Sociopaths

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Has anyone ever noticed the one thing a sociopath hates the most is when someone implies they are crazy?

It shows that subconsciously they know they are crazy.

What is the best way to deal with someone like this?

There's good info out there, but the long & short of it is there's no real effective way to deal with a sociopath...

You can either stay under the radar and not get on their bad side (let them attack someone else) or get together a LOT of people willing to stand together and speak out against the person in a united front. Unfortunately, sociopaths are VERY good at making friends with the right people who will keep their power safe. They never make friends for friendship's sake - it's always to gain power/control/safety/etc. That makes it all the harder to take down a sociopath - their friends will guard the offender in an effort to curry the the sociopath's favor (and avoid the sociopath turning on THEM! I think most people realize a dangerous personality, even if they don't know what a "sociopath" is... and will protect themselves by sucking up and/or redirecting their fury on some other hapless victim. Pure self interest... it's disgusting.)

I had a female supervisor who was the worst sociopath I'd ever encountered before or since - she targeted me because I was too happy being a family man and she was a single mom. I was also too competent with computers and did in an hour what took her all night to plan for, then helped the rest of the team without "going through her first."
She had abused so many people in that company and was well known for it but all upper management refused to acknowledge it. When I took it to HR, my concerns were dismissed and she came back with a successful retaliation resulting in being fired one day before the end of my contract (as a show of force and preventing me from getting my bonus.) The director of HR was one of her favorite "drinking buddies" she she had unlimited freedom in her reign of terror - HR would always stand behind her.


Wish I had better news... united front is your only real hope, and getting social support is hard for we Aspies.

True sociopaths are either born that way or ingrained in them from an early age so I wouldn't call them crazy, just as I wouldn't call psychopaths crazy.

Could anyone enlighten me here
as to why the subject of sociopaths
seems to facinate many people with AS?

Many thanks

'cause they have a power, a social fluency, that most of us aspies can scarcely dream about. 'paths are crazy alright- crazy like foxes. and according to howard storm [google him], 'paths have a BAD future waiting for them when they meet their maker.

Good way to put it. These people are evil in its purest form - 100% self-centeredness.

Also because they're probably the polar opposite of we Aspies... we generally have poor social skills and they're the undisputed masters of it.

Some of us have been victims, too. I see that a lot, here.

To a social master, our social ineptitude is not only a very easy target, it's also downright offensive to them.

Last edited by BlueMax on 07 Aug 2012, 2:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.

So you're saying there's no such thing as a sociopath aspie?

I can see this point of view, but I am not sure this is the case.

Listening carefully to what sociopaths say, most of it is annoying, inappropriate, or weird.

Most of the people in the lives of sociopaths themselves borderline sociopaths or can't think for themselves.

On a tangent, has anyone come across a sociopath that was successful in life with good people around them?
Most of the people around sociopaths don't have much going for them.

I came in contact with this dude the other night, we were having beers, talking about movie ideas, I was so impressed by his ability to pitch a story, and quickly realized he was spinning ideas off the top of his head with great ease. His eye contact and body language was INTENSE while he was "pitching" his ideas. His demeanor completely changed as he was "wooing" me on an idea.

The rest of the time, he was quiet, and his short responses or contributions to the conversation were emotionless.....

He was charming, intelligent, and generous, but he had an agenda being friendly with me. I used to write for a living, and have contacts etc, and at the end of the day, I'm now reading material for him, as he's offered me "stakes" in things. I'm reviewing things he's said about his own abilities and contacts, and wondering how much is truth.

He did share some tidbits about his family, which, without revealing what he said, there's definitely some trauma......

Putting everything together, and looking back on it, if I visualize the whole experience, like a quick "replay" of the time I spent with him, I bet this dude had some sociopath in him. Interesting.......

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hiya Knowbody15 welcome to our neat little cool club

i knew a 'path when i was in the army, he was slicker than snot then, but he was obviously a bad seed still- decades later he later became the owner of the oklahoma storm. i long wondered how he accumulated so much moolah in such a short amount of time.

The suffering that many of us have experienced is inexcusable. This suffering is even more cruel when we reflect on the extent of the imbalance of power wealded over us. I too have been overwhelmed with suffering at the hands of those who have wealded so much power.

And yet can there really be one amongst us here that has not taken advantage of another for his or her own gain?

I think if we look deeply we can see the seed of cruelty in all of us, and yes, it comes wrapped up in autistic forms too. The wise person can see their seed of cruelty and thus not water it.

What many of us lack with respect to self-awareness, we can easily overcomponsate for in intellect and often our own violent protections are completely and conveniently concealed.

To grow as a human being I feel we would do well to understand and sit with our own hidden histories, for when we can, it will enable us to have real insight and ability to disarm our hostilities and help transform our suffering in us and in the world.

Wishing you all well.

i have met aspies who struck me as sociopathic at least by traits.

i was thinking of this. And also as to why being a socio/psychopath is now seen as being evil if youve done nothing to act on it. theres millions and millions of fully functioning socio/psychopaths out there, hell you probably know some, hell theres a high chance a friend or family member is one. In todays self centered society its harder than ever to spot one.

IMHO today's american society is chockablock with either disocial or antisocial types, particularly the former. early in mankind's history, it was the norm to cleave to one's own kind and to either repel outsiders or to exploit them without conscience, and today not much has changed, beyond superficial aspects.