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21 Sep 2012, 1:17 am

Of course i have so many ideas and theorys so why not post them and my new theory is that aspergers people would suit a future where everything is technology.

the reason i think this is a few things such as low empathy, seems to have a big interest in technology (i cant get of the computer usually) and we seem to be fine without to much social interactions.

so im starting to think that if we lived in a world that was all technology we would be alot happier then todays current circumstances.

does anyone understand or feel the same way?



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21 Sep 2012, 1:33 am

A world where everyone communicates via SMS, instant messaging or email. Now THAT is my sort of world.


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21 Sep 2012, 2:03 am

Too many distractions.

Somehow the idea of doing math in a study heated by a wood burning fireplace in a post medieval university sounds much more appealing.



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21 Sep 2012, 2:16 am

On the other hand, there is a certain advantage to not having to put your dog in your bed to attract all the fleas like people supposedly used to do.



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21 Sep 2012, 3:33 am

I think it's the other way.

I could easily fit into a "simple" tribe and get along in comparison to a modern workplace environment and the modern form of socializing.

That's just me though.



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21 Sep 2012, 3:39 am

Dillogic wrote:
I think it's the other way.

I could easily fit into a "simple" tribe and get along in comparison to a modern workplace environment and the modern form of socializing.

That's just me though.

I feel the same way.


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21 Sep 2012, 4:41 am

CrystalStars wrote:
Dillogic wrote:
I think it's the other way.

I could easily fit into a "simple" tribe and get along in comparison to a modern workplace environment and the modern form of socializing.

That's just me though.

I feel the same way.


to be honest i couldnt simply because i would outsmart the tribe, i love technology and i do like the idea of travelling into the past but i definately wouldnt last long lol.



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21 Sep 2012, 7:43 am

The technologies some tribe peoples developed with no written languages, simple tools and materials is astounding. Just look at the fire piston.



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21 Sep 2012, 8:23 am

I think it depends on what the actual future holds. If society keeps it's steady line of technological progress than yes, it will be easier. However, if society reaches a critical mass of what the planet can handle and it all falls apart then I think many aspies and auties will find life nearly impossible to take. I tend to put my money on societal collapse because I see too many things either going wrong or balanced on a string for it not to happen.


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21 Sep 2012, 8:30 am

My rationale is:

The more mental processes to handle, the harder it will be. People with ASDs drop about 50% in functioning when they're juggling two tasks, whereas those without stay at 100% capacity in functioning.

The modern world has a lot more processes involved, with a lot more things to "do" to "get that".



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21 Sep 2012, 8:41 am

outofplace wrote:
I think it depends on what the actual future holds. If society keeps it's steady line of technological progress than yes, it will be easier. However, if society reaches a critical mass of what the planet can handle and it all falls apart then I think many aspies and auties will find life nearly impossible to take. I tend to put my money on societal collapse because I see too many things either going wrong or balanced on a string for it not to happen.


That's the kind of crisis I thrive in. When everything goes south I know how to provide. On the other hand when Jane breaks up with Jack and starts crying I shrivel up in a hole and try to find my happy place.



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17 Oct 2012, 5:30 pm

jonny23 wrote:
The technologies some tribe peoples developed with no written languages, simple tools and materials is astounding. Just look at the fire piston.


I agree. Ever since the Dawn of Human Culture or the Great Leap Forward or whatever you want to call it, humans have always lived in a technological world. Technologies like agriculture and gunpowder, just to name a couple, massively reshaped the world. In our modern age we forget that there is more to technology than electrical devices made possible by the discovery of quantum mechanics.



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17 Oct 2012, 9:26 pm

Yes it would seem that technology is bringing relevance to our traits. My question is this. Will a technology dominated society, something on an order of magnitude we haven't seen yet, think 100-1000 years from now and beyond, favor aspie traits over that of NT? NT's love to celebrate their physical prowess, but let's be honest, we don't need the NFL to have a rewarding civilization. Studies show that testosterone has a greater negative effect than drinking when it comes to behavior. Same goes for hyper idealized societal standards. They say we're abnormal, but that's not according to some universal law. It's by their own self-favoring standards. If we don't become extinct, a hyper-technological world might give rise to a social hierarchy that favors aspie traits and then NT's would be the one's getting diagnoses. I'm bias of course, but aren't we all?

