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06 Oct 2011, 11:37 pm

Could you realistically see yourself ever hanging out with, let alone dating a person I'm about describe. You probably wouldn't even want to be in a room alone with a person for an extended period of time.

The person is extremely ugly to begin with, and you can tell he's pretty slow and stupid by the way he acts, talks, and looks. His social skills are pretty jacked up, he spaces out at times and stares at random objects without knowing.

Here's the main thing; He has no knowledge and can't debate anything related to: politics, philosophy, art, evolution, religion, history, science, etc. The person knows this and keeps trying bring up his interests to start a conversation. Anime, video games, and random stuff happening on tv or the web.

I mean wouldn't you get very irritated, annoyed, and repulsed at the simple-mindedness of this person and try to avoid him at all cost?

Add that the person is a poor, friendless, uneducated (sped) hermit that still lives with his parents. Also, he can barely bathe himself and lives off SSI and foodstamps.

Wouldn't most women here consider a person like that a pathetic dumb loser that has no shot in hell at getting a date?



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06 Oct 2011, 11:39 pm

my experience as the person in your description would figure the answer to be "no"...



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06 Oct 2011, 11:41 pm

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06 Oct 2011, 11:59 pm

MR20 wrote:
Could you realistically see yourself ever hanging out with, let alone dating a person I'm about describe. You probably wouldn't even want to be in a room alone with a person for an extended period of time.

The person is extremely ugly to begin with, and you can tell he's pretty slow and stupid by the way he acts, talks, and looks. His social skills are pretty jacked up, he spaces out at times and stares at random objects without knowing.

Here's the main thing; He has no knowledge and can't debate anything related to: politics, philosophy, art, evolution, religion, history, science, etc. The person knows this and keeps trying bring up his interests to start a conversation. Anime, video games, and random stuff happening on tv or the web.

I mean wouldn't you get very irritated, annoyed, and repulsed at the simple-mindedness of this person and try to avoid him at all cost?

Add that the person is a poor, friendless, uneducated (sped) hermit that still lives with his parents. Also, he can barely bathe himself and lives off SSI and foodstamps.

Wouldn't most women here consider a person like that a pathetic dumb loser that has no shot in hell at getting a date?


Would you date someone who thought you were ugly, slow and stupid, and didn't know anything useful? I hope not. You should have your standards too.

Social skills can be improved upon. They may never come as easy for you but you don't have to become a social butterfly. You just need to master some basic skills. You can also obtain an education if you feel you are uneducated.



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07 Oct 2011, 12:16 am

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Could you realistically see yourself ever hanging out with, let alone dating a person I'm about describe. You probably wouldn't even want to be in a room alone with a person for an extended period of time.

The person is extremely ugly to begin with, and you can tell he's pretty slow and stupid by the way he acts, talks, and looks. His social skills are pretty jacked up, he spaces out at times and stares at random objects without knowing.

Here's the main thing; He has no knowledge and can't debate anything related to: politics, philosophy, art, evolution, religion, history, science, etc. The person knows this and keeps trying bring up his interests to start a conversation. Anime, video games, and random stuff happening on tv or the web.

I mean wouldn't you get very irritated, annoyed, and repulsed at the simple-mindedness of this person and try to avoid him at all cost?

Add that the person is a poor, friendless, uneducated (sped) hermit that still lives with his parents. Also, he can barely bathe himself and lives off SSI and foodstamps.

Wouldn't most women here consider a person like that a pathetic dumb loser that has no shot in hell at getting a date?


Would you date someone who thought you were ugly, slow and stupid, and didn't know anything useful? I hope not. You should have your standards too.



So you just basically asked me would I hang out with or date myself? The answer is a resounding no, as I've said pretty much in every post that I've made since I've been on this site.

That post just proves that I'm pathetic, repulsive, good for nothing, loser that should just off himself.



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07 Oct 2011, 12:24 am

Take a shower, stop whining, and groom yourself. You'd be amazed by how many woman love talking about tv and web nonsense, but you'll never find one who enjoys listening to endless self-loathing drivel that has no constructive end.



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07 Oct 2011, 12:24 am

^ I like your avatar.



I would happily be friends with OP's said person, unless he posed some sort of threat to me. I would like him to shower though, I have really sensitive senses, the not showering thing would be a bigger problem to me than the guy being ugly, etc.

Dating, well I dont know, the guy would have to connect with me in some way I guess.


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07 Oct 2011, 12:43 am

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Take a shower, stop whining, and groom yourself. You'd be amazed by how many woman love talking about tv and web nonsense, but you'll never find one who enjoys listening to endless self-loathing drivel that has no constructive end.


I'm not whining, and the "drivel" you speak of are my feelings.



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07 Oct 2011, 12:48 am

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^ I like your avatar.



I would happily be friends with OP's said person, unless he posed some sort of threat to me. I would like him to shower though, I have really sensitive senses, the not showering thing would be a bigger problem to me than the guy being ugly, etc.

Dating, well I dont know, the guy would have to connect with me in some way I guess.


