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Hi everyone.
I'm a student, male, 24 years. The username is one of the nicest nicknames I ever got, Mister Cloudlet. That's because I seem to fly in thoughts far above people's heads. Unless I try not to really hard.

As for the Asperger's syndrome, I started being the little professor kid that likes dinosaur latin names and prefers books over peers. Then insert a typical story of growing up scatter-brained, egg-headed, confused and bullied. I went through hell as most of us without professional counseling. Eventually I figured out a thing or two, to get out of the worst and into self-development practices. Since then for years me and the world are in the state of truce.

Just recently this year I asked some right questions the right people who showed me that there is a name for what I am. The revelation was quite bewildering, liberating and binding at the same time. (No cure yet? WTF!) Now I react in a typical way that Aspies react to threats, by learning all about it.

I have three great pleasures in life, that is learning (satisfying my curiosity), lecturing (satisfying other people's curiosity, if they have any) and discussion. (ranging from friendly searching for truth together to ritualized verbal combat)

As most of Aspies, I soaked in lots of computer stuff and I've been a freeware game creator for several years. My other obsessions include reading science fiction and the obvious political, social, psychologic and scientific stuff that forums are full of. The less obvious is mostly spiritual, I'm into meditation and certain occult philosophy. But I do enjoy learning about religions and practicing my atheism. Nobody cares where I live, but I like podcasts like Seth Andrews' The Thinking Atheist, it's a great thing to learn about normal life (in America) and I think he's just a great speaksman and breaks the "not another geeky science podcast" stereotype.

My long-term plans are to earn a bachelor degree of Public administration, masters degree of Sociology and then help to fix the world gone awry. Maybe also find love in form of a pretty and agreeable girlfriend, if that isn't too ambitious

Yes, I am a Czech aspie, from a corner of Czech Republic and here is one more Czech keyword for the searching engine, if you're searching for fresh tracks. I hope to end up in Prague, the main village around here. But for now, to help my pragocentric countrymen with distinction, I'm neither from Bohemian (money) nor Moravian (wine) lands, but Silesian. We have a different dialect, culture and a visible air. Our industry owners want us to see what we breathe.

Ne mluvim chesky!
But welcome. I'm also new to this place. I see you like to read science fiction books.
Have you read the "dune books"?

Hello! Yes, I have read all the Dune series, even those finished after the death of Frank Herbert. I was a little disappointed by the whole Asimovian robot plot, considering what lengths Herbert went to make it all original. But it makes sense, if computers are forbidden, some people have to become mentats to replace them. I think Herbert was a good thinker, he saw that without machines we have to make machines out of ourselves, we need machines to be truly human I agreed with him specially when I was working a while at a car factory production line.

He also portrayed very well what happens when an imperfect race full of capitalism, imperialism, militarism and religion is allowed to spread across galaxy with all the petty human problems reaching cosmic scale. One thing I don't think he quite nailed down is religion/spirituality, it's always there just as some plot pretense to move the masses, it doesn't look like he actually cared about its details.

I only could not finish the three big novels from the earliest era, placed before the whole Dune series. The sheer amount of space opera got tedious and I did not have my Kindle yet.

Cool. I surely must have missed some really good litterature there. The reason why I am interested in dune, is beacuse my son saw one of the giant sandworms on a frontcover in a bookshop.
He got totally hyperfocused on that worm. He also, btw, got AS diagnosed (I "gave" it to him!)

So I want to give him the whole series.

It must have been nice for you to be occupied in your mind with all those great thoughts when you were working at the car factory. I could imagine that you didn't had anyone to share such things with in the lunch break?

I myself also worked with some manually stuff in a big supermarket. I just got so frustrated in the lunch break beacuse of all the boring and pointless smalltalk.
But then again, back then I didn't knew that I had AS

I suppose your son is still little, I'm not sure if he's old enough for the movies or books. But I must say, when I saw the films when I was little, it made a lasting impression. I'll never forget the worms, the rhythmic noise-making things that attract them or the blue eyes I think it also prepared me to like H. R. Giger's decoration and art, I think the made the Harkonnen chairs, if they made it to the movie.

Yes, the work was extremely, insanely boring. Doing a one-minute checking procedure on a car, one per minute or so, for hours. At the midday they changed us to another procedure, but just as simple one. Sometimes I thought I'd go crazy. It's inhumane, it's like the Shanghai tap torture, that lets water drops fall regularly on people's head top till they just break inside. Surprisingly, my co-workers (all women) didn't mind it all that much. I always felt like on the edge of going on a strike, starting a revolution, breaking the machine It's true there were problems with Labour Code and work conditions, people's mood and health. It gave me a plenty of political and social inspiration.

Women's gossip was good against the boredom, when I got someone to tell me. At the time I still had long hair, so I used to hide a headphone under my hair, I listened to music and to podcasts (on American life, politics, atheism and religion, very exotic topics here) and it kept me sane. Of course I wasn't terribly concentrated at the work and it showed on results. My co-workers were all right, though men were just simple workers, they were cordial and we got along well enough. They played a customary trick on me just once

As for lunch break, you're right, that's too valuable time. I had some pretty big and interesting English books to read on lunch breaks. But overall I think people were good, except of course the managers. I made friends among the women and I think I actually got them to cooperate and tolerate more. If someone else's worst vices and sins (told by gossips) are someone's (mine) welcome alleviation of boredom, it kind of changes your perspective

Welcome to WP!

