Obama's apporval rating has dropped to a all-time low

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29 Aug 2011, 6:52 am

http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/28/obama ... time-high/

So much for "The Anointed One."
14 months till we can kick him out



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29 Aug 2011, 9:06 am

Congress has had 10-20% approval ratings for the last ?years and they keep getting re-elected.

Although, this time around when asked 'would you vote for your congressman', that percentage has dropped to an all time low IIRC.
so hopefully we get another ~100 new people in there.

On a serious note; it doesn't matter who the president is.



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29 Aug 2011, 9:16 am

His new disapproval comes from the left (because of his caving to congress on the debt ceiling deal).
Do you really think these people are going to vote for a republican?


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29 Aug 2011, 9:19 am

if he gets re-elected i'm calling shenanigans on the election system. but my crystal ball says it might happen.



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29 Aug 2011, 9:21 am

johansen wrote:
if he gets re-elected i'm calling shenanigans on the election system. but my crystal ball says it might happen.


my crystal ball says you were gunna cry shenanigans no matter what happens.


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29 Aug 2011, 3:54 pm

johansen wrote:
Congress has had 10-20% approval ratings for the last ?years and they keep getting re-elected.

Although, this time around when asked 'would you vote for your congressman', that percentage has dropped to an all time low IIRC.
so hopefully we get another ~100 new people in there.

On a serious note; it doesn't matter who the president is.


Well there was one of the largest turnover in the House since 1938. You can't really compare congressional approval since a member of congress is just one of 435 and there is only one president. A lot of people hate congress but like their own representative apparently.

Obama is in a lot of trouble. Unless he can somehow magically solve the unemployment problem in the next year, he's extremely vulnerable.



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29 Aug 2011, 4:20 pm

This awfully low approval rating is further proof that America wants no neocons in office.


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29 Aug 2011, 6:44 pm

Overall, confidence in government is low.

"Poll: Government’s Image at All-Time Low"

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/ ... ent-image/

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According to a new Gallup survey, the image of the federal government is at an all-time low.

According to the poll, Americans view the computer industry the most positively and the federal government the least positively when asked to rate 25 business and industry sectors.


The federal government has been near the bottom of the list in previous years, Gallup reports, but is at the absolute bottom this year for the first time, displacing the oil and gas industry. Only 17 percent of Americans have a positive view of the federal government while 63 percent have a negative image, a staggering 46-point gap. Real estate, health care, banking, and the legal field all rank above the federal government. The images of the federal government and the real estate industry have dropped the most during the past decade, with the percentage of Americans rating the government positively has declined 24 points since 2003, when George W. Bush was president.

There are a number of (tentative) conclusions that might be drawn from this finding, including this one:



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29 Aug 2011, 7:10 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jQT7_rVxAE[/youtube]

This is George Carlin explaining the system, and holds similar views to my own and many other Americans for that matter. I feel like our voices aren't heard, and politicians will say whatever they want to get elected, then do the exact opposite of what they promise.



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29 Aug 2011, 7:26 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
This awfully low approval rating is further proof that America wants no neocons in office.


So they want the paleocons so we can secure the borders, end 3rd world welfare, cut social security and medicare, cut taxes even further, bring our troops home, axe the department of energy, education, health, etc, axe the IRS, etc? btw Bill Clinton is a NeoCon by today's standards and he was an awesome president.

until the left teaches a majority of Americans to view the world through its lens(and thus vote a lefty in), no one is electing anyone slightly perceived to be to the left of Obama, certainly not for the rest of this decade, or the next. Obama did nothing but make calls for unity and come off as everyone's president, which won over many independents, conservative democrats, and a small group of conservatives, but try having a real leftist being a leftist, no matter how crappy the GOP candidate with all their hate speech and anti-immigrant sentiment, the GOPer will get elected.


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29 Aug 2011, 9:39 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
His new disapproval comes from the left (because of his caving to congress on the debt ceiling deal).
Do you really think these people are going to vote for a republican?

