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23 Sep 2012, 10:00 pm

When NTs say that they have a hard time socializing too, do you think they are actually exagerating some what and actually don't have any idea how hard it really can be for an aspey? I feel that is the case a lot. What do you think?


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24 Sep 2012, 2:30 am

There can be NT's who are introverted, and may find that socializing doesn't come as easy to them as it does with more extroverted people. Their difficulties may not be as severe as someone with an ASD, but they may still exist to some extent.


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24 Sep 2012, 2:33 am

Nah, not really. It's just a different scale. Just like a poor person USA will claim they're poor, when they're not actually poor compared to a person in Africa or something.

The other thing too, someone can be NT and still have social anxiety, depression, and be introverted. Someone can have Aspergers and be relatively extroverted and outgoing, too.



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24 Sep 2012, 4:30 am

1000Knives wrote:
Nah, not really. It's just a different scale. Just like a poor person USA will claim they're poor, when they're not actually poor compared to a person in Africa or something.

The other thing too, someone can be NT and still have social anxiety, depression, and be introverted. Someone can have Aspergers and be relatively extroverted and outgoing, too.


I agree.

The first example you gave is what, in history, we call "relative poverty". So I suppose, NTs have "relative social difficulties" - not as severe as someone with AS, but significant nonetheless. In comparison with other 'socially-apt' NTs, that is.


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24 Sep 2012, 6:43 am

infilove wrote:
When NTs say that they have a hard time socializing too, do you think they are actually exagerating some what and actually don't have any idea how hard it really can be for an aspey? I feel that is the case a lot. What do you think?


Some NTs do have a very difficult time with socialising. For example: shyness, social anxiety, mental health problems, mutism, tourettes, disabilities and physical deformities are just some things that can make socialising very hard for NTs. Being NT isn't all walks in the park and sunshine when it comes to socialising.



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24 Sep 2012, 1:58 pm

1000Knives wrote:
Nah, not really. It's just a different scale. Just like a poor person USA will claim they're poor, when they're not actually poor compared to a person in Africa or something.

The other thing too, someone can be NT and still have social anxiety, depression, and be introverted. Someone can have Aspergers and be relatively extroverted and outgoing, too.


It kind of depends on where in africa, I would think since its a pretty big continent.


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24 Sep 2012, 2:16 pm

Don't want to sound harsh, but a lot of people should be shy. :|



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24 Sep 2012, 7:38 pm

Nobody's perfect :) yeah NT's can be shy, too.



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24 Sep 2012, 8:06 pm

Yeah I agree with what you guys said, they just struggle in relative to there extroverted peers. They dont truely struggle to the point where we do. Theres a difference between not nessarily being good at socialization vs. actually being socially impaired. See NTs for the most part dont really "try" in the social realm so whereever they fall, they fall. But for even the more socially awkward NTs, if they just really "tried" and worked hard to get out there and improve there socialization, they'll succeed mostly within a reasonable timeframe. Whereas us aspies, we can work out butts off all our lives and we it'll take us like 10x as long or we will die with social problems

I have a friend that I met on here who thought he was aspie, but later found out he had severe social anxiety. We was a socially awkward NT. And around that time when we talked a lot, both of us were trying to improve socially. I found that he was able to make about 4x the progress in the same amount of time as I was.



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24 Sep 2012, 9:13 pm

You can also have Aspergers and not have social anxiety and just have everyone think you're really weird all the time.



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25 Sep 2012, 7:23 am

They can be introverted, shy or even have social anxiety, too. Some of them probably are - there have been people in my school claiming they were oh-so-intrioverted but still they were always talking, joking and not even minding the ones around them.
But of course NTs can have serious trouble socializing, I think.



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25 Sep 2012, 8:16 am

My Dad is NT, but shy and introverted (not that they are the same). My Mum is probably on the spectrum, but extroverted and outgoing (and they are not the same either). I'd say my Dad struggles much more in social situations than my Mum does and it has affected him much more. My Mum's quite oblivious about how she sometimes comes across, so has never developed any social anxiety whatsover. She says what she thinks, no matter the consequences and doesn't even know she is the cause of upsets or arguments.


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25 Sep 2012, 12:26 pm

My mum works with a young girl who says she despises going to big social events, like dressing up, drinking, and mixing with youngsters she doesn't really want to mix with. I think she's sensible. She said she loves being at home on week-end nights, doing her own thing. She is not on the spectrum, though. In fact she is quite confident, but still only likes socialising in small doses. She spends a lot of time with her boyfriend, and they like saving up and going on holiday together and exploring different places. She's not really into all the glamour. And it does make me feel better knowing there are some NTs out there who also hate the things I hate. But coming from a family where everybody seems to like going out to clubs and bars when they were young (or the youngsters that go out now) makes me feel like I'm the only one who doesn't.

But I have a job now where I have to get up very early at week-ends, so it's sort of an excuse not to go out! I do know people who's reason for not going out is ''oh I have to get up really early for work'', and their reason gets understood by their mates.

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25 Sep 2012, 12:34 pm

infilove wrote:
When NTs say that they have a hard time socializing too, do you think they are actually exagerating some what and actually don't have any idea how hard it really can be for an aspey? I feel that is the case a lot. What do you think?


You have to realize "NT" is not a very useful term. In reality very few people are really "Neurotypical", and the range of social disorders and differences that affects human beings besides the autism spectrum is very large


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25 Sep 2012, 1:46 pm

Mummy_of_Peanut wrote:
My Dad is NT, but shy and introverted (not that they are the same). My Mum is probably on the spectrum, but extroverted and outgoing (and they are not the same either). I'd say my Dad struggles much more in social situations than my Mum does and it has affected him much more. My Mum's quite oblivious about how she sometimes comes across, so has never developed any social anxiety whatsover. She says what she thinks, no matter the consequences and doesn't even know she is the cause of upsets or arguments.


My dad is like your mom and my mom is like your dad. :)