I'd doubt you would hang with me, at least not for more than a set amount of time. Males are the same, they wouldn't hang with me unless I had something useful and beneficial that would be worth their time.



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07 Oct 2011, 12:48 am

@ the OP: why would anyone want to hang out with a person with terrible hygiene and an unwillingness to expand beyond their narrow interests?

I hate to tell aspies this, but . . . humanity has a right to expect more from you. I'm astonished how many aspies have zero interest in self-improvement and personal growth. It's a common canard: "I'm 25 and I've never done anything except stare at anime and get fat -- why doesn't the world like me?"

If you can outline a problem then you can solve it. Frankly, even by aspie standards your range of interests is depressingly limited. Diversify your life. If hygiene is an ongoing struggle, then get your hygiene onto a solid schedule and observe it religiously. You list your problems and you work at them every day. To be honest, if you address those issues, you might accidentally also make yourself employable.



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07 Oct 2011, 1:01 am

MR20 wrote:
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Take a shower, stop whining, and groom yourself. You'd be amazed by how many woman love talking about tv and web nonsense, but you'll never find one who enjoys listening to endless self-loathing drivel that has no constructive end.


I'm not whining, and the "drivel" you speak of are my feelings.



No, drivel is words. The words you again and again use to express self pity. Self pity is not an emotion, it's a behavior, and it's a useless and repulsive one. This is something that can be fixed, and if you fix it (and your hygiene) you'll find that there are plenty of people willing to spend time with you.

Most people don't want to talk about philosophy and politics all day, and most people have at least one or two "ugly" friends.



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07 Oct 2011, 1:12 am

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@ the OP: why would anyone want to hang out with a person with terrible hygiene and an unwillingness to expand beyond their narrow interests?

I hate to tell aspies this, but . . . humanity has a right to expect more from you. I'm astonished how many aspies have zero interest in self-improvement and personal growth. It's a common canard: "I'm 25 and I've never done anything except stare at anime and get fat -- why doesn't the world like me?"

If you can outline a problem then you can solve it. Frankly, even by aspie standards your range of interests is depressingly limited. Diversify your life. If hygiene is an ongoing struggle, then get your hygiene onto a solid schedule and observe it religiously. You list your problems and you work at them every day. To be honest, if you address those issues, you might accidentally also make yourself employable.


I'm not fat. It's hard learning about that stuff that I mentioned and I'm not really interested in any of it. I just like to focus on things that I enjoy and understand. I can't force myself to like things.

Most of that stuff is hard to understand anyway as I've spent the majority of my school years in special ed, not learning anything.

Edit: I went through your previous posts and noticed that you don't have problems getting dates and having friends. I found myself getting kinda jealous. I wish I could be that way instead being a slow, ret*d, and lonely bum that has nothing going on in my life.



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07 Oct 2011, 1:18 am

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I just like to focus on things that I enjoy and understand. I can't force myself to like things.


Then you're totally f****d.

So ends another edition of Easy Answers to Easy Questions. Tune in next week when we discuss "I'm gonna flap my wings like a bird because I think hang gliders and helicopters are for chumps."



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07 Oct 2011, 1:20 am

I don't know what I'd talk about with someone who wasn't interested in politics, economics, philosophy, or psychology- any academic study of the human condition.

That's because those are *my* special interests.

The rest doesn't really matter.


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07 Oct 2011, 1:32 am

MrEGuy wrote:
MR20 wrote:
I just like to focus on things that I enjoy and understand. I can't force myself to like things.


Then you're totally f****.

So ends another edition of Easy Answers to Easy Questions. Tune in next week when we discuss "I'm gonna flap my wings like a bird because I think hang gliders and helicopters are for chumps."


I've read that quote 10+ times over and I still don't know what you mean.



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07 Oct 2011, 1:39 am

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Edit: I went through your previous posts and noticed that you don't have problems getting dates and having friends. I found myself getting kinda jealous. I wish I could be that way instead being a slow, ret*d, and lonely bum that has nothing going on in my life.


You play the cards you're dealt.

I grew up in a f****d up and abusive family in a very loud, impoverished environment. My childhood was aspie hell and it took me into my mid-20s before my default response to unavoidable stress was to do anything besides scream, threaten, confront and destroy s**t until people got out of my way.

I drew a better set of cards than a lot of aspies. I wasn't railroaded into special education. Quite the opposite in fact, though fat lot of good it did me. I completed college and ended up facing down a basic fact: I was not employable. Despite being educated, articulate and capable, I couldn't function in a structured environment because I would simply over-ride authority or outright confront it expecting it to back down. For a long stretch, I couldn't hold down a job of any kind.

When I was in my mid-20s, I faced the problem down. I went through everything that was wrong with me and I made a determined effort to fix it.

Maybe you are unfixable. But, you can't say that until you've tried to tear things apart, replace the defective parts and throw it all back together. Rinse and repeat as necessary until it works or you expire. Whichever comes first -- it's actually the second one, and that goes for everyone because we are all broken.

You're not dead, which means tomorrow is another chance to try.