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25 Apr 2012, 4:49 pm

So I have come to the conclusion that is where many of my issues stem from....what to do with this?


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25 Apr 2012, 4:51 pm

Welcome to reality!
Your question? Do like everyone else!

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If all your issues stems from society, you need to realize you're fu*k'd. I have no advice whatsoever. Good luck!



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25 Apr 2012, 4:55 pm

Blueberrypie wrote:
Welcome to reality!
Your question? Do like everyone else!

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If all your issues stems from society, you need to realize you're f****. I have no advice whatsoever. Good luck!



I pretty much agree with that.......I mean how is anyone supposed to know what I should do when even I don't. but thanks just the same feedback helps me learn so yeah. I just don't know what to do with myself.


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25 Apr 2012, 5:04 pm

Alright, I might as well pop up with a singular advice: Get a job.
I'll assume you have sensory issues, live at home and have finished with college.

If you want to get your s**t together, know that it's never a 'big decision', or some sort of wild epiphany that will set you on the straight path. It's the force of will that keep you persistent and stable when doing 'the little things'. That's it. You just need to do the 'little things' that's positive for you and will facilitate your own growth.

A job? Mailman. It's simple, stable and easy to do. Neither does it force you to socialize with other people. There's a silver lining out there. HAHAHA. Lol. Silver lining? Well... Why not?



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25 Apr 2012, 5:06 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
So I have come to the conclusion that is where many of my issues stem from....what to do with this?


Withdraw from society? Find a nice quiet place somewhere where people won't bother you and you can live self-sufficiently. It's a nice dream - even for someone like me who doesn't share your feeling that society makes me sick. And some people actually achieve that dream.

We can't change society. People say when you can't change something that you have trouble with, you should change your reaction to it. Unfortunately, I'm at a complete loss as to how you actually do that ...


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25 Apr 2012, 5:14 pm

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A job? Mailman. It's simple, stable and easy to do. Neither does it force you to socialize with other people. There's a silver lining out there. HAHAHA. Lol. Silver lining? Well... Why not?


It also isn't worth doing. They don't hire full time employees anymore. They hire part time people, who have to use their own cars, get no benefits and get paid about 1/3rd an hour what the people hired during the 90's get paid.

I'm sorry to say Sweetleaf, you basically have finally come to the ultimate realization of the world. there is nothing that can be done about it. It's something I struggle with constantly. If I go with the flow, rather than doing what I know is correct, I feel as if I'm capitulating to outside demands all the time.. which makes me hate myself. On the other hand, if I constantly plant my feet and refuse to do anything I don't agree with or which i feel I shouldn't have to do.. I get ignored, moved over, or some other method of being marginalized or sidelined.

As Pink Floyd said, Welcome to the Machine.



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25 Apr 2012, 5:29 pm

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Alright, I might as well pop up with a singular advice: Get a job.
I'll assume you have sensory issues, live at home and have finished with college.

If you want to get your sh** together, know that it's never a 'big decision', or some sort of wild epiphany that will set you on the straight path. It's the force of will that keep you persistent and stable when doing 'the little things'. That's it. You just need to do the 'little things' that's positive for you and will facilitate your own growth.

A job? Mailman. It's simple, stable and easy to do. Neither does it force you to socialize with other people. There's a silver lining out there. HAHAHA. Lol. Silver lining? Well... Why not?



I have sensory issues, live at home(kind of, I spend a lot of time at a friends house), and I was not able to complete college hence looking for work instead which I have been doing. But yeah I honestly don't even know what a 'straight' path would look like....let alone how to navigate one. And no matter how many of these little things I do, nothing really ever seems to change in the end.

And I can't be a mail man...not because I am physically female, but because I don't even have a drivers licence at 22 going on 23.

and because you said silver lining I have to post this:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD7KkJopku8[/youtube]


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25 Apr 2012, 5:32 pm

As someone who also is a misanthropist, I feel your pain. One thing I've realized in my short 24 years of being on this planet is there is no avoiding society no matter how much you try to separate yourself from it. If you figure it out though let me know, I'd follow your steps.



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25 Apr 2012, 5:38 pm

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As someone who also is a misanthropist, I feel your pain. One thing I've realized in my short 24 years of being on this planet is there is no avoiding society no matter how much you try to separate yourself from it. If you figure it out though let me know, I'd follow your steps.



Yeah I know, and it's so bloody frusterating, trying not to draw attention to myself while being so different from what society thinks I should be. There is stigma, I can tell by the way some people look at me.........I know people see me and think 'freak, druggy, useless f*ck, ect.' well they are close minded...and can say whatever they want I guess. And this does not make me want to fit in, but even so how am I supposed to make a living? I just don't understand, I don't know if I was ever meant to understand.


