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26 Jan 2012, 5:38 am

Have you guyses seen this?
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...former Facebook employee Yishan Wong has written a long answer to the question on Quora: " Is Mark Zuckerberg an autocratic CEO with whom no one wants to work? Is he a pain to work with?

The gist is "no" – that Zuckerberg is not a "pain," even if he " does have a touch of the Asperger's."

"If your confidence in your own abilities is self-generated and emotionally secure, and you are seeking someone who will pose to you ever-greater challenges to surmount, then Mark Zuckerberg is a pretty good fit for you. However, he is not there to "develop" you - that's your own job."

Here's the whole answer:

There are plenty of people who are happy to work with Zuckerberg, though there are also plenty who find it difficult.

He is not some sort of ideally charismatic person whose primary quality is that he's easy to get along with. Rather, he's a demanding CEO with a monomaniacal focus on making Facebook succeed in its mission. This is not to say that he's mean - he's a perfectly nice guy on a personal level; it's just that professionally, he is focused on getting it done, and has a limited tolerance for emotional fragility in the people he needs to help him execute on that mission.


He does have a touch of the Asperger's; in my experience this is primarily manifested in that he does not provide much active feedback or confirmation that he is listening to you. I have had multiple experiences where he will ask for my opinion on something and even when we're the only two people in the room, I wasn't sure if he had really comprehended or cared about what I was saying (he doesn't do the usual "oh, all right!" or "hmm, I see!" that most people do; he just listens, sometimes while looking away from you), until later when some strategy change was announced that integrated some or all of my opinions. I think this leads many people to think that he's thoughtlessly autocratic, but it turns out he is actually listening all the time to anything that anyone is saying to him , but you will simply not receive confirmation or acknowledgement until later when he announces his conclusion or decision, whereupon you can observe that he has integrated all his streams of information and advice together.


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26 Jan 2012, 3:43 pm

His former employee saying something off the cuff it seems about him "having a touch of Aspergers" does not equal "is an aspie", you just wnat that to be the case.


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26 Jan 2012, 3:52 pm

We have the movie.

I was told "before you watch this, be prepared to just not like him!"

I had no problems with him in the movie. Really.

I was more upset by that *ss from "Alpha Dog" being in it because since I saw that, I associate him with killing the kid in Alpha Dog.


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26 Jan 2012, 4:07 pm

So does he have it or not?


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26 Jan 2012, 4:21 pm

*sighs* What have Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerberg in common? None of them has been diagnosed with Asperger's, none of them has ever said or so much as hinted to have AS, and none of them is (or was, in Job's case) very likely to be an aspie.

If somebody is successful on a professional and social level, able to deal with customers and employees, capable of being in the public limelight and hounded by press and paparazzi wherever they go, all without ever having any kind of meltdown or shutdown (which would be all over the news), then I just don't see it, sorry. Zuckerberg might be a narcissist if "The Social Network" is only half accurate, but I can't see him as being autistic.



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26 Jan 2012, 4:26 pm

I don't see autism in the description of Mark Zuckerberg. The description sounds like any of the big shot research professors at any prestigious university.



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26 Jan 2012, 4:39 pm

From what I've seen and heard of/about him, he certainly seems to have traits at the very least. And hey, he's a guy who got rich and famous by creating a place to socialise online because he was bad at socialising IRL. Sounds quite damn Aspie to me.



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26 Jan 2012, 8:26 pm

All I can say is I don't really like the Facebook layout.



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26 Jan 2012, 8:36 pm

Phonic wrote:
His former employee saying something off the cuff it seems about him "having a touch of Aspergers" does not equal "is an aspie", you just wnat that to be the case.



Uh...I just find it interesting whenever Aspergers is mentioned in reference to public figures, and wanted to hear other people's thoughts.

Nice try, champ.


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26 Jan 2012, 11:46 pm

Zuckerberg does seem to have the more undesirable AS traits I've seen in this forum, probably by those that think he's just an arrogant b*****d.

I think the writers of The Social Network thought he had AS given the portrayal of the character. That still doesn't prove anything yet.

It's still not enough to go on but it's possible. Everyone knows my view on autism: must have significant impairments. Although I think Zuckerberg could benefit from social skills classes.

My mother actually said she saw him on TV once and said he was talking like he was on my medication. Perhaps he has ADHD? Anyway, who knows...Gifted people show similar symptoms to AS/ADHD.

