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10 Aug 2011, 11:33 am

and broke the frame my bachelors was in.

You may ask what I gained by doing this. Well, they are completely worthless, and I needed to let out some rage without cutting myself again.



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10 Aug 2011, 11:45 am

What happened?



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10 Aug 2011, 2:04 pm

Yikes. Seems like you were screwed by higher education like many of my other peers are finding out. May I ask what the Bachelor's subject it was?



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10 Aug 2011, 6:58 pm

I have a worthless bachelors and masters in poli-sci with a 3.6 and 3.7 GPA respectively, but they are shredded now. They are valuable only as toilet paper.



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10 Aug 2011, 7:00 pm

?????

Edit: How are they worthless?



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10 Aug 2011, 8:10 pm

This sounds really sad to destroy your own degree. Why do you say your Bachelor's degree in Poli-Sci is completely worthless? Are you really having difficulties getting jobs with that degree?



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11 Aug 2011, 3:43 am

tcorrielus wrote:
This sounds really sad to destroy your own degree.

There are a lot of videos on YouTube of people destroying their degrees (usually by burning them). Most people these days (like SadAspy and myself) end up wasting 4 or more years and thousands of dollars just to end up with nothing in return.



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11 Aug 2011, 9:31 am

This makes me wonder if college is the right place for me to be?


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11 Aug 2011, 12:38 pm

Cyanide wrote:
tcorrielus wrote:
This sounds really sad to destroy your own degree.

There are a lot of videos on YouTube of people destroying their degrees (usually by burning them). Most people these days (like SadAspy and myself) end up wasting 4 or more years and thousands of dollars just to end up with nothing in return.


I had a scholarship (undergrad) and assistantship (grad school), so I wasted little to nothing in money, but I sure did waste time and effort.

Employers just want high school dropouts who have "experience." f**k the American economy (I don't know for sure that other countries are different, but I keep hearing they are).



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11 Aug 2011, 4:31 pm

I don't know if I will even be able to handle a job--but with all the work I am putting into my degree, I will certainly be framing that diploma and hanging it on my wall. The expansion of the mind and the increase in knowledge is quite a reward in itself.


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12 Aug 2011, 9:36 pm

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This makes me wonder if college is the right place for me to be?


Depends on what major you are in. Humanities, I would say college is not worth it. For people in science and engineering, I would say it is worth it.



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12 Aug 2011, 10:16 pm

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Depends on what major you are in. Humanities, I would say college is not worth it.


I'm in the Humanities and am quite enjoying my degree...I think I'll be able to get a job as well, but I am going to grad school.


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12 Aug 2011, 11:52 pm

SadAspy wrote:
Cyanide wrote:
tcorrielus wrote:
This sounds really sad to destroy your own degree.

There are a lot of videos on YouTube of people destroying their degrees (usually by burning them). Most people these days (like SadAspy and myself) end up wasting 4 or more years and thousands of dollars just to end up with nothing in return.


I had a scholarship (undergrad) and assistantship (grad school), so I wasted little to nothing in money, but I sure did waste time and effort.

Employers just want high school dropouts who have "experience." f**k the American economy (I don't know for sure that other countries are different, but I keep hearing they are).


Experience and who you know matters more in the real world. now that you've left the fairy tale world of theory, I hope you realize that its always been this way.

You will leave college expecting a job that was never there and probably won't be there in the future. If that high school dropout can talk to people, reason with people, and service those people better then you can, give a little respect or go back to that jobless field you specialized in. If you want to specialize in knowledge that has no vocational demand, then do it for the fun of learning.


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13 Aug 2011, 10:29 am

MarketAndChurch wrote:
SadAspy wrote:
Cyanide wrote:
tcorrielus wrote:
This sounds really sad to destroy your own degree.

There are a lot of videos on YouTube of people destroying their degrees (usually by burning them). Most people these days (like SadAspy and myself) end up wasting 4 or more years and thousands of dollars just to end up with nothing in return.


I had a scholarship (undergrad) and assistantship (grad school), so I wasted little to nothing in money, but I sure did waste time and effort.

Employers just want high school dropouts who have "experience." f**k the American economy (I don't know for sure that other countries are different, but I keep hearing they are).


Experience and who you know matters more in the real world. now that you've left the fairy tale world of theory, I hope you realize that its always been this way.

You will leave college expecting a job that was never there and probably won't be there in the future. If that high school dropout can talk to people, reason with people, and service those people better then you can, give a little respect or go back to that jobless field you specialized in. If you want to specialize in knowledge that has no vocational demand, then do it for the fun of learning.


It's more so the U.S. When I speak to people in Europe (both in real life and on-line), they are shocked that I can't find something with my education/grades/awards. They insist that I would have a job with an above average income over there.

But the U.S. has to do things ass backwards.



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13 Aug 2011, 2:53 pm

SadAspy wrote:
Cyanide wrote:
tcorrielus wrote:
This sounds really sad to destroy your own degree.

There are a lot of videos on YouTube of people destroying their degrees (usually by burning them). Most people these days (like SadAspy and myself) end up wasting 4 or more years and thousands of dollars just to end up with nothing in return.


I had a scholarship (undergrad) and assistantship (grad school), so I wasted little to nothing in money, but I sure did waste time and effort.

Employers just want high school dropouts who have "experience." f**k the American economy (I don't know for sure that other countries are different, but I keep hearing they are).


That's because degrees are not a guarantee of competence anymore. It really sucks for those who actually earned their degree, but that's how it is...


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14 Aug 2011, 12:54 am

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That's because degrees are not a guarantee of competence anymore. It really sucks for those who actually earned their degree, but that's how it is...


I think the major problem is the current structure of the US economy. If you haven't been working while in University, the average job you can expect to get is an entry-level position (Let's face it - even with education, nobody is going to hire an "untested entity". Outside of the sciences, engineering, and vocational training, University degrees have always been about developing generalized, critical thinking skills and forming contacts.) If you're "overqualified" and want to work for an entry-level firm people fear that you'll go to a better job when the going gets good and so don't hire heavily credentiled people. The economy isn't making jobs and the unemployment rate would be in the double digits if "discouraged workers" and part-time workers wanting full time employment were counted. Don't expect an easy time finding employment for the next 4+ years (the insane austerity measures are sure to make matters worse).


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