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Yeah I know, and it's so bloody frustrating, trying not to draw attention to myself while being so different from what society thinks I should be. There is stigma, I can tell by the way some people look at me.........I know people see me and think 'freak, druggy, useless f*ck, ect.' well they are close minded...and can say whatever they want I guess. And this does not make me want to fit in, but even so how am I supposed to make a living? I just don't understand, I don't know if I was ever meant to understand.

Best way to avoid the societal "court" per say is don't give them anything to single out as weird, individualism is important but remember there is a huge difference between conformity and conforming to the weird. If weird is your thing wear it like a badge, once people see insults don't get you down, they'll get bored fast. When going for a job dress above what the employment requires and be personable, even if its not your real self, all employers will want a employee they can tolerate above qualification. One warning about jobs though is you need to realize, its high school for adults 90% of the time, 10% work. That's the one thing they don't tell you in school, you'll never escape the childish games, drama, and being forced into niches that might share some of your interests.



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25 Apr 2012, 7:54 pm

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Yeah I know, and it's so bloody frustrating, trying not to draw attention to myself while being so different from what society thinks I should be. There is stigma, I can tell by the way some people look at me.........I know people see me and think 'freak, druggy, useless f*ck, ect.' well they are close minded...and can say whatever they want I guess. And this does not make me want to fit in, but even so how am I supposed to make a living? I just don't understand, I don't know if I was ever meant to understand.

Best way to avoid the societal "court" per say is don't give them anything to single out as weird, individualism is important but remember there is a huge difference between conformity and conforming to the weird. If weird is your thing wear it like a badge, once people see insults don't get you down, they'll get bored fast. When going for a job dress above what the employment requires and be personable, even if its not your real self, all employers will want a employee they can tolerate above qualification. One warning about jobs though is you need to realize, its high school for adults 90% of the time, 10% work. That's the one thing they don't tell you in school, you'll never escape the childish games, drama, and being forced into niches that might share some of your interests.


I doubt my dress is an issue for jobs, I mean I do tone the rocker/metalhead style down quite a bit, I still like wearing black but that can look professional. I just have no idea how to act 'normal' so that sometimes gets in the way.


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25 Apr 2012, 7:57 pm

I wish I was like Ozzy Osbourne, then I would just do whatever the hell I feel like and it would work out.....lol.


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25 Apr 2012, 8:03 pm

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I wish I was like Ozzy Osbourne, then I would just do whatever the hell I feel like and it would work out.....lol.


If you had loads of money and an army of people who took care of all the day to day things for you.. I imagine you would be a lot happier.

I know I would.. but sadly.. thats not for the likes of us.



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25 Apr 2012, 8:40 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
So I have come to the conclusion that is where many of my issues stem from....what to do with this?
Society IS sick. But there are many nice individuals in it. It's a mob mentality that is the problem, as I see it. Mobs don't run things very well.



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25 Apr 2012, 9:33 pm

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Sweetleaf wrote:
So I have come to the conclusion that is where many of my issues stem from....what to do with this?
Society IS sick. But there are many nice individuals in it. It's a mob mentality that is the problem, as I see it. Mobs don't run things very well.

On the contrary literal mobs run local governments quite well, being from Rhode Island I've been able to see this first hand. Once they ran out the Italian Mob out of power positions in Providence greedy and even more corrupt representatives ran the city into near bankruptcy. Even though not everything the mob does is "legal", they truly care about the local people above all. Sweetleaf you should try and getting a job where you can work from home, don't know what you went to school for, but 70% of firefox employees work from home, there are many companies that are web based and don't require you to ever see a person.



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25 Apr 2012, 9:43 pm

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Sweetleaf wrote:
So I have come to the conclusion that is where many of my issues stem from....what to do with this?
Society IS sick. But there are many nice individuals in it. It's a mob mentality that is the problem, as I see it. Mobs don't run things very well.

On the contrary literal mobs run local governments quite well, being from Rhode Island I've been able to see this first hand. Once they ran out the Italian Mob out of power positions in Providence greedy and even more corrupt representatives ran the city into near bankruptcy. Even though not everything the mob does is "legal", they truly care about the local people above all. Sweetleaf you should try and getting a job where you can work from home, don't know what you went to school for, but 70% of firefox employees work from home, there are many companies that are web based and don't require you to ever see a person.


I don't even have a home...yeah I offcially live at my moms house, and that would be a terrible environment for any sort of work, so I am limited to jobs outside the home. And I don't mind I just wish I knew a way to prevent my mental symptoms from interfering with things....only thing I can think of is going to the mental health place that apparently offers free help with stuff....and getting some sort of anti-anxiety pill that will help when I feel it all coming on, just so I can get through the work without being mentally prevented due to anxiety or depression or whatever. Anyways I would like to do something interesting, and sitting at home on a computer for a living does not strike me as very interesting or satisfying in any way. I mean I guess that is one idea, just not sure if it would be the right thing for me.


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