Right now it's looking like a lot of groups that voted for Obama are going to have a low turnout next election.

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This awfully low approval rating is further proof that America wants no neocons in office.

The approval rating for congress was still pretty pathetic when this latest session of congress started. The debt ceiling pissed a lot of people off but there was no possible solution to that problem that was even going to make a majority of the people happy. Even most representatives that voted for it went on TV and said they didn't like the deal, each for their own reasons. Different regions will be unhappy with their representatives for different reasons. Some will be mad for letting Obama have is mad money until the next election is over. Others will be mad for not getting a tax increase. The largest faction of voters surveyed wanted a little increase, a little taxes, and a little spending cuts, so it will be interesting to see how they vote. There is a large portion of the country that votes almost exclusively for neocons and now tea party candidates as well, and a large portion that only votes for socialists, so it's just a matter of seeing who gets stuck with most of the blame in the swing states and districts.


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30 Aug 2011, 2:20 am

Well, he's got 14 months to get it back closer to 50 or he'll lose. He was briefly at 53 two months ago.

And of course Reagan hit 35% in 1983. But in 1984 he won 49 states. The quality of the opponent counts for something.



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30 Aug 2011, 3:56 am

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Well, he's got 14 months to get it back closer to 50 or he'll lose. He was briefly at 53 two months ago.

And of course Reagan hit 35% in 1983. But in 1984 he won 49 states. The quality of the opponent counts for something.

It's possible on paper, but Obama is hardly in the same league as Regan, and his psychological profile indicates he is incapable coping in a crisis situation (and so far those psychiatrists have been right).


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30 Aug 2011, 4:01 am

It would take a miracle. Unemployment fell from a high in 10.8% in Dec 1982 to 7.2% on election day. Economic growth is expected to be about 2% in 2012 while it was 7.2% in 1984. Growth is expected to be 1.6% this year apparently and 1983 was like 4 or 5%.

Obama is in some deep poo poo.



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30 Aug 2011, 6:51 am

John_Browning wrote:
simon_says wrote:
Well, he's got 14 months to get it back closer to 50 or he'll lose. He was briefly at 53 two months ago.

And of course Reagan hit 35% in 1983. But in 1984 he won 49 states. The quality of the opponent counts for something.

It's possible on paper, but Obama is hardly in the same league as Regan, and his psychological profile indicates he is incapable coping in a crisis situation (and so far those psychiatrists have been right).



Well, Regan was possessed by Satan so she really had some interesting powers. Unless you mean Reagan. As for your analysis, I'll file that in the usual place bubba.

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It would take a miracle. Unemployment fell from a high in 10.8% in Dec 1982 to 7.2% on election day. Economic growth is expected to be about 2% in 2012 while it was 7.2% in 1984. Growth is expected to be 1.6% this year apparently and 1983 was like 4 or 5%.

Obama is in some deep poo poo.


True the economy is unlikely to turn around much. But if polls 14 months out were predictive, Hillary would be president. And a 7.2% unemployment rate doesn't get you 49 states in most races. Quality of opposition is a factor in any race Ive ever seen and Obama campaigns very well. Even with him down at the polls, it's a very close race.



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30 Aug 2011, 7:44 am

7.2% is high but still a dramatic improvement of where it was at the end of 1982 as mentioned. Unfortunately for Obama, unemployment isn't expect to fall below 8.5% by November 2012 and is expect to stay above 8% until at least 2014. Could the predictions be wrong? Absolutely but unfortunately again for Obama, they're usually wrong in the other direction as they have been throughout his term in office. Obama's biggest fear would the economy officially falling back into recession, a much more likely scenario than some rapid recovery.

Just looking at the numbers, it's hard to imagine Obama winning reelection. I won't sell him short tho and he is the incumbent but it would be one for the record books. I think increasingly, his only shot at reelection is if a third party candidate splits the anti-Obama vote which is possible. Could go the other way too and disgruntled member's of Obama's base could abandon him for a possible primary or third party opponent.