If you wanted a new band to come out what would they be?

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What I'm really asking is I know a lot of the stuff out there these days in terms of 'band' music has a very similar feel to it (at least what's semi above-ground), is in a state where its more pushed for commercial viability, people may or may not debate that rock and a lot of things similar have lost their edge just by how they're getting cranked out by big record labels (like a lot of people argue with hip-hop these days as well).

My question to you is what would you really like to hear out a new band that you either to the best of your knowledge isn't out there and you wish was? Also, by all means, if you see someone suggesting something that they'd love to see but you know its already out there and either hasn't made it big or hasn't yet but might be catching major attention in the underground or on soundclick type sights - lol, please speak up because I'm sure that person would love to find it.




I'll go first with this. I was starting to think about industrial a bit at work today and the fact that the good stuff hasn't been done in a long time (someone also started a thread trying to sort this out). I'd love to hear something like this - it definitely has some major Skinny Puppy influence, especially from albums like Mind the Perpetual Intercourse or VIVISectVI, very similar attitude in terms of being real dark, reticent, articulate, I kinda would have likened their vibe to that of Tool on Aenima and Undertow in that they just had something really slick going on in that direction and especially with this band - if they're lyrics on the surfact didn't make sense I wouldn't want to hear it be the kind of stuff that's done like that just for the sake of being abstract (that's weaksauce IMO) but it talks about things that are very relevant but just from some really clever and slightly sadistic angles. No goofy teen angst, no Poppa Roach, no Godsmack, no Rammstein cheese in it. They might have their humor and catchy edge in there but again, it follows that same kind of plan like SP with Stairs and Flowers where it keeps well with the overall form of what their doing.

As far as the music itself behind the vocals it would be updated - very much that kind of industrial that seems to flirt with hip-hop beats a lot, a lot of crash and burn slip-outs, stutters to the beatz, the beatz would be phrased in that way where they were non-predictable and had lots of breaks from 4/4 meter or what I'd think of as anticipation drop-outs or skips that just add that turntablist attitude in there. The ambient effects in their style would be very pronounced to draw out the mood as much as possible. It would also have melodies that are emotionally exaggerated and have that sort of drawn-out heaviness like you'd probably feel if you listened to something like that REALLY stoned. Another thing on the drumwork is they would experiment a lot with those slow-fast type beats like you hear with a lot of the better hip-hop, and at times while you knew you were listening to industrial it would mess with you a bit in the sense that it might almost 'feel' at times like your hearing some kind of G-Unit or dirty south type beats but you aren't and...lol, it would pull your mind your mind in two ways at once while rather than just being the mud in the middleground between the two genres it would present in a way that your mind wouldn't fully be able to or know exactly how to process what it was catching.

Overall the beat pattern and flow would be liquidgroove or if it did have a clomp track the paradigm of it wouldn't be even close to that of Wumpscut or that kind of industrial. The more liquid stuff would of course have a lot of sourceless metallic creaks and groans, sounds played backwards, stuff that would in another sense remind you of a lot of Nine Inch Nails remix cd's (IMO whether it was Fixed or Further Down the Spiral I tended to like the feel, attitude, and sound play of those cds more). Of course with that kind of dark liquid you'd also want to borrow a lot of the sicker more metallic bass and synthlines at times from a lot of rolling techstep as well as acid techno, not tackily to where it pulls it off its basis as industrial and throws it in the electronica rave bin but where it has at least a bit of that twist in it. Also it would be sick if they played a bit even with the whole African or Carribean gothic feel and took raggae or dark funk but spinning off the eeriest ethnic angles melodically and texturally (again, something you would have very much expected Skinny Puppy to do very well and very tastefully in the here and now if they're minds were at where they were between 1986 and 1990). In the end it would be the kind of thing where people wouldn't really be able to draw a solid picture of who the fanbase was - you'd have traditional industrial fans, junglist ravers, maybe a few hip-hop fans but probably not as many hip-hop purists.