I've been refining my theory on where we fit in to the evolutionary process. I used to have an us vs. them thing going on, but I had to realize that it didn't really mesh well with my overall philosophy and that I also have a chip on my shoulder that I'll always have to be mindful of.

Anyway here it goes. Evolutionary success of a super organism depends of the proliferation of the species. Given that we live on a very disaster prone planet it helps that when a catastrophic event happens there are enough left over to carry on. The methods we have adapted to survive are very profound, but as we see there is a price for being sentient, abstract though can lead to false beliefs. It's a double edged sword when you can believe in the yet undiscovered truth, but you are just as susceptible to believing in lies and even more susceptible to being deceived when you conform to the social hierarchy and aspire to social success above all. Now that's not necessarily a bad thing except we like to take for granted that the current model of society is artificial. Civilization is an artificial creation of man and we take it for granted everyday that it can be undone with our complacency alone. We would certainly be able to continue on without it, but it's a far more beneficial way of life for the species as a whole even if it does have its drawbacks. However, we seem to be pushing ourselves to the worst drawback of all, collapse of civilization as a result not of our inability to adapt, but our unwillingness.

That's where we come in. It's hardwired into our genes that 1% of humanity is going to be autistic as a fail safe against complete subservience to an artificial hierarchy that could result in extinction if people were as accepting of authority as many modern institutions promote. If we never questioned the governments, the churches, the merchants then we would go extinct following their artificial models of the "ideal human". We follow them because they provide a net benefit, but when the dynamic changes, when their model becomes a net negative, that's when interesting things happen like revolts and such. That's fine and all, but how long must we repeat the same mistakes? The caretakers of modern social institutions have no problem repeating the past as they only continue to benefit more and more. They say the internet was made by autistics, it's not hard to argue how it has brought people closer together in plenty of negative, but overwhelmingly positive ways. Wal-Mart just had it's first strike in 5 decades of operation last week because people were able to organize on the internet. The reason why the internet was crucial in achieving that goal is that there is an anti-union culture in Wal-Mart and people are trained to expose union activities to management. Wal-Mart is notorious for paying bottom dollar and manipulating hours of their employees. Governments are being exposed for what they really are. We're slowly waking up.

Of course now that we are aware of the evolutionary imperative that we must survive by our own means and no "god" will save us from ourselves it changes things albeit in a manner in which goes mostly unnoticed. We are collectively aware of this truth even if individually our beliefs allow us to deny it. The proof is all around us today that we don't suffer because of some mystical force called "evil", we suffer because humans plot against each other to prove their own beliefs are superior, and while this mentality has brought us to this glorious stage of civilization we are becoming increasingly more aware of our commonality and the manipulations of the institutions of civilization whose greed and lust for power is the source of our economic misery.

The adversity we face is a necessity to overcoming our situation. I believe that in unity we will find our past accomplishments paling in comparison. That overcoming our own self-destructive ways as a species are intrinsic to evolution. That adversity is an antagonist of change as the struggles we endure shape who are, and who we dream to become.

Of course this is all based on the theory that humanity is actually a superorganism much like an ant colony, we just like to believe we're something more.



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17 Oct 2012, 10:32 pm

Australia wrote:
Of course i have so many ideas and theorys so why not post them and my new theory is that aspergers people would suit a future where everything is technology.

the reason i think this is a few things such as low empathy, seems to have a big interest in technology (i cant get of the computer usually) and we seem to be fine without to much social interactions.

so im starting to think that if we lived in a world that was all technology we would be alot happier then todays current circumstances.

does anyone understand or feel the same way?


In addition to having AS, I'm also a futurist who has predicted certain technologies to come out (6 of which already have). I personally know that a future of technological advancement is already in the works and will arrive in less than a few decades. So I need not speculate on the matter, for me it is simply a matter of time. :)


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