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28 Aug 2011, 4:51 pm

Have any of you seen this clip from the Kathy Lee Gifford show? I honestly think this song she wrote was way to over the top. What do you think about it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MwuJy07lQY


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28 Aug 2011, 5:11 pm

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103357/serenading-kathie-lee


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28 Aug 2011, 5:29 pm

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Wow, that was funny!


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28 Aug 2011, 9:58 pm

I think it is important to be tolerant of others emotions and creativity when they are being nice and seek to help.


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28 Aug 2011, 10:45 pm

I'm glad there are young men like that in the world...both of them. It's a good thing to see.



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30 Aug 2011, 7:30 pm

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I'm glad there are young men like that in the world...both of them. It's a good thing to see.


I agree, but that song was way to over the top. I was fed up when they laughed at him for saying the song was "sad." Kathy Lee Gifford needs to get an education, she makes herself look pathetic!


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31 Aug 2011, 6:20 pm

And they say WE are the ones who lack empathy???

Disgusting....



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31 Aug 2011, 10:12 pm

I can't help but conclude that they don't know really what AS is. My own experience is that it's the 'achiever' types who are more inclined to be nice to me than are the people that I suppose can be described as mediocre. I think that it would have been more accurate to emphasise what the AS kid can do and that an "achiever" would be friendly to such a person is not simply altruism or done out of pity. In my opinion, people who are told they are achievers from a young age are told to value any kind of natural talent and AS people often show such talent and capabilities that impress such people. It isn't necessarily to be a genius as is the stereotype, it can be more modest and can still impress such people.



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31 Aug 2011, 10:23 pm

I am still not understanding what was wrong with the song. Which part did people laugh at the person? It just seems that few can actually do right in the eyes of the so called aspie and even when they care about people with more disabilities then the atypical aspie the aspie hates on it. It's getting kind of tiring and would someone please explain what was intentionally wrong with the video?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSLapLWQL7w&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube]


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01 Sep 2011, 11:38 pm

That song exaggerated everything and there's a lot of stigma in that song. If somebody sang that song about me, I wouldn't have had the tact that the boy had. I would have told them my exact feelings about the song.

This is my theme song:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9GQWqYAkhM[/youtube]


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02 Sep 2011, 12:24 am

Welcome to the reality of autism. Certain diagnostic aspects are stereotypically present in some more then others which reflect REALITY and to express love and caring for an individual who experiences disability is only human nature. If you don't experience those kinds of disabilities and or do not want that kind of love that is your choice for yourself and I won't be peer pressured into believing it is all around wrong. I find well meaningful, caring and supportive people to be the hope of change for individual with autism in society. I will not agree by alienating them by making their good intentions into horrible bigotries or to in return hate on it in anyway. I think it's a kind of unfortunate intolerance some people who claim to have autism are doing toward others and I think they need to find better ways to express their personal objections concerning perceptions of themselves instead of imposing that their views be reflected on all people with autism in their own choices and relations with others. I think just this kind of subject is evidence of what is wrong with certain kinds of advocacy mentalities whom attempt to govern how others relate to us by twisting up, inventing into and attempting to shame otherwise caring people for bothering in the first place.

Sorry Mr. Rebel but enough is enough.

Nice song though I like it as a motto as well.


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02 Sep 2011, 9:08 am

There are ways to show kindness to a person with asperger's that doesn't result in humiliating them infront of a large group of people, let alone on live national television. Seriously, how were they expecting him to answer that question? He was crying thus acknowledging it was a sad song. So he says it's a sad song. WTF? How does that warrant a huge burst of laughter? The song might've been great for the NTs but not for the kid. In fact a lot of NTs don't seem to get that in situations like this, people with AS will tend to have the opposite response about it.

To help people means knowing who you're helping and how and they went about this in the worst possible way.



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02 Sep 2011, 9:33 am

ci wrote:
I think just this kind of subject is evidence of what is wrong with certain kinds of advocacy mentalities whom attempt to govern how others relate to us by twisting up, inventing into and attempting to shame otherwise caring people for bothering in the first place.

This is what it comes down to in the end. Attacking people you don't agree with.



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02 Sep 2011, 12:00 pm

Gedrene wrote:
ci wrote:
I think just this kind of subject is evidence of what is wrong with certain kinds of advocacy mentalities whom attempt to govern how others relate to us by twisting up, inventing into and attempting to shame otherwise caring people for bothering in the first place.

This is what it comes down to in the end. Attacking people you don't agree with.


Disagreeing is not attacking. The reply was about finding different ways to approach what one disagrees with. So as not to create bitter sides. Just the opposite of attacking.


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02 Sep 2011, 12:07 pm

raisedbyignorance wrote:
There are ways to show kindness to a person with asperger's that doesn't result in humiliating them infront of a large group of people, let alone on live national television. Seriously, how were they expecting him to answer that question? He was crying thus acknowledging it was a sad song. So he says it's a sad song. WTF? How does that warrant a huge burst of laughter? The song might've been great for the NTs but not for the kid. In fact a lot of NTs don't seem to get that in situations like this, people with AS will tend to have the opposite response about it.

To help people means knowing who you're helping and how and they went about this in the worst possible way.


Show me which part of the video people laughed. As far as just the opposite reaction as N.T's perhaps your speaking about politically conditioned pupils who have been peer pressured to be intolerant toward otherwise good intentions for political reasons. I thought the song was pure and if I was sitting their I'd be embarrassed but as an adult no one would sing that song toward me. There was allot of love in that song and perhaps the demeaning laughing came from a part in peoples minds where the meaning of which cold hearted people put others down by going poor you and so on. In other words the same kind of stuff some so called aspies say to others with autism which they have likely learned to do because it was done to them in other circumstances.

You get me evidence people made fun of this young man for his disabilities and I will get ahold of the media and have it confronted.

If anything to much love. But it sure does make the wicked witch of the west melt!


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02 Sep 2011, 12:12 pm

ci wrote:
Gedrene wrote:
ci wrote:
I think just this kind of subject is evidence of what is wrong with certain kinds of advocacy mentalities whom attempt to govern how others relate to us by twisting up, inventing into and attempting to shame otherwise caring people for bothering in the first place.

This is what it comes down to in the end. Attacking people you don't agree with.


Disagreeing is not attacking. The reply was about finding different ways to approach what one disagrees with. So as not to create bitter sides. Just the opposite of attacking.

The reply was about how people twist up thing and invent new ways to shame others. It was an attack.