Dealing with ex and child support

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29 Jun 2012, 11:01 am

I was married, gave the fat f*$% 2 wonderful children, even though I really didn't want to, but he wanted me to, so I did it, but couldn't live the way he wanted to--he got all religious on me. Plus I was on meds that made me have a horrible manic episode, so I left. He got the kids, and I was okay with that. I've been good (excellent, actually) about paying child support.

BUT--I did another dumb thing and married a guy who was getting his Masters in Secondary Education, Language Arts, but didn't actually have a real job when we met. He gave up teaching after 2 jobs. Wouldn't try again for anything, and now his credentials have lapsed. And we have a son with PDD-NOS who's 3 and I'm the only one holding down a job because Daddy can't get along with anybody and quits jobs left and right. Daddy stayed home with son for 3 years while I dragged myself to work.

Now we're in debt up to our eyeballs, nearly lost our dinky little house, and are living on beans and rice. And I'm having trouble paying child support.

I feel like I'm nothing but numbers in a bank account. I'm working for everybody but me. I can't carry this load anymore. It's 101 degrees F here today. I am going to park my car in the middle of a parking lot, roll up all the windows and go to sleep.



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29 Jun 2012, 11:15 am

If your income isn't sufficient to pay your bills, you should be able to have the amount of the child support reassessed, although that may take some time. Also, have you looked into state assistance? For a family of three, if you're also making child support payments, even if you work full time you may be eligible for food stamps. It's worth a try; even if you only get a small amount per month, it's something. I imagine all of this varies from state to state though and it might be different where you live.

What's your relationship like with your ex? Is there a possibility that if you spoke to him, he might be willing to negotiate a lower amount or let you postpone some of the child support?

Re your current husband, you say he can't hold down a job because he doesn't get along with anyone. Is there a possibility that he has real issues that are making this impossible for him? Has he been in any kind of counseling or treatment? If he feels there's a genuine reason why he can't work, perhaps he should look into getting SSI or SSDI.

Hope some of this helps. Try to stick with it and figure out a solution. There is help out there.


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29 Jun 2012, 11:35 am

Thanks. I've looked into Food Stamps but Hubby's opposed to it. He doesn't think anything is wrong with him. He thinks it's everybody else. I've just cancelled our family health insurance to be able to pay child support. We can't afford a lawyer so I'm not sure what to do in court.



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29 Jun 2012, 11:37 am

what would happen to your 3 y.o. son if you weren't around?



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29 Jun 2012, 11:53 am

Mindsigh wrote:
Thanks. I've looked into Food Stamps but Hubby's opposed to it. He doesn't think anything is wrong with him. He thinks it's everybody else. I've just cancelled our family health insurance to be able to pay child support. We can't afford a lawyer so I'm not sure what to do in court.


Cancelling your insurance wasn't against your CS order was it?



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29 Jun 2012, 12:10 pm

No, no name, the other kids weren't on the insurance, just hubby. My 3 yo is about to get on Alabama's state childrens' insurance program. I don't know what else to do. One of them can sic the court on me, the other one I have to live with. Hubby thinks my depression is having a negative effect on our son, so if he's right, he'd be better off without me dragging them all down. Nobody cares, as long as they get their money.



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29 Jun 2012, 12:16 pm

I would tell current hubby to get his s**t in order. But that's just me. Seriously, though, life became so much better once I developed a bit of "me"-assertiveness. :wink:

I wish you well. I'm sorry you're going through this. My divorce was more legally-amicable, neither of us pay child support to the other since we split custody 50/50 (obviously not possible in your case).



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29 Jun 2012, 12:49 pm

Mindsigh wrote:
No, no name, the other kids weren't on the insurance, just hubby. My 3 yo is about to get on Alabama's state childrens' insurance program. I don't know what else to do. One of them can sic the court on me, the other one I have to live with. Hubby thinks my depression is having a negative effect on our son, so if he's right, he'd be better off without me dragging them all down. Nobody cares, as long as they get their money.


Your hubby has issues too. It's not clear how that relationship would play out in court though should you choose divorce. As for the CS, you're pretty much screwed unless you gain custody of the original 2. Does Alabama give jail time for missing CS?



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29 Jun 2012, 1:15 pm

Don't know, and I don't care. If I haven't got the money, locking me up isn't going to make it magically appear. It's not like I'm hiding assets. The ex has an ebay business, I think, though, so he is probably hiding some of his assets.



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29 Jun 2012, 5:56 pm

Re the food stamps I would say so what if your husband has issues with it? He's the one failing to pull his weight, and this situation is obviously untenable. Do what you have to do to get the support YOU need, and tell him he'll just have to deal, unless he wants to find some other way to get the money. Whatever the consequences, it's got to be better than the possibilities you're considering at the moment.