Also, Craig Nicholls lead singer of The Vines is diagnosed with AS and there haven't been too many stories about him in the news about meltdowns. OK, there were loads before but he wasn't diagnosed then. I talked to him and we talked about sensory issues. He didn't look at me or look terribly interested.


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27 Jan 2012, 12:33 am

pensieve wrote:
Zuckerberg does seem to have the more undesirable AS traits I've seen in this forum, probably by those that think he's just an arrogant b*****d.
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I've often found the least pleasent aspies were those that wanted to "claim" all these celebs as part of their "in group". It's the same group that deal in absolutes about the differences between autistics and NTs


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27 Jan 2012, 3:49 am

I believe it's quite possible, considering the OP said that Mark would often appear uninterested or ignorant during a conversation and has miniel replies, I think thats why I would now believe its true.
It's either the Aspie Eye Contact Issue or a Grandoise Personality or just plain Ignorant/Selfish behaviour.

BTW I still don't understand why Eye Contact is Important, I always do it when speaking, I just occasionally glance here and there when someones talking,
I believe that to a degree for me is that I see it as an Alternative respect, that I wouldnt stare into the "Soul" of a person that may be aggressive or dominant,
like Criminals, isn't it known or something that it isn't good to look a "animal" in its eyes for too long or not long enough, it's like if you dont look you
are letting your guard down, and if you stare at their eyes you are Analysing them, Maybe Judging or Calculating/Planning etc;????



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27 Jan 2012, 12:10 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:
Phonic wrote:
His former employee saying something off the cuff it seems about him "having a touch of Aspergers" does not equal "is an aspie", you just wnat that to be the case.



Uh...I just find it interesting whenever Aspergers is mentioned in reference to public figures, and wanted to hear other people's thoughts.

Nice try, champ.

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27 Jan 2012, 12:16 pm

CrazyCatLord wrote:
*sighs* What have Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerberg in common? None of them has been diagnosed with Asperger's, none of them has ever said or so much as hinted to have AS, and none of them is (or was, in Job's case) very likely to be an aspie.

If somebody is successful on a professional and social level, able to deal with customers and employees, capable of being in the public limelight and hounded by press and paparazzi wherever they go, all without ever having any kind of meltdown or shutdown (which would be all over the news), then I just don't see it, sorry. Zuckerberg might be a narcissist if "The Social Network" is only half accurate, but I can't see him as being autistic.


According to your profile you haven't been diagnosed either. Does that mean you don't have aspergers? Just because someone actually made it in life doesn't mean they no longer have aspergers.

I know in my case, yes being hounded like a famous person would put me on edge but I understand that there are autistics out there that can do it!

It's these limitations people place on us at times that keep us in a repeating loop of failure. Stop listening to them.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fw1CcxCUgg[/youtube]

This kid was not allowed to play basketball over his autism for years. He turned out to be really good after the coach decided he would play nice and let him in at the end of the game but after he won the game, back to not being a basketball player. HOW DISMISSIVE!

He did however get to be on a commercial.

We can do it. It's just harder and other people tend to make up for us what we are not allowed to do.

We're only allowed to be geeks that love computers that obsess over whatever stereotype they have for us.



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27 Jan 2012, 12:20 pm

CrazyCatLord wrote:
*sighs* What have Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerberg in common? None of them has been diagnosed with Asperger's, none of them has ever said or so much as hinted to have AS, and none of them is (or was, in Job's case) very likely to be an aspie.

If somebody is successful on a professional and social level, able to deal with customers and employees, capable of being in the public limelight and hounded by press and paparazzi wherever they go, all without ever having any kind of meltdown or shutdown (which would be all over the news), then I just don't see it, sorry. Zuckerberg might be a narcissist if "The Social Network" is only half accurate, but I can't see him as being autistic.


I have to disagree with all of this.



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27 Jan 2012, 12:39 pm

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CrazyCatLord wrote:
*sighs* What have Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerberg in common? None of them has been diagnosed with Asperger's, none of them has ever said or so much as hinted to have AS, and none of them is (or was, in Job's case) very likely to be an aspie.

If somebody is successful on a professional and social level, able to deal with customers and employees, capable of being in the public limelight and hounded by press and paparazzi wherever they go, all without ever having any kind of meltdown or shutdown (which would be all over the news), then I just don't see it, sorry. Zuckerberg might be a narcissist if "The Social Network" is only half accurate, but I can't see him as being autistic.


I have to disagree with all of this.


So you disagree that Gates, Jobs and Zuckerberg weren't diagnosed with AS and have never themselves said "I have Asperger's"? Do you have any evidence to support that?