Just one hypothetical song from this group - of course the singer would sound a lot like Cevin Key or Ogre, maybe a little bit of style-jocking is ok, not that its necessary but other than Lane Staley of Alice In Chains and Maynard James Keenan from Tool I've rarely heard a vocalist really push an emotional ambience to what you were hearing and I think that this kind of sound is just owned by SP's style of vocals. Anyway, the ambience is a lot like Harsh Stone White off of VIVISectVI but you take elements from a track like Stole Something off of Blood Money by Mobb Deep, have a lot of those hip-hop style trip effects, have that sort of warm background ambience going on like both tracks kinda do, have effects that kinda bring to mind tape-reels going or something that lends that image of what you see in the movies when they're trying to do that effect where the film burns and melts on the bulb, you get the drift. As for anyone thinking this band should have a rapper and a singer - rofl, no, that just lands it in the 'trying too hard to be everything' and it gets things going on a really bad commercial tangent. Yeah, I guess the end result you might be able to slightly liken to Prodigy on Fat of the Land but it wouldn't be the same, maybe some of the same moods but much different in approach and way more willingness to use more beat, effects, and yeah just general genre and mood twisting.

Lol, as I think about it I'll probably have to go on some of the indi artist MP3 sites and start scouting a bit...

The Bus Poles, and they must be from London.

A far better Alternative Metal band where some of their songs are great, complete metal instrumentals, or if they did have lyrics they are good lyrics. They are also animated and the creator is anonymous. They are called Ground Zero. It is comprised of 2 members; the vocalist "Jacksnipe" Real name Rob Murphy who is the vocalist and electric guitar player. The second member "Fallout" Real name Ian Canon plays the drums and bass. Their songs are like in a circuit.

i'd like to hear an artist like bob marley come out. and not someone who remixes his songs but comes out with his own and sounds just as good

maybe a good deathmetal band that isn't satanic would also be nice

im not really into rap, unless its the old stuff like eazy e, dr dre, ice cube, warren g.
none of that lil john crap

i don't like pop

a good punk band would also be very cool! along the lines of operation ivy or the vandals of course!

hardly got any replies, perhaps people needed to chew on it a little longer.

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Anything else you want me to add?

I'd like to see a really loud, multi-layered guitar band with intelligent lyrics and vocals which are sung rather than shouted.

Their psychedelic, funky songs should sound like the Stone Roses, but heavier. Like The Music, but with tunes. Or indeed, like Of Arrowe Hill but without the Scouse accents

Their slow songs should brood like a cross between Portishead and My Bloody Valentine.

Their all-out rock songs should sound like a cross between the Smashing Pumpkins' "Siamese Dream" (but with a decent singer), "Going Blank Again" by Ride, Earth vs. The Wildhearts, "Happy Days" by Catherine Wheel and "Jug Fulla Sun" by Spirit Caravan. I'm not sure that's entirely possible, but I'd like to see someone give it their best shot.

They'd have the swagger of the Blues Explosion and the shit-eating grins of Fu Manchu.

Anyone know a band who fit the bill?

Surely you must like Mogwai, hermit?

Loudish multi-layed guitar band with No discernable lyrics, very sparse computerised distorted 'sung' vocals, and some beautiful pianos & strings.
Obviously influenced by My Bloody Valentine (and Slowdive), maybe better.
Great live; the tunes are like landscapes washing all over you.
I'd like to hear them do some longer, slower & louder 'songs'.

Like Low, one of the slowest 'guitar' bands i know, very minimalist with simple lyrics, every note counts; amazing musicians. Low are as close to perfection as you will get for that kind of sound.

Hmmm... yes and no. "Mogwai Fear Satan" is the only track I really like. They seem a little clinical, somehow. I like the kind of fuzz and feedback that comes from playing loud just for the hell of it - gratuitous noise, if you will. A lot of 'heavy' bands are quite miserable, lyrically, but when I listen to bands like Soundgarden or Faith No More I can't help but think that the guitarists must have been grinning from ear to ear every time they played. Imagine churning out the riff to "4th of July" and feeling every note in the bottom of your chest, and the hairs standing up on the back of your neck, and then playing it again and again and again....

For me, it's a kind of catharsis through sensory overload. Mogwai just don't have that sense of wanton glee about them.

