Dyslexia and/or Asperger

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Dyslexia and/or Asperger

Hello,

I like to know as much as possible about diagnosing Dyslexia instead of Asperger. A friend of mine is diagnoses with Dyslexia but believes she may have Asperger instead - or in addition.

What are the differences, and what are the similarities by diagnosing and actually by living with the phenomena?

I would be happy for any comments. I would also like to use anonymous comments in a paper I liek to write about diagnosing Dyslexia with or wrongly instead of Asperger. I appreciate any comments here or via email: [email protected]

Thank you very much,
Sebastian

Dylexia is a learning disability, has to do with reading,spelling and writing. I have dyscalculous, my math is 100 times worse then my reading,spelling and writing. which is hard to believe since I don't think I spelled dyscalculous correctly. Do to the high level of frustration in knowing you have some form of intelligence yet not being able to learn like others can, can cause some behavior problems. Well geez, it's embarrasing. You are in an uphill battle with the school. Get the book "Special Education Rights and Responsibilities" and study, study, study. You are in an uphill battles with the schools, as do to dollars and cents they won't want to help your child, even though by law they have to. So learn what your child's rights are. Request and I.E.P (Individualized Educational Program) by lwas they must test your child and do this I.E.P within 90 days. At least that is how it is in California. Good Luck and God Bless

there is a different between dislexeyia and aspergers disle when you see later and words and write them backwards and with aspergers your vocablary is alright and you have a little peop having trouble spelling like i do since i have aspergers

Dyslexia is a disorder that causes errors in the visual recognition of letters and words. I person with dyslexia has difficulty reading sentences on a page.

Dysgraphia is a motor scheduling disorder that causes errors in writing. A person with dysgraphia may know how to spell a word verbally but get it wrong when writing it down. People with dysgraphia tend to hold the pencil in a peculiar manner and have poor legibility.

Asperger's Syndrome is a collection of traits that occur in groups. The most common relevant trait would be poor prosody. A person with AS may be able to read and write words on paper but not understand their meaning or nuance when heard verbally. This leads to social awkwardness as verbal inflection is often used to convey as much meaning as the words themselves (such as when using inflection to indicate sarcasm). Conversely, a person with AS may also have some difficulty understanding written text -- perhaps he or she can read the text both silently or aloud, but then be unable to explain what was meant.

All three disorders can occur independently or in combination.

I say thankyou for answering a silent question I
have been wondering. I was wondering, since
the texts I've read said AS person were little
professors had good articulation, and writing, and
this lead me to believe they read VERY WELL.
Instead I was in for a shock, when I wrote
deeper in words they weren't able to grasp, and
I wasn't understanding why?

I can see why flowery words, and text that is
complicated may confuse them. Correct me if
I am wrong in surmising of the scenerio....

most HFA folk are well worded on paper?
most AS folk are well worded on paper?

most HFA folk are good to great at reading
or reading into things?
most AS folk are not so well worded in
reading, or reading into thing?

Hmmm? Did I forget to grasp other things
that would be a academic difference?

Sincerely,
Ghosthunter

I think the main characteristic of the "Little Professor" trait is that the person with AS may memorize a vast collection of facts about a favorite subject but not really understand them in context. For example, he or she might have memorized all of the bus routes and schedules and can recite them (often when not wanted), but would still be unable to tell you which connections you'd have to make to travel between two locations. The data is there but it's not organized.

A more general problem with having poor prosody is that it's easy to not notice the lack of understanding (in yourself or others). I always have to read things two or three times before I understand them, and may have to ask people to repeat themselves if they use unexpected words. I do not have dyslexia (but do have dysgraphia) and have a reasonably extensive vocabulary. The problem seems to be that my mind starts to formulate the meaning of the sentence before I have read or heard enough of it. If later words don't agree with that visualization then the whole thought process is disrupted and I have to back up until I find something I understood and start over from that point. When reading, losing the train of thought in this way can mean having to back up to the beginning of the paragraph or further. In a conversation, I don't have that option, so either I just nod and say "uh-huh" and hope I didn't miss anything important or else ask for clarification. The problem with sarcasm and innuendo is that they are naturally hard to "get" in the first place, and can really interfere with understanding as they don't generally fit the rest of the conversation.

So the basic idea is I absorb and formulate
it's(something written) hidden meaning,
where you must digest parts and pieces
and then you grasp it.

For example:

I will read book #5 Harry Potter
once, and start reading into past
contexts in subtle sentences not
directly related, and by the second
reading I am already dissecting it's
structural designs, and by a third
reading I will have dissective life
paths recorded in a organized fashion.
(this is not conjecture, but actually
what I will do and it sometimes
takes months to complete one of
these reading obsessions)-I Being HFA

Where you may memorize the words
and what?

Hmmm?
Ghosthunter

Yes, this is true. This is thought to be a result of impaired theory of mind. It is not just in inflection, but if someone is unclear, it becomes very difficult to "fill in the gaps" of what they mean to say. For example, last night I was cutting up cardboard with my class for a project. One girl who came late asked me how we were supposed to cut the cardboard, and I explained it to her.

Then, she asked me "What about you, what are you cutting?"

I replied, "Cardboard."

Then she clarified, saying "No, no, I mean, what are you making with the cardboard?"

And I told her I was doing the same thing she was.

Thinking back on it only moments after this conversation occured, I realized that of course she knew I was cutting cardboard, everyone was cutting cardboard, and she could clearly see that that was what I was doing, as well. I imagine an NT would have realized this intuitively, and either asked her what she meant, or would have given her the correct reply. This is what is meant by impaired theory of mind, where the intuitive grasp of another person's perspective is not there. I have this trouble with sarcasm, as well, just as Jetson mentioned. I can only tell someone is being sarcastic if what they have said is utterly impossible.

I think this is where the "prosody" comes into play. Language is taken at its face value, because there is no underlying understanding of where that language is coming from. What I mean is, it requires extra effort to analyze something someone has said if you can not infer their meaning. This is something that is completely beyond my grasp, as it often seems like other people understand perfectly well, and there is something amorphous and invisible that they all can see and comprehend, but I can not.

I can see where you are coming from.
If someone say's move that! and I would
look at them. I said, as they point to
something and I say, "Oh! you meant
the xyz item".

If they knew me well enough, they would
then say I should have been a little more
specific. I then would say "Yes".

Hmmmm?

From,
Ghosthunter

I have AS, but I do not have dyslexia. My 7yo son has dyslexia, but he most certainly does not have AS!