My plan was to give my son the dune series around christmas or so. He would be 11 at that time. I know its not easy litterature for him. But maybe I could read the first book together with him.
Then he could maybe read the others by himself. He learns english extremely fast.
I also like Gigers art very much.
Have you seen Prometheus?. If so, you are welcome to read and reply on my post in the forum called "which character from Prometheus do you relate to the most"

I have had, more or less, the same experience from work like you. Particulary the thing about the others not minding how monotonous the work is. I also wondered from time to time how they could work and work and you could never really tell that it was boring or something on their faces. Pravi Robotniki!

Lucky for you that you could listen to something on a headphone. My hair is thin like fairyhair . I couldn't grow long hair like you and listen to language courses e.g.

Oh... and the gossip!. What you write is so true. I myself can handle a littlebit of gossip, but yes when it's everyday One just go insane.
And you really cannot fight against it, that would be a faux pas! No, what can one really do against this inappropriate NT social reproduction. :

Welcome! I liked your introduction, felt identified with the "liberating but binding" part.mI also enjoy learning, lecutring and discussing a great deal

Welkome to WP

Mick

hello guys I am new here glad to meet you guys on this welsite I am a new person also but I am glad to meet new people. I was diagnosed two years ago with aspergers syndrome and it is hard to deal with it but I am learning to cope with it better from my environment. I think that this site is pretty cool. I want to get to know more people on this sight and glad to meet you.

Your son is 11 and he learns english fast? That's awesome! I never learned english properly until my late teens when we got a better internet and I started going on forums.
I think you're right with Dune. I like how you can read books together with your son. I'm ashamed to discuss novels with my parents, I think they've been judgemental on my entertainment when I was a kid and I never wanted to share with them what I read for fun again. Btw, what do you think about ebooks and ebook readers? (maybe as a Christmas gift for your son, if he starts to like reading )

Btw, if you like Giger, you'll like Richard Marchand. He's a Canadian digital artist working in game industry etc, plus for some time he also made a quirky but pretty cool music. (which I have saved to my comp) He changed his style recently to a new one (wild pastel colors), but his old style of biomechanical fantastic realism is my favorite. Specially the pics "Narcomancer" and "Old Smokey". Look him up on google images.

Not yet, but looks like this time I should watch a movie the same year it was released

Hello! The funny thing is, talk about binding. I just finished a tertiary technical school thesis on education, which is deeply critical of the schools. I suspect that's because I wasn't properly diagnosed and stuff, so I was biased against people like school psychologists who didn't help me. Now I have to defend it
Btw, what do you like to lecture about?


Hi, welcome! It's nice to see another visitor. You might also consider starting a topic of your own and write there something about yourself, what country are you from, what do you like, how did you get diagnosed, etc.

It is a shame that you cannot talk openly with your parents on subjects that interest you . I have a really open and honest relationship with my son. We do all kind of things together, Watching Simpsons every day, playing Diablo2, Farcry2 etc. I also taught him english for some months beacuse he couldn't get the right education from the school(long story).
We also more or less have the same interests, so that's great! Regarding ebooks and ebook readers. Well... hmm... I cannot escape the fact that I'm rather puristic when it comes to books. I also like to give my son a lot of books and he likes to have them on the shelves.


Thx for sharing Richard Marchand with me, I have watched his drawings. I like them. When I was a kid, I also drew pictures with more or less the same theme as Richard.

When the subject is science fiction, we should not forget to mention the movie "AI" I just love that movie so much.

Uh... it's hard to say, about things I'm knowledgeable about, like psychology, politics, languages, other cultures, and many tidbits of information I've gained through things like my TV Tropes or Wikipedia binges I've learnt to read the signs of those who get bored and those who are interested, and got a group of friends where most are interested anyway so...

Daamn, you're a really cool parent, you know that? As for Farcry 2, doesn't he get nightmares? I really started playing FPS games past my teens, I didn't have nerves for that before. (and now I don't have hardware)
My parents refuse gaming as a waste of time (father) and a decadent perversion (mother). I may admire my mother how efficient she is in managing her time productively and how little fun she needs, but I prefer to tell her nothing and let her assume I am as productive as her.

Yes, books are great but when it comes to books for fun, I read so much that post office and shelves just won't do. And the paperbacks keep closing, unless I hold them all the time.

Yes, I saw that one, that was very touching.

Yes, I like these topics too. Wikipedia binges, well said Taking in one tasty morsel of an information after another.
Then in real life something happens or gets said that reminds me of the information and I just can't not tell it

Thanks for the support. My son apparently dosen't get nightmares from FPS games. But instead from movies, so I am very catious about which ones he sees. He actually got a nightmare from one simpsons halloween episode where Will the irish caretaker died and became evil and thereafter took revenge by killing children in their dreams. So that was actually a good reminder upon why he has to wait several years before he can watch for an example Alien and Aliens.
About your parents. Well.. productivity is good and its a good thing that they are efficient. But, when comes to relaxing and recharging socially worn "asperger-batteries", then computergames is just a very effective tool. It is something I have used again and again, and it have helped me many times when I was socially overloaded.
I see you have sociology as a main interest. I have an idea, that you maybe could get a better understanding of your parents inflexibility, if you read Adorno and his writings about the authoritarian personality type. I can say that it helped me a lot in better dealing with other people. And also in dealing with my father ( my mother is very fluffy, so no need for Adorno with her..)