Have you heard of Pelican? They're similar but much, much louder

Yes i can see where you are coming from.
Mogwai are 'clinical', but i like that; the slow build-up which really takes you into the sound, rather than the full-on headlong assault of the senses ( which can be nice too).
No wanton glee, but there's a hypnotic rapture about their music you rarely find ouside of 'Trance' music.

I thought Pelican were like a 'death-metal' kind of band so i've never heard them; but i will be sure too check them out.
The latest things i have been listening too are Smashing Pumpkins & Kraftwerk bootlegs, so i could be in need of something fresh!

Not real familiar with Mogwai but if your talking about a real deep Helmet or newer Slayer kind of guitaring and play where it's EQ'd real low, kinda that tunneling through the muck kinda sound and having some real good melodics over it in terms of piano and orchestral yeah, that's always ill. Sounds almost like suggesting Type O Negative's October rust without Peter Steel.

The Smashing Pumpkins went through so many changes in style....

I love "Siamese Dream". I believe Billy Corgan wrote and played virtually everything on that album, as he'd fallen out with his band mates. It is an obsessive, swirling kind of album. Powerful, unpredictable, epic and profound. They never really matched it, and his voice (which was never a strong point) really started to give up after that, too.

There were a couple of obscure releases - the "Zero" EP and and the Pisces Iscariot album which had "Frail and Bedazzled" on it, a good song. There's also an internet-only double album which could be downloaded from their website (Machina II). It was ok but nothing special, to be honest.

Pelican are very heavy, it is true. But they're instrumental so they don't suffer from the normal deranged growling about demons which fuels my dislike of heavy metal. I like feelgood heavy music, not horror stories.

About the only way I like horror story is if its about spitting fifths of lead at the opposition (don't know why though). When I listen to the darker stuff I like it when it gets transcendental and makes you think and feel in ways that normal society just doesn't, something quite a bit deeper - that comes more from matching the music and themes in certain ways I think. When I go on about the newer mixes by Skitty and Loxy, that whole new style that's been going on with Renegade Hardware and all that is really slick - it's like it has all kinds of attributes of metal and industrial, much like dark jungle always has, but the way it blends the raggae flavors and melodics in with other themes that almost remind me of background music from Silent Hill it's like something real synergistic happens. Its like they can take some really dark vibes and sounds but keep em from sounding morose just by adding some playful percussion and having these real delicate and defined basslines (of course half the time having an MC tends to veer it all well away from any kind of confusion someone might have as to whether they should be listening to it like its hip hop or wether they should be headbanging).

-A band that had those gothic orchestral/choral instrumental choices of some Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth songs (think the beginnings of CoF's "Nymphetamine" or DB's "Progenies of the Great Apocalypse" and "Hybrid Stigmata"), but replace that annoying black metal singing style with the more operatic singing style of the woman from Nightwish, all wrapped up with the kind of hard rock/metal guitar work found in, saaay, the Deftones, rather than the black metal style of supercharged guitar work. The lyrics would have subject matter dealing with a lot of dark fantasy stuff (including some modern dark fantasy stuff), and each song would tell another piece of a detailed overall story. So each album would have a full story to tell, a story that would be written as a series of epic poems turned into music. (Lyrics, then, would get a big emphesis as well as the mood.) At this point the closest thing we have to that is the "Lacrymosa" song from the new Evanescence Album.

-An gothic/rock/semi-Industrial band that had the stylistic feeling and mood of Orgy in their "Vapor Transmission" album, but with their songs having the same kind of anti-war, anti-corporation political meanings found in the more famous Beatles songs, and with a really kickass female vocalist...think someone who sounds a bit like Free Dominguez of the Kidneythieves, with that same kind of cold, slightly creepy, almost vampiric singing style.

any of you heard Devin Townsend?

I seriously recommend checking him out..

When I first heard his stuff I couldn't believe someone was actually doing it, felt like music from my dreams.. Inspired me to follow my own vision and create.

any of you heard Devin Townsend?

I seriously recommend checking him out..

When I first heard his stuff I couldn't believe someone was actually doing it, felt like music from my dreams.. Inspired me to follow my own vision and create.