Prediction of world war 3 after Kim Jong il death...

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19 Dec 2011, 1:57 pm

Beware that Kim Jong il is death is close the year 2012. I predict that Kim Jung un,(North Korea's new leader) will cause a world war 3. He is young and crazy and can send nukes with push of the button. As Kim Jong il wanted nukes not to nuke united states, but to prevent evasion, Kim Jong il knows it would suicide to nuke the united states. Kim Jung ils death is the ripple effect of world war 3. The first place that would be nuke is South Korea, since the capital is only 30 miles away from Kasong where there can be possibly be nukes.Than Iran, syria, and someother country will make an evil axis, and ww3 is going to happen again. I not taking life for granted now I am going to lose my virginity b4 madness happens.



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19 Dec 2011, 2:41 pm

I wouldn't worry.



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19 Dec 2011, 2:42 pm

highwayman wrote:
I not taking life for granted now I am going to lose my virginity b4 madness happens.


Best "When TSHTF" strategy I've heard. 8)



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19 Dec 2011, 3:51 pm

highwayman wrote:
Beware that Kim Jong il is death is close the year 2012. I predict that Kim Jung un,(North Korea's new leader) will cause a world war 3. He is young and crazy and can send nukes with push of the button. As Kim Jong il wanted nukes not to nuke united states, but to prevent evasion, Kim Jong il knows it would suicide to nuke the united states. Kim Jung ils death is the ripple effect of world war 3. The first place that would be nuke is South Korea, since the capital is only 30 miles away from Kasong where there can be possibly be nukes.Than Iran, syria, and someother country will make an evil axis, and ww3 is going to happen again. I not taking life for granted now I am going to lose my virginity b4 madness happens.


There is nothing special about the year 2012 except that it comes after 2011 and before 2013.

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19 Dec 2011, 4:10 pm

I wouldn't lose any sleep over North Korea destroying the world.

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19 Dec 2011, 5:13 pm

If North Korea fired a missile at anybody, they'd be wiped off the face of the planet. I doubt they're going to cause world war three. When WW3 does happen, I'm off to live in the woods, or on some random island somewhere off in the ocean.



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19 Dec 2011, 7:23 pm

ruveyn wrote:
highwayman wrote:
Beware that Kim Jong il is death is close the year 2012. I predict that Kim Jung un,(North Korea's new leader) will cause a world war 3. He is young and crazy and can send nukes with push of the button. As Kim Jong il wanted nukes not to nuke united states, but to prevent evasion, Kim Jong il knows it would suicide to nuke the united states. Kim Jung ils death is the ripple effect of world war 3. The first place that would be nuke is South Korea, since the capital is only 30 miles away from Kasong where there can be possibly be nukes.Than Iran, syria, and someother country will make an evil axis, and ww3 is going to happen again. I not taking life for granted now I am going to lose my virginity b4 madness happens.


There is nothing special about the year 2012 except that it comes after 2011 and before 2013.

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Well the term self-fulfilling prophecy comes to mind where the hysteria alone could lead to a collapse of civilization. It's also a good opportunity to exploit superstitions so there could a few cases of 2012 'doomsday' terrorists trying to provoke the end-of-the-world scenario.


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19 Dec 2011, 7:53 pm

They haven't got any deployable nukes. Implosion type fission bombs (like the first one developed by the US in 1945) are the simplest of deplyable atomic weapons. North Korea tested two and they both fizzled. (Yeah that's a real technical term for it.) The bomb blew itself apart before the fuel had a chance to undergo fission in sufficient quantity for an acceptable yield. A gun-type design is simpler, but it is bulky and can't be fitted on missiles.

Then they'd need to make the nukes small enough to fit atop a missile? They aren't even close.

Besides the entire Mayan calendar crap is just crap. Their calendar numbering scheme runs out on winter solstice in what we refer to as year 2012. It's like the year 999 on our calendar, or 9999. It is not significant to anyone except Mayan historians and archeologists. But boy do a lot of people make a lot of money off of this, selling books and DVDs and making appearances on Discovery channel!! ! :roll: The believers (like the OP) are true believers. The instigators of this myth are in it for the money.



