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JeremyNJ1984
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22 Aug 2012, 5:59 pm

it seems like everything these days is linked to autism.



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22 Aug 2012, 6:02 pm

chris5000 wrote:
it seems like everything these days is linked to autism.


I think mine is linked to the fact that my mother ate a cheeseburger once when she was pregnant.

im joking, but seriously, i could probably find a "scientist" to do some research and link autism to beef.



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22 Aug 2012, 6:05 pm

This is getting ridiculous.
Just in the last week I've seen 3 or 4 of these threads.

Basically what they're saying is "We have no clue why this is happening, but give us a lot of money so we can get payed to look into random things,"



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22 Aug 2012, 6:08 pm

Thanks for posting.



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22 Aug 2012, 7:05 pm

Typically a the older the parents are the more risk with the child there is due to the reasons stated in the article. But remember, that this is simply a linked correlation. Its only a rather small part of the cause. My dad was older when my parents had me, he was 38.



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22 Aug 2012, 7:07 pm

Made the national news on CBS this evening. A paper in Nature, no less..
But see my concerns in a previous thread. Possible autism hidden & causing late parenthood in the FIRST PLACE.
But maybe there might be a grain of truth to it..

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22 Aug 2012, 7:11 pm

Matt62 wrote:
Possible autism hidden & causing late parenthood in the FIRST PLACE.


That's a fair point. I don't think there's many 13-16 year old aspie fathers. That sort of phenomenon can really screw around with the statistics.

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22 Aug 2012, 7:23 pm

Ai_Ling wrote:
Typically a the older the parents are the more risk with the child there is due to the reasons stated in the article. But remember, that this is simply a linked correlation. Its only a rather small part of the cause. My dad was older when my parents had me, he was 38.


Agreed as many have said correlation does NOT equal causation. Incidentally though my father was 47 when I was conceived, 48 when I was born.



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22 Aug 2012, 9:34 pm

Please, everyone knows that autism is caused by the mother eating too many citrus fruits during pregnancy, and standing in the rain without an umbrella during the second trimester. That, and the flouride in the water. The only way to counteract the effects of such dangerous pregnancy behavior is for the expectant mother to mix the bile of a llama with the urine of a emu, then drink that concoction mixed into a pomegranate smoothie every day at 5:30 am for the entire third trimester. Come on, everyone knows that.

Seriously, my father was 48 1/2 when I was born. I'm his only child. The reason he became a father so late is because he was in his mid-forties when he married my mother. He was over forty when he first met her. To answer the question everyone asks, no, he was not married before that. He just never managed to have a functional relationship up until then. My Dad was (and at nearly 80 years of age, still is) very good at memorizing facts and statistics in almanacs, and reciting said facts. However, he's never been particularly good at forming and maintaining relationships. My Mom (thirteen years younger than my Dad) was the first woman willing to put up with him for the long haul. She has her own issues, and she felt most comfortable in a relationship with a man who needed her to take care of him, because that put her in control.

So, yes, I am the product of an older father. I still don't think that older fathers are a cause of autism. At least in my case, there are other factors at play.

Incidentally, my father says I'm more like him in personality than anyone else he has ever met.


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22 Aug 2012, 9:43 pm

It sounds and looks like news hype to me, just like everything else that 'casues autism'. The evidence is weak at best.



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22 Aug 2012, 11:55 pm

Hmm, there are several aspies in my family. Let me see, my dad was 31 when my brother was born, 34 when he had me. Is that old? His father was 27 when he was born. My husband was 28 and 29 when our kids were born. We're all aspies and our fathers were all in prime reproductive ages. There must be some sort of link. Maybe it's bad to have children between 25 and 35. :D And all the moms were under 30, maybe that's bad, too. Or maybe it's because we're all related.


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22 Aug 2012, 11:57 pm

Well, my dad was 20 when I was born. So old age can't be a factor here.



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23 Aug 2012, 12:15 am

http://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/2011 ... -marriage/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_in_South_Korea


"As of 2009, according to Korea National Statistical Office, the average age of first marriage is 31.6 for men and 28.7 for women.[2] In a large number of marriages, the male is older than the female. This age disparity is usually intentional. The woman always seeks a man who is at least equal to if not higher than her in socio-economic status. Rarely does an arranged marriage happen where the man is lower than the woman in socio-economic status, class or by height."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/09/healt ... utism.html

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23 Aug 2012, 12:28 am

My father wasn't old, though I'm sure the fact that he and my mother both have some for of ASD didn't help.



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23 Aug 2012, 12:51 am

In laymen terms, with a spectrum of conditions that have different presentations, it's not out of the realm of possibility THAT causation varies, too.

One might have Autism THAT is primarily genetic based, primarily genetic and environmental based, or primarily environmental based....which means research needs to increase in both areas without sacrificing, either. Having said that, there still will be factors that vary in these categories.

At this point.... to estimate, a general overall percentage to genetics and environment...may not represent the broader picture.

*just an opinion and should be taken as such

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