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Tcass100
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30 Jul 2012, 9:59 pm

I am an aspie married to a NT woman, I feel that she is very needy on an emotional level and she tells me that she finds love from affection, Physical touch and sex. I on the other had have a very low sex drive, I do not like to touch or be touced and the the overstimulation of trying to have sex as often as she wants to is almost unbearable for me, I have a very strong sense of smell as well and i find the smell of sex almost revolting. Anyway, I cant figure out how to get her to understand that i do love her and want us to work out, but there is very little im going to be able to do to change how I am, Im finding myself telling her to just go get what she needs from someone else, even though I dont really want her too..she wants me to try and fins tips on flirting and romance and try something new every week...I just dont know how to make her happy and in return her unhappiness is making my life miserable. :cry:



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30 Jul 2012, 10:09 pm

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I am an aspie married to a NT woman, I feel that she is very needy on an emotional level and she tells me that she finds love from affection, Physical touch and sex. I on the other had have a very low sex drive, I do not like to touch or be touced and the the overstimulation of trying to have sex as often as she wants to is almost unbearable for me, I have a very strong sense of smell as well and i find the smell of sex almost revolting. Anyway, I cant figure out how to get her to understand that i do love her and want us to work out, but there is very little im going to be able to do to change how I am, Im finding myself telling her to just go get what she needs from someone else, even though I dont really want her too..she wants me to try and fins tips on flirting and romance and try something new every week...I just dont know how to make her happy and in return her unhappiness is making my life miserable. :cry:


If you guys have really incompatible sex drives but the rest of the relationship is solid. I think the best way to preserve the parts of the marriage that do work is to outsource the element that isn't.
Maybe you should browse though some Dan Savage columns.


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30 Jul 2012, 10:14 pm

not everyone is up for an open relationship. In fact most arent.



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30 Jul 2012, 10:20 pm

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not everyone is up for an open relationship. In fact most arent.


Then how would you propose resolving a large disparity in sex drive and desire for intimacy?
In this instance an open relationship isn't the alternative to maintaining a stable relationship, it's the alternative to ending a relationship.


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30 Jul 2012, 10:31 pm

did she know that you find aspects of sex revolting and that you can't handle providing the affection she needs when she married you, or has this changed over the course of the marriage?


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30 Jul 2012, 10:32 pm

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
MXH wrote:
not everyone is up for an open relationship. In fact most arent.


Then how would you propose resolving a large disparity in sex drive and desire for intimacy?
In this instance an open relationship isn't the alternative to maintaining a stable relationship, it's the alternative to ending a relationship.


If he isn't up to an open relationship, divorce is better.



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30 Jul 2012, 10:47 pm

Don't go for an open relationship. This brings jealousy into the equation which makes things worse and more complicated. As far as physical intimacy goes, even though you don't really like to touch or be touched, you could try a hug and kiss on the cheek when you or her arrive home from work.

As far as the sex issue goes, you might should try to talk to her about it and let her know about the strong sense of smell, but if you do talk to her about it, make sure not to make her feel as if she is repulsive and is not at fault for this issue. It's not your fault either. Some things aren't anyone's fault.



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30 Jul 2012, 11:03 pm

thepurplefire13 wrote:
. . . As far as the sex issue goes, you might should try to talk to her about it and let her know about the strong sense of smell, but if you do talk to her about it, make sure not to make her feel as if she is repulsive and is not at fault for this issue. It's not your fault either. Some things aren't anyone's fault.
I like this advice.



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30 Jul 2012, 11:21 pm

One touchstone might be, don't leave the marriage if all the two of you need is separate vacations.

When I'm in a relationship, I need a lot of alone time. It's almost like a physical need. I need the time to emotionally process and re-connect with myself, and my NT girlfriends have generally not understood this.

What about abstaining from sex for a while and sensate focus? Like dancing where the two of you are planning not to have sex? A woman in her 30s once explained to me that men generally have a single (broad) dimension to sex and masturbation works fine, whereas women also want skin-on-skin, physical contact in addition to orgasm. And we men might underestimate how much this physical component means to women.

The relationship needs to work for you, too. Being Aspie has a lot of strengths and advantages it brings to a relationship, but I guess needing a lot of time and space isn't one of them.



