Can you see what your ear hear? Audio sight? Bad English!

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13 Apr 2012, 11:00 am

Sorry failed to find a good way to say it.

I can only use two languages Swedish and English.
So when I looked at a French Science program on
The yle.fi Finland TV channel I did not get a word of it.

But it is very interesting. They have made many experiments
in France or maybe Canadian Quebec??? They talked French
and the subtitle where in Finn language. Anyway the showed
that they could teach people to play Soccer only using their
ears to hear where the Ball is and to hit it with their foot.

Looked totally crazy. All of them had "mask" before the eyes
like those you have to be able to sleep in a room that is lit up.

So who knows maybe it did allow them to cheat looking at the floor
seeing their own feet at least.

I have no idea. They showed other experiments too that they
interpreted they could use sound to hear how the world looks.

This is not same as the known Click tracking that learn from Bat and Dolphin
where one listen to the echo of very sharp clicks you do with tongue or
maybe your fingers. They did nothing of that sort. Just ran around in the room
with "blinders" over their eyes. Could it have been some "come on" to test
how gullible us TV viewers are. A kind of experiment that they reveal later?

It looked totally crazy.



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14 Apr 2012, 3:13 am

and i thought you were gonna talk about synesthesia. some folk who are blind from birth, are blessed with exceptionally keen hearing and can hear sounds from discrete directions with great specificity, sufficient to do what you described.
but your english is fine, certainly better than my swedish.



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14 Apr 2012, 6:36 am

Maybe mild? autism spectrum and what you talk about is related.
Or it is a totally other phenomena. My naive take on Syn....
is that it has to do with some kind of connections that NT
has abandon and that still are there in those persons.

But to get back on my topic. When one can not get Finn language
and don't know more than a handful of French and they show what
does look like a Science Show then I want to believe it is for real
and not some kind of faked such to tease? It looked too incredible
to be true. As I get it these all of them where seeing people that
had no prior training in doing it and they put on those sleep in day light
"blinder mask" whatever name them have. To my knowledge one can
cheat using these by looking down ones nose and see a glimpse of
the floor and ones feet?

But they where very many playing football/soccer together in a room
and I got the impression they had had a short instruction first and then
it just worked for them. But I maybe misunderstood the whole thing.

Sure I can try with google and comb the whole yle.fi for science programs
to see if they mention it somewhere or do same for French science TV programs
but what if it where a hoax then spent all that energy on nothing :)

What I know is real though is Click Echo Locating obstacles like lamp posts
or thing in sidewalk and people coming towards the blind or those doing the thing.

But that takes a long time to learn and they have tried to make "cameras" now that
tranlate the picture into mechanical vibrations for the back or arm or electric signals
to the tongue. Wonder how that feels but the blind person translate within the brain
the signals from the device so they "see" a kind of picture.

Not sure if it works on those who never have had sight ever?



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14 Apr 2012, 4:02 pm

This is a rare condition called Synesthesia. Research has shown that 1 in 23 people have some form of this condition, and it comes in a wide range. A very small percentage of people with this condition are not only able to see colors is sounds but they can also see colors in letters. For example "S" looks purple, "T" looks brown, "1" looks aqua, and "8" looks purple.



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14 Apr 2012, 4:11 pm

I find this reasonably plausible as my hearing acute and fairly directional even though I am sighted.

As a child, in band and orchestra I knew exactly who was playing which instruments, while in the middle of a piece. It came in handy as an orchestra principle chair when I need to pay attention to others in my section while I am playing my part.

In sparring practice I often used the sounds made by a sparring partner to provide information to me about just how close or far my opponent is. Not always easy in a setup where it's bare feet on polished wood floor.


I find this more plausible than, say, a demonstration of two baseball teams, each and every member blind, conducting an outdoor game of baseball.



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18 Apr 2012, 2:20 pm

My poor English must have been misleading.
As I get it looking at how it was done none of them
where blind or had any kind of bad sight whatever.

But what I do expect is that maybe some of them cheated
by looking down the outside of their nose giving them a bit
view on their feet when hitting the ball? Nasty of me but
I fail to trust that a group of people getting just a few instructions
could get where the ball are that well.

The guy blind from very early age using the Click method
he had practiced for years to accomplish the skills he had.

So something odd about the program. But I am too lazy
to write to the Finn Yle.fi and ask them about the program.