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17 May 2012, 5:35 pm

In the movie X-Men "The last stand" (2009) they find a cure for their capabilities and approximately 83 minutes into the movie they shout "we don't need any cure". Doesn't take a rocket science to see some parallels.



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17 May 2012, 5:56 pm

I think this is a flawed analogy. If someone wanted to "cure" my ability to fly, to rip steel beams in half or to shoot friggin' laser beams out of my eyes, I'd also be reluctant to take my prescription (to say the least). But a cure for autism? I'd take it in a heartbeat.

I mean, what do I have to lose? The power to have shutdowns, meltdowns and panic attacks that make me look and feel like an idiot? My superhuman awkwardness and clumsiness? My amazing ability to be a good-for-nothing social recluse in early retirement? Sensory issues aren't the same as super hearing. Being unable to look people in the eye is not a superpower. I'd love to get rid of all that.



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17 May 2012, 5:57 pm

Keyman wrote:
In the movie X-Men "The last stand" (2009) they find a cure for their capabilities and approximately 83 minutes into the movie they shout "we don't need any cure". Doesn't take a rocket science to see some parallels.


I see how people can use it as an analogy, but I don't think the makers of the movie were thinking anything about autism when they made it.


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17 May 2012, 7:27 pm

Bryan Singer has confirmed that the movie was supposed to be an analogy for the public perception of homosexuals.



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17 May 2012, 8:29 pm

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Bryan Singer has confirmed that the movie was supposed to be an analogy for the public perception of homosexuals.


Interesting (not saying your wrong)


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18 May 2012, 12:15 am

CrazyCatLord wrote:
The power to have shutdowns, meltdowns and panic attacks /../ good-for-nothing social recluse in early retirement? Sensory issues /../ unable to look people in the eye is not a superpower. I'd love to get rid of all that.


Not everybody has these problems. Some of us just ain't interested in social chit-chat rituals and facts about celebrities. And has benefits of super focus zooming out. Of course there's problems too. So for some of us there's a net benefit.
If your problems are greater than the benefits, then I certainly understand you want to get rid of it.



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22 Aug 2012, 8:14 pm

hey man --- i telepathic and use it just like another sense. all aspies are telepathic ---they have just been pounded down so much in life , they dont realize they can use telepathy and some are telekinetic. an amazing memory, abilty to take audio data at 5-6 times normal speed... bunch of extra neurons in my prefrontal cortex and a sweet IQ, and 4 college degrees --------my aspergers has served me quite well......

cure that ?-----WTF ?! ! hell with that !------ i would NEVER take a cure for my aspie abilities ........NTs have way more problems then we do -----they are just not sharp enough to realize it.......

most of their famous traits are dangerous and destructive.

"the world is a s**thole because of NTs , not aspies."



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03 Sep 2012, 3:25 pm

Good memory, can easily focus and memorize all sorts of details, super feet (able to feel oncoming cars through the vibrations in the road I'm crossing), super hearing (able to hear lost outdoor kittens from inside a two story building, and be able to tell silver from steel just by ringing it against a fork. NO JOKE!), and an ability to think in a totally different way and think up solutions to problems others would not otherwise concieve.
Despite all, having Aspergers does have its good points.



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03 Sep 2012, 5:12 pm

Last Stand was 2006.

2009 was Xmen origins Wolverine.



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05 Sep 2012, 1:45 am

Delphiki wrote:
Xenu wrote:
Bryan Singer has confirmed that the movie was supposed to be an analogy for the public perception of homosexuals.


Interesting (not saying your wrong)


Regardless, either could apply.

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05 Sep 2012, 12:35 pm

The character "Magneto" clearly sees a parallel between the persecution of "mutants" and the Jews during the holocaust, an event that effected him personally.

It's fair to say many minorities who feel they have been marginalised, might see themselves in the X-men.

I do in enjoy the comparison between AS and the "mutants" because both groups share interesting quirks.



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05 Sep 2012, 1:54 pm

The idea has a lot of real world parallels. People with Asperger's, dyspraxia, ADD, and gay people all may be perfectly happy, but there are still people trying to cure us. If they were to find genes that caused or predisposed people to those conditions, parents would want to make sure their babies didn't have them. Considering the many contributions to society that have come from people with those conditions, it would be foolish to try to cure them. I, for one am happy with my mind, even though it works very differently from other peoples, and I would go so far as to say that I see it as an advantage at least as much as it is a hindrance.



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08 Oct 2012, 9:57 pm

CrazyCatLord wrote:
I think this is a flawed analogy. If someone wanted to "cure" my ability to fly, to rip steel beams in half or to shoot friggin' laser beams out of my eyes, I'd also be reluctant to take my prescription (to say the least). But a cure for autism? I'd take it in a heartbeat.

I mean, what do I have to lose? The power to have shutdowns, meltdowns and panic attacks that make me look and feel like an idiot? My superhuman awkwardness and clumsiness? My amazing ability to be a good-for-nothing social recluse in early retirement? Sensory issues aren't the same as super hearing. Being unable to look people in the eye is not a superpower. I'd love to get rid of all that.


Remember this started as a allergory for nerds, being excluded, the gay issue was a late adaptation.


Anyhow obviously us being in sense actual mutants it was talking about us.

Were a spectrum, just like in first class, some of us, have huge advantages while others are stuck with massive burdens. Some want to be cured some want to be free. Theres a wide spectrum, just like in real life.

Even in the movies its clearly stated that different mutants have different abilities. The xmen are comparable to savants, while morlocks and other groups being more of the regular kind.

HERES A LINK TO THE TYPES OF MUTANTS

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/x-men-m ... 113-1.html



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08 Oct 2012, 10:06 pm

LordExiron wrote:
Considering the many contributions to society that have come from people with those conditions, it would be foolish to try to cure them.


Being supportive of AS could be beneficial to the society at large. But many NT just won't see the point.



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08 Oct 2012, 10:20 pm

I myself do not wish to be "cured".



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08 Oct 2012, 10:25 pm

Tensu wrote:
I myself do not wish to be "cured".


Here, here.