard Feynman, Freeman Dyson, Julian Schwinger, and Sin-Itiro Tomonaga, for which Feynman, Schwinger and Tomonaga received the 1965 Nobel Prize in Physics. QED, a quantum theory of electrons, positrons, and the electromagnetic field, was the first satisfactory quantum description of a physical field and of the creation and annihilation of quantum particles."


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30 Aug 2006, 1:22 am

Legalize psychadelics.



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30 Aug 2006, 1:42 am

When it comes to Psychedlics i am in the middle, they can be extremely beneficial, or extremely detrimental. If they were decriminalized I think that they should only be taken in a controlled environment with trained professionals. Some people come back with astounding insight. Others never return.


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30 Aug 2006, 6:44 am

I think most drugs ought to be free and available for all adult, menthal healthy people. I consider most aspies menthal healthy, then AS is a state of mind, not a disease. Thomas Jefferson was an opium cultivator, by the way.



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30 Aug 2006, 9:22 pm

Yes I say if you can grow it in your backyard it should be legal to grow and use for your own consumption I'd put magic mushrooms in that catagory also


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30 Aug 2006, 10:13 pm

Decriminalize. The stuff's so much safer than alcohol and really, the links with schizophrenia for the most part are cause and effect getting switched (ie. self-medication not panning out). Yeah, it could be that it may lower some people's natural antipsychotic levels via just pushing the bodies need to produce it down, it seems plausible, but still those people would know who they were probably and not like it as much - things that tend not to do well for your chemistry tend to feel like a bad fit and not give you much fun. At least people don't start throwing haymakers at eachother in coffeeshops or crash into the dividers on the highway.



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30 Aug 2006, 10:19 pm

VesicaPisces wrote:
When it comes to Psychedlics i am in the middle, they can be extremely beneficial, or extremely detrimental. If they were decriminalized I think that they should only be taken in a controlled environment with trained professionals. Some people come back with astounding insight. Others never return.


I agree, being a lighweight on weed just has a person sitting in the corner twitching or starting to say things and trailing off. Tripping's one of those things where a person has to be pretty well grounded and for the risk that someone isn't its probably best to have someone there who can give them a niacin shot if they really can't help taking it all for reality. Then again though I think with respect to boomers though, those could probably have some degree of general legalization since they're all body-buzz mostly.



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30 Aug 2006, 10:36 pm

I think it should be legal for all. Mandatory for some. Kidding on that last bit.



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31 Aug 2006, 11:00 am

Does it not seem odd that with all this concensus it is still prohibited? It is my opinion that the pharmaceutical industry is definitely acruing a profit from this state of things. Not only from their substitutions but from urinalysis as well. If I were a pharmaceutical company I know Id own a few toxicology labs.


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31 Aug 2006, 12:34 pm

VesicaPisces wrote:
Does it not seem odd that with all this concensus it is still prohibited? It is my opinion that the pharmaceutical industry is definitely acruing a profit from this state of things. Not only from their substitutions but from urinalysis as well. If I were a pharmaceutical company I know Id own a few toxicology labs.


It's not so much the pharmaceutical companies but law enforcement which depends greatly on the money from "The War on Drugs" either in funding from the government or from taking assets from dealers


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31 Aug 2006, 2:20 pm

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VesicaPisces wrote:
Does it not seem odd that with all this concensus it is still prohibited? It is my opinion that the pharmaceutical industry is definitely acruing a profit from this state of things. Not only from their substitutions but from urinalysis as well. If I were a pharmaceutical company I know Id own a few toxicology labs.


It's not so much the pharmaceutical companies but law enforcement which depends greatly on the money from "The War on Drugs" either in funding from the government or from taking assets from dealers


Money does not disappear, "it moves", and marijuana can be taxed just like alcohol and tobacco. By decriminilization, efforts can be focused elsewhere.


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