You should be able to file for a modification of your custody/child support arrangement without legal assistance, although the paperwork can be confusing. You can even apply to have the filing fees waived-- look for something called "in forma pauperis." My advice would be to call a good family lawyer and ask for a free initial consultation. They can point you toward the resources you need to file everything yourself. Also, you may find that there are other legal resources available. Most places have legal services NPOs that can represent you for free if you qualify. Some states also have free-of-charge mediation services that you can use in lieu of separate legal representation.

Beyond that, my general advice is just start making phone calls. This can be very unpleasant-- I know from much experience-- but also very productive. Call your child support enforcement agency and family/social services agency, explain what the situation is, and ask them what they or you can do to help. The least they will be able to do is point you toward other community resources. As I say, speak to a lawyer once. Talk to your utility providers and find out if they have low-income assistance programs that might help you save a few bucks. Since you say you're in debt, call your creditors and try to get a structured repayment plan. Oftentimes you can get not only lower payments this way, but end up paying back a significantly reduced amount. Find any and all local organizations that are relevant to your situation, and just give them a call and ask if there is ANYTHING they can do to help or any advice they can offer. Trust me, you will find that there are people out there, in the government and in NPOs, who do not want to see families like yours hurt. Often their hands are tied by finances and restrictions, but they will do what they can and it can be enough to make a difference.

I'm a divorced mom of a four-year-old son and I've been in situations not that different from yours in the last couple of years and even when I was scared to death, I did manage to get back on my feet. It sounds like you are the only one in your household pulling everyone's weight, and that's an untenable place to be, but right now the only thing you have control over is your own actions, so for your kid's sake, just do everything that you can. If you didn't care, you wouldn't have been working as hard as you have been, and no child is better off without a parent who cares that much. Just don't give up now, even if it's terrifying. If there's anything I can do or any information I can help you find, don't hesitate to send me a PM.


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01 Jul 2012, 9:43 am

minotaurheadcheese wrote:
Re the food stamps I would say so what if your husband has issues with it? He's the one failing to pull his weight, and this situation is obviously untenable. Do what you have to do to get the support YOU need, and tell him he'll just have to deal, unless he wants to find some other way to get the money. Whatever the consequences, it's got to be better than the possibilities you're considering at the moment.

You should be able to file for a modification of your custody/child support arrangement without legal assistance, although the paperwork can be confusing. You can even apply to have the filing fees waived-- look for something called "in forma pauperis." My advice would be to call a good family lawyer and ask for a free initial consultation. They can point you toward the resources you need to file everything yourself. Also, you may find that there are other legal resources available. Most places have legal services NPOs that can represent you for free if you qualify. Some states also have free-of-charge mediation services that you can use in lieu of separate legal representation.

Beyond that, my general advice is just start making phone calls. This can be very unpleasant-- I know from much experience-- but also very productive. Call your child support enforcement agency and family/social services agency, explain what the situation is, and ask them what they or you can do to help. The least they will be able to do is point you toward other community resources. As I say, speak to a lawyer once. Talk to your utility providers and find out if they have low-income assistance programs that might help you save a few bucks. Since you say you're in debt, call your creditors and try to get a structured repayment plan. Oftentimes you can get not only lower payments this way, but end up paying back a significantly reduced amount. Find any and all local organizations that are relevant to your situation, and just give them a call and ask if there is ANYTHING they can do to help or any advice they can offer. Trust me, you will find that there are people out there, in the government and in NPOs, who do not want to see families like yours hurt. Often their hands are tied by finances and restrictions, but they will do what they can and it can be enough to make a difference.

I'm a divorced mom of a four-year-old son and I've been in situations not that different from yours in the last couple of years and even when I was scared to death, I did manage to get back on my feet. It sounds like you are the only one in your household pulling everyone's weight, and that's an untenable place to be, but right now the only thing you have control over is your own actions, so for your kid's sake, just do everything that you can. If you didn't care, you wouldn't have been working as hard as you have been, and no child is better off without a parent who cares that much. Just don't give up now, even if it's terrifying. If there's anything I can do or any information I can help you find, don't hesitate to send me a PM.


You can also try contacting the child support enforcement agency or the court that your support is thru. Often there are forms they can provide (sometimes you might have to pay a dollar or so for the form). As for having the fees waived, just ask for a fee waiver form. It's a lot easier to remeber than the Latin, and if the court doesn't use the Latin term on the form, you may just confuse the person working there if you try to use that term. A simple child support modification is something I regularly see people do on their own where I work. It will be much easier to fill out the forms if you have the most recent order for child support handy, as well as documentation of how much your income is (such as check stubs, or bank statements), and how much your bills are. You may or may not see them on the request to change your support, but you can be sure to find them on the motion to waive fees, as this information is crucial to determine if they should be waived.



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02 Jul 2012, 9:15 pm

I don't know jank about the legal system so I cant really help but I'll jut toss this out there. You mentioned the son you have with your current husband has PDD-NOS; mental things like that sometimes run in families so consider the possibility that his dad may have something as well & he might not realize it because of his own issues. Also if your son has any special cost; you might could get your CP reduced &/or qualify for some kind of assistance for him like SSI or state Medicaid


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