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01 Oct 2011, 11:41 am

I just found some link on google saying that Jenny McCarthy believes circumcision (male) causes autism... :? :? :? (Seriously?) Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has opinions on this and if their may be any extra positive or negative effects on autistic boys who are circumcised vs. not?


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01 Oct 2011, 11:59 am

Take everything the fluffy playboy bunny says with a major grain of salt. Autism for her seems to be a flavour of the week sort of thing. She should have stuck to porn movies, there, at least, she is believable.


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01 Oct 2011, 12:06 pm

Gotta love nutters on the internet :D
I don't see how circumcision could cause anything in the brain except from PTSD



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01 Oct 2011, 12:37 pm

I thought that this was going to be a thread in the adult only section, but thinking about it I see no reason why removing part of a "you know what", John Thomas or what ever you want to call it will cause autism.

By the way I have read that the term John Thomas is linked to a part of the male by the fact that the name was associated with Lady Chatterley's Lover, it might be an urban legend but it did make me smile. I have read Lady Chatterley's Lover but I would say that it was a rather boring book.


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01 Oct 2011, 11:09 pm

I wasn't actually sure if I should have posted this in the adult only section, new & media or here b/c of what the post is about? But I think its both a health issue and an example of stupid media.


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01 Oct 2011, 11:32 pm

Jenny McCarthy has no real medical credentials - she gave up her nursing education to pose nude for Playboy. This means that her opinions concerning medical issues are likely to have been pulled from a place where the Sun doesn't shine. I wouldn't give her the credit.

Her son may not even have autism.

Daniel B. Rubin, MD, PhD wrote:
In After Vaccine-Autism Case Settlement, MDs Urged to Continue Recommending Vaccines (June 5), Dawn Fallik correctly cites Jenny McCarthy as a celebrity fanning the flames of the vaccine-autism link ... what the public does not realize as well as perhaps McCarthy is that her son was most likely misdiagnosed with autism in the first place. His disorder began with seizures and, subsequently, with the seizures treated, he improved. This would be more consistent with Landau-Kleffner syndrome, which often is misdiagnosed as autism.

She's a threat to healthy children everywhere.

Jeff Minton for TIME wrote:
It goes something like this: in McCarthy's world, there is scientific truth and there is emotional truth. There is the fact of a mother looking into her son's eyes and knowing something has gone very wrong and the fact of about two dozen studies showing no link between vaccines and autism. There is the truth of the parents and the truth of the doctors. And she believes that some truths are more equal than others. "She's a mom," says her boyfriend, actor Jim Carrey. "That's what she is. That's her truth." It all sounds so reasonable, expressed by the charming, gamine Jenny McCarthy. And this is what makes her dangerous.

So pay her no mind. She's one of those deluded people that their beliefs are justified by their feelings, especially when those beliefs are not supported by facts.


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02 Oct 2011, 5:29 am

Peko wrote:
I just found some link on google saying that Jenny McCarthy believes circumcision (male) causes autism... :? :? :? (Seriously?) Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has opinions on this and if their may be any extra positive or negative effects on autistic boys who are circumcised vs. not?


Specifically to autism? No. But sex will be less pleasurable if you have it done.

Same for female circumcision. Depending on the type.



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02 Oct 2011, 9:26 am

This might sound funny but I've occasionally wondered if for some autistic guys, being circumcised would help them cope with touch related sensory issues? More specifically, at least in my case (even though I'm female) I had issues with bathing as a child and wondered if autistic males were less likely to have this if circumcised? And yes, Jenny McCarthy is absolutely ridiculous. I'd rather get the medical opinion of my dog when it comes to autism :lol:.


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02 Oct 2011, 8:52 pm

Male circumcision affects the penis only. So if they are having sensory issues with their foreskin/penis it wouldn't help... the outside of the foreskin is not very sensitive. The inside is and the 'head' itself is. If anything it would make it generally more sensitive in a bath setting.

With females it may potentially be a different story. The most commonly removed part of the female body during circumcision is the clitoris. If it was the cause of the sensory issues then removing it would probably help.

With that said, it's NOT worth it. You don't want to mutilate your sexual organs just so you can have a bath. There is no legitimate reason to circumcise girls or boys. I'm surprised the male one isn't illegal.



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02 Oct 2011, 9:11 pm

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… sex will be less pleasurable if you have it done.




:?:


to who?



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02 Oct 2011, 9:55 pm

She only says this because no one's put her on to the thing about intestinal worms yet.


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03 Oct 2011, 12:36 am

aspi-rant wrote:
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… sex will be less pleasurable if you have it done.




:?:


to who?


The one with a circumcised penis.



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08 Oct 2011, 6:23 pm

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
aspi-rant wrote:
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… sex will be less pleasurable if you have it done.




:?:


to who?


The one with a circumcised penis.


I disagree. Sure having a dangly bit of skin may create more friction, but I hardly think that is the be and end all of sexual pleasure.

The head (glans?) is super-sensitive anyway, it being fully exposed allows more of it to come into contact with the intended orifice :oops: which allows theoretically more stimulation.

Being someone without a foreskin, I cannot say I miss it at all or imagine any useful function for it.



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09 Oct 2011, 8:56 am

the foreskin goes back during sex anyway. The foreskin has more nerve endings than the glans. makes sense that there would be more sensation there. For me there definitely is. when it is rolled back and you are having sex the inside of the foreskin (the sensitive part) rubs against the inside of the vagina.

I'm fairly convinced men are better off having their foreskin. I can't imagine it matters that much to sex but the issue of consent means that most circumcision is ethically wrong. sorry for OT



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09 Oct 2011, 8:23 pm

I could get a boner at the age I was circumcised, I really dont remember the foreskin being at all sensitive, just a bit irritating. I also have never heard of men complaining of "lack of stimulation" in that area. Men are more likely to have problems with over-stimulation / premature ejaculation than not being able to "climax".



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10 Oct 2011, 12:10 am

i don't mind not having the turtleneck hoodie down there. i worked in the operating room for long enough to see that adult men undergoing circumcision experience major discomfort for a while afterwards. it is [for adults who suffer from phimosis not amenable to creams and such] a bloody operation, requiring every hemostat in my instrument set, and then some. it is nowhere near as simple a procedure as commonly performed on infants. i would not want to go through what those poor men went through. plus in my case, not having a foreskin is one less thing for me to worry about, as hygiene is simplified.
after all this grimness, a bit of musical humor by "the four skins" is needed here-
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9kwJ2pV4yc[/youtube]
bet y'all never imagined that so many different musical groups called themselves the four skins :lol: