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SaraLane
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22 Sep 2012, 6:58 pm

My friend "Melanie" had a summer fling with a guy, and now that they've broken up, I've been thinking about pursuing the guy. I mentioned this to another friend, "Julie," and she said it would hurt Melanie if I did this without her permission. I find this completely ridiculous. They had an a brief, emotionally uninvolved romance. Julie pressed this so urgently that I agreed to consult Melanie before asking out the guy, and I suppose it isn't too much of an inconvenience since I doubt she'll refuse to allow me to date him, but I just find it unnecessary. Thoughts?



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22 Sep 2012, 7:05 pm

I don't think he's "off limits" but it wouldn't hurt to ask first. Dating friend's exes is a bit of a social taboo.



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22 Sep 2012, 7:08 pm

What you are describing sounds like a scene that was in the movie "Mean Girls". I would side with you, but according to the movie which seems to show how society acts, that is a social no no. I have never personally known anyone in that situation so I'm not sure if the movie truly reflexs real life in that regard. Best of luck :)


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22 Sep 2012, 7:09 pm

its kinda like having sloppy seconds, as we say in australia.



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22 Sep 2012, 7:11 pm

Australia wrote:
its kinda like having sloppy seconds, as we say in australia.


A Canadian hockey star got in trouble for saying sloppy seconds.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR8aQCCf60o[/youtube]



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22 Sep 2012, 7:16 pm

Northeastern292 wrote:
Australia wrote:
its kinda like having sloppy seconds, as we say in australia.


A Canadian hockey star got in trouble for saying sloppy seconds.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR8aQCCf60o[/youtube]


lol but hes canadian. but hey if she wants to date him then thats her choice im not saying dont at all , do what you want you only live once.



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22 Sep 2012, 7:28 pm

Lol well Elisha Cuthbert is Canadian as well



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22 Sep 2012, 9:58 pm

Hi, I think there's kind of a socially assumed "statue of limitations" say in the neighborhood of three months.

If you like, you can ask you friend "Melanie" in a low-key way as a courtesy. It does sound like your other friend is overselling the whole thing.



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22 Sep 2012, 10:06 pm

It is not like asking for her permission, but if "Melanie" is really your friend you should talk to her before asking the guy out. Why? Because she might still have feelings for him and she could feel betrayed if you date him while she is in love with him. By the way, thinking about pursuing the guy your friend used to date does not sound very nice of you.



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22 Sep 2012, 10:24 pm

SaraLane wrote:
My friend "Melanie" had a summer fling with a guy, and now that they've broken up, I've been thinking about pursuing the guy. I mentioned this to another friend, "Julie," and she said it would hurt Melanie if I did this without her permission. I find this completely ridiculous. They had an a brief, emotionally uninvolved romance. Julie pressed this so urgently that I agreed to consult Melanie before asking out the guy, and I suppose it isn't too much of an inconvenience since I doubt she'll refuse to allow me to date him, but I just find it unnecessary. Thoughts?

Go for it. The guy is NOT Melanie's property, and since they're no longer a couple, he is free to make his own decisions.

Besides, who decides whom you are and are not allowed to date? Are you going to let Melanie choose for you, or are you going make your own decisions?

I never asked for permission to date someone after they'd broken up with someone else -- rebound sex is the best!

It ranks right up there with make-up sex, so you'd better hurry before Melanie changes her mind, takes him back, and makes him hers, permanently!



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22 Sep 2012, 11:00 pm

SaraLane wrote:
My friend "Melanie" had a summer fling with a guy, and now that they've broken up, I've been thinking about pursuing the guy. I mentioned this to another friend, "Julie," and she said it would hurt Melanie if I did this without her permission. I find this completely ridiculous. They had an a brief, emotionally uninvolved romance. Julie pressed this so urgently that I agreed to consult Melanie before asking out the guy, and I suppose it isn't too much of an inconvenience since I doubt she'll refuse to allow me to date him, but I just find it unnecessary. Thoughts?
Are you really that heartless? you have to gave this guy out of the billions in the world?


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22 Sep 2012, 11:06 pm

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SaraLane wrote:
My friend "Melanie" had a summer fling with a guy, and now that they've broken up, I've been thinking about pursuing the guy. I mentioned this to another friend, "Julie," and she said it would hurt Melanie if I did this without her permission. I find this completely ridiculous. They had an a brief, emotionally uninvolved romance. Julie pressed this so urgently that I agreed to consult Melanie before asking out the guy, and I suppose it isn't too much of an inconvenience since I doubt she'll refuse to allow me to date him, but I just find it unnecessary. Thoughts?
Are you really that heartless? you have to gave this guy out of the billions in the world?

There's nothing heartless about it. Melanie and the guy broke up. He's free, she's free, the OP is free ... there is nothing wrong with expressing desire to someone who is not in a relationship.

Once two people break up, the relationship is over, and both are free to pursue other interests, or be pursued as someone else's interest.

It's not as if someone died, you see...


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22 Sep 2012, 11:17 pm

When I was in high school, there would have been nothing at all unusual about taking out a friend's ex.

Of course, my class was the biggest ever in the school -- more than twice as big as the several classes before or after -- we had 63 in the class. The odds were overwhelming that anyone you took out would have been a friend's ex.

Not that I ever actually took anyone out in high school.



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22 Sep 2012, 11:27 pm

You should ask "Melanie". You can be real casual. "Hey, melanie, would it be awkward if I started going out w/ (insert exes name here)?" You said she would probably be ok w/ it, so it is just a minor social convention that has the bonus of showing that you care about her feelings and the friendship between you. Seems harmless to me.



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23 Sep 2012, 12:01 am

Sure, you can ask ... but what to do if Melanie says, "Hands off"? Consider these questions:

1. Does Melanie give things away, expecting the recipient to do what she wants with those things?

2. Does Melanie object to seeing someone else in possession of something she tossed into a rummage bin?

3. Does Melanie break up with guys, only to come back later and pretend as if no break-up ever occurred?

If you can answer 'Yes' to at least one of these three questions, then maybe you'd be better off looking for another lover, as Melanie would seem to have boundary issues and an inability to let go of what's no longer hers.


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23 Sep 2012, 12:56 am

Fnord wrote:
wtfid2 wrote:
SaraLane wrote:
My friend "Melanie" had a summer fling with a guy, and now that they've broken up, I've been thinking about pursuing the guy. I mentioned this to another friend, "Julie," and she said it would hurt Melanie if I did this without her permission. I find this completely ridiculous. They had an a brief, emotionally uninvolved romance. Julie pressed this so urgently that I agreed to consult Melanie before asking out the guy, and I suppose it isn't too much of an inconvenience since I doubt she'll refuse to allow me to date him, but I just find it unnecessary. Thoughts?
Are you really that heartless? you have to gave this guy out of the billions in the world?

There's nothing heartless about it. Melanie and the guy broke up. He's free, she's free, the OP is free ... there is nothing wrong with expressing desire to someone who is not in a relationship.

Once two people break up, the relationship is over, and both are free to pursue other interests, or be pursued as someone else's interest.

It's not as if someone died, you see...
i agree that she has the right to pursue him as he is a free man, but what kind of friend does that crap? It wouldj just make Melanie the third wheel, and she would feel like crap seeing the together.
There are billions of men in this world, why does she need this one?


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