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20 Dec 2011, 5:11 am

well, if this is going to happen, perhaps autistics are going to be on the advantage finally; hightened perception, generally more resistant to disease, calm and logical brains... yup, sounds like the survival group leaders to me.

excuse me, i have to stock up on essentials



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20 Dec 2011, 5:32 am

Dilbert wrote:
They haven't got any deployable nukes. Implosion type fission bombs (like the first one developed by the US in 1945) are the simplest of deplyable atomic weapons. North Korea tested two and they both fizzled. (Yeah that's a real technical term for it.) The bomb blew itself apart before the fuel had a chance to undergo fission in sufficient quantity for an acceptable yield. A gun-type design is simpler, but it is bulky and can't be fitted on missiles.

Then they'd need to make the nukes small enough to fit atop a missile? They aren't even close.

Besides the entire Mayan calendar crap is just crap. Their calendar numbering scheme runs out on winter solstice in what we refer to as year 2012. It's like the year 999 on our calendar, or 9999. It is not significant to anyone except Mayan historians and archeologists. But boy do a lot of people make a lot of money off of this, selling books and DVDs and making appearances on Discovery channel!! ! :roll: The believers (like the OP) are true believers. The instigators of this myth are in it for the money.


Why not try to LaRouche Orgnization, they are the ones also speaking of this year being something bad right now, thinking Obama is a Nazi and the Republicans are Anti-Freedom of Culture and Freedom of Religion.



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21 Dec 2011, 12:16 am

Why it made me think about the third reich.. :?
However, disagree.At least give me some proof that this little Kim is as crazy as you said, please.



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21 Dec 2011, 12:19 am

The world will not end just because some sawed-off whack-job with a bad haircut stopped living and left his son in charge of a third-world country with a fourth-rate army.



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21 Dec 2011, 1:34 am

December 21, 2012 will be business as usual.


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21 Dec 2011, 5:20 pm

snapcap wrote:
highwayman wrote:
I not taking life for granted now I am going to lose my virginity b4 madness happens.


Best "When TSHTF" strategy I've heard. 8)


Seconded. By all means go for it. :P


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29 Dec 2011, 4:32 am

I wouldn't underestimate them.

If they team up with other people that will be WW3,



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29 Dec 2011, 3:49 pm

Team up with whom?

Let's think about where people's interests lie.

First and foremost, the North Korean establishment (the government, the KWP and the Army). Above all, stability is their watchword. Anything that might destabilize the country could, in turn, lead to their ouster. For all their bluster about Chosun hanada, no one with any power in the North actually wants reunification, because they know what happened to East Germany. Taking a few potshots at a South Korean island or a South Korean ship is one thing--invasion across the DMZ is suicide--and they know it.

Secondly, her neighbors. The PRC is all that is keeping the country functioning at the moment, because she is their sole source of petroleum. But the PRC makes far more money from her trade relationship with the South, and a rogue state lying next to one of China's major trading partners is not in China's interests. Russia is on friendly terms, but only to the extent that it serves Russia's foreign policy interests with respect to Japan and pacific trade. Rason is an ice-free port with good access to the Northern Pacific and provides a cheaper option than expanding capacity at Vladivostok.

Third, her trading partners. Even if a deal for oil could be struck with Iran, North Korea does not have the hard currency with which to purchase the product, nor the refinery capacity. There's absolutely no point in having tanks if you don't have diesel to put into the engines.

But there is one threat in which North Korea can be complicit, and that's the Middle East. Iran is far behind North Korea in nuclear weapon's technology, and is a ready market for North Korean expertise. We know what North Korea's nuclear capabilities are. She has plenty of uranium in the ground, and she has enrichment capability sufficient for either low enrichment reactor purposes, or for high enrichment bomb purposes. After her two tests, she probably has enough highly enriched Uranium for five or six devices, but no capability of delivering them (they're Uranium devices, so they are big, bulky and not particularly aerodynamic unless you drop them from a bomber). With a low enrichment reactor, she also has a source of plutonium. What she does not have is the ability to create a plutonium device--yet.

So, what's a viable foreign policy approach? Since she has uranium supplies of her own, the capacity to refine it and the ability to weaponize it, then why pretend that this can be stopped? What can, and should be, stopped is the sale of this supply and technology into other hands. If relations with North Korea are normalized, trading relationships established to give her access to food, petroleum and export markets, then perhaps there will be some incentive for the administration to "join the club," and keep her weapons technology for herself, and to content herself with the nuclear weapons that she has now, rather than building newer technology.

So here's where sensible foreign policy and good politics divide. The "Axis of Evil" is good politics--but it's stupid foreign policy. The United States need to find a way to climb down, and accept the things that she cannot change in order to prevent things that she does not want to happen.


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