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30 Jul 2012, 11:37 pm

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
MXH wrote:
not everyone is up for an open relationship. In fact most arent.


Then how would you propose resolving a large disparity in sex drive and desire for intimacy?
In this instance an open relationship isn't the alternative to maintaining a stable relationship, it's the alternative to ending a relationship.


Theres other less drastic ways to solve this issue. But in the end an open relationship is more likely to bring jealousy and guilt and those will end a relationship in a heartbeat.

Example, for the smell you can try some incense which should add a more calming smell to the room PLUS add a bit of romanticism into things. There are also many products made exactly to cover up smell from the crotch area. Another thing you can try is getting her a vibrator. You two can incorporate it in a way. My recomendation, go to a sex shop with her and go through everything you find and think of new ideas with her to help with the things you posted here.


See, a solid piece of advice that doesnt have to go into an extreme.



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30 Jul 2012, 11:52 pm

^^^i would be seriously offended if someone suggested that i need to cover up the smell from my crotch area.


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30 Jul 2012, 11:56 pm

I wasnt diagnosed as aspie till 2 years into the marriage, so i dont think I lied to her about how I am, but she does say that I am different now than in the begining, It took about 6 monthes for the "honeymoon" phase to ware off, In my previous marriage my wife wasnt that into sex so it was never a big deal and i didnt know that anything was wrong,so i couldnt warn her.. I dont think either of us would be into an open marriage, me especially as I get jelous at the drop of a hat..I did try and talk to her about my smell issue and it turned into rather nasty fight about how I think shes disgusting and dirty, which wasnt what the intent was at all..I also require a lot of alone time, which generally she has been good about since the diagnosis..before she thought i just didnt want to be around her even though i tried to explain it to her that I need the time to collect myself and destress, and that it prevents meltdowns..as for masturbation ..well im i guy and have never had any problem with that,,but when it comes to sex the amount of touching is uncomfortable most times and almost painfull at others..I am 35 and my wife is 30, I do give her hugs and kisses on the cheeck a lot, but she says her problem is I dont persue her and show dominance..amd therefore i dont show her I love her, being agressive in the bedroom isnt somthing I know how to do, it almost feels wrong to me to try and be agressive.



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31 Jul 2012, 12:02 am

MXH wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
MXH wrote:
not everyone is up for an open relationship. In fact most arent.


Then how would you propose resolving a large disparity in sex drive and desire for intimacy?
In this instance an open relationship isn't the alternative to maintaining a stable relationship, it's the alternative to ending a relationship.


Theres other less drastic ways to solve this issue. But in the end an open relationship is more likely to bring jealousy and guilt and those will end a relationship in a heartbeat.

Example, for the smell you can try some incense which should add a more calming smell to the room PLUS add a bit of romanticism into things. There are also many products made exactly to cover up smell from the crotch area. Another thing you can try is getting her a vibrator. You two can incorporate it in a way. My recomendation, go to a sex shop with her and go through everything you find and think of new ideas with her to help with the things you posted here.


See, a solid piece of advice that doesnt have to go into an extreme.


I think i may try this, i have mentioned it before and she seemed semi open to the idea, thank you..=}



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31 Jul 2012, 12:07 am

May I ask if you use condoms?

If you do, try polyurathane condoms. I don't like the smell of latex condoms either, and when I started using the polyurathane ones (I use the Durex Avanti) it was so much better. The latex is a big part of the smell of sex. Plus, you could try bathing before you do it.

The touching, I don't really know what to say there. I feel like this is a kyobiashi maru.



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31 Jul 2012, 12:23 am

hyperlexian wrote:
^^^i would be seriously offended if someone suggested that i need to cover up the smell from my crotch area.


the tthing is not saying that the person stinks terribly and its undoable, but simply that not being used to the smell can make it hard to be around. Personally it took around my 20th visit to get used to the smell to a point where it didnt bother me too much.



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31 Jul 2012, 12:28 am

MXH wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
^^^i would be seriously offended if someone suggested that i need to cover up the smell from my crotch area.


the tthing is not saying that the person stinks terribly and its undoable, but simply that not being used to the smell can make it hard to be around. Personally it took around my 20th visit to get used to the smell to a point where it didnt bother me too much.

he's been married twice, so i don't think it is a new smell to him. presumably, her scent didn't change over the course of the marriage, yet his reaction did.


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