If you all hate me so much maybe I'll just die

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16 Oct 2012, 8:18 pm

I just read a really inspirating article about how people should aceept Autistics more but the arrogant, worthless curebies couldn't for once stop being the as*holes they are could they? No, they had to post abusive coments and say "you have no right to condemn future genrations to this horrible disease". WELL WHO THE f**k ARE THEY TO SAY THAT? WHY DO NTS HATE US ALL SO MUCH? WHY DO THEY JUST WANT TO WIPE US FROM THR FACE OF THE f*****g PLANET? LETS BE ACEPTING AND NIVE BUT NO THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO MAKE US FEEL LIKE s**t DONT THEY NEVER ACTUA'LY TRY TO MALE US FELL GOOD ABOUT OURSELVES DO THEY? IF SOME AUTISTICS WANT TO BE CURED FINE BUT NTS DONT KNOW ME OR HOE ITHINK SO HOW f*****g DARE THOSE EVIL CUREBIE BASTARDS CONTROL US. WELL YOU KNOW WHAT FINE! IF YOU CUREBIES f*****g HATE US SO MUCH MAYBE ILL JUST f*****g KILL MYSELF. THERE, YOU HAPPY NOW? WHILE YOUR AT IT MAYBE YPU COULD ROUND UP THE REST AND PUT THEM IN f*****g GAS CHAMBERS BECAISE THATS WHAT YOU PEOPLE WANT ISNT IT? IM JUST SO f*****g TIRED OF THESE MONSTER TRYING TO C0NT4PL ME I JUST f*****g HATE YOOYCDHLQDDRJOL


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16 Oct 2012, 9:27 pm

I agree. I want to be seen as a person, whether or not I act and think the way they do. I just...if I keep typing I'll probably go on a rant, too.



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16 Oct 2012, 9:31 pm

I remember my days as a teenager. I was so filled with anger with how others treated me. Stick it out and things get better as you get older. But don't believe that it won't be tough either. Do your best to not listen to all the negative things said about autism and aspergers. Just focus on the positive and keep thinking that way. I know it's hard, but do your best.



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16 Oct 2012, 9:33 pm

Because "curing" autism is in the best interests for the collective NT comfort zone.

If you're that passionate about it, which upon first impression - you are, then change it.

Work to change it. Make it your special interest.

Killing yourself only achieves what they want.

The eradication of "abnormal" thinking.


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16 Oct 2012, 9:34 pm

What I hate is when they say we "suffer" from autism. Personally I do not suffer due to my autism. I suffer due to cruel, impatient, controlling treatment from NTs received because of my autism.

It's their fault I suffer, not the autism's fault. Therefore I conclude that the logical way to eliminate the indirect suffering caused due to autism would be to eliminate the direct source of the suffering: the NTs. :lol:

I speak flippantly, of course. Unlike them, I do not think it kind or ethical to attempt to alter somebody's neurological status, to make "them" be like "us," or commit genocide or mass abortion. Unlike them, I am not so mean and selfish that I consider that mine is the only neurological type that should be allowed to dominate society, and I do not feel I have the right to order everybody else to become like me. But they seem to think they have that right, don't they? :roll: It's not fair.



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16 Oct 2012, 9:38 pm

Plodder wrote:
What I hate is when they say we "suffer" from autism. Personally I do not suffer due to my autism. I suffer due to cruel, impatient, controlling treatment from NTs received because of my autism.

It's their fault I suffer, not the autism's fault. Therefore I conclude that the logical way to eliminate the indirect suffering caused due to autism would be to eliminate the direct source of the suffering: the NTs. :lol:

I speak flippantly, of course. Unlike them, I do not think it kind or ethical to attempt to alter somebody's neurological status, to make "them" be like "us," or commit genocide or mass abortion. Unlike them, I am not so mean and selfish that I consider that mine is the only neurological type that should be allowed to dominate society, and I do not feel I have the right to order everybody else to become like me. But they seem to think they have that right, don't they? :roll: It's not fair.



Amen! :cry: :D



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16 Oct 2012, 10:08 pm

I still do not get why people allow other people's comments to bother them so much. The person who posted that comment is obviously ignorant. Autism is NOT a disease. So, why getting mad about what an ignorant person can say or think? I have had this conversation with my Aspie husband and daughter several times. I just do not get why. I cant care less what people who obviously are worthless think about me. Thats THEIR problem. If they want to live misserable lives hating other people, let them be. I will be happy ignoring them.



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16 Oct 2012, 10:57 pm

I don't suffer from the autism itself, either. I suffer from the emotional pain that the NTs in my life have inflicted on me. I suffer from anxiety as well. My anxiety and depression has nothing to do with the autism itself. It only has to do with the emotionally abrasive ways that the NTs in my family and the education system, both teachers and students have treated me for the first 37 years of my life.

The only reason that I say 37 years, is because my mum only loved me in the way that she wanted to love me up to until a month ago around this time. I had to put my foot down and tell her to smarten up in a nice way. She now loves me as I am, instead of for what she thinks I could be. A flamboyant Kinks Fan Mod who thrives on a certain part of the 60s that's known as my Happy Place.

I still live for today in the present. If I didn't, I wouldn't be spending at least 6 hours a day on WP off and on. I'd be riding through Langley on a Vespa, instead. There's a big difference.


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16 Oct 2012, 11:07 pm

You gotta calm down, take a chill pill or something. That person has an opinion. You don't agree with it. That's how the world works. People have opinions all the time that I don't agree with, but I don't' go threatening to kill myself or making poor taste comments about rounding up aspies in gas chambers.

If you don't agree with an opinion, refute it. Argue against it. s**t I've had people tell me I'm a soldier of the devil because I believed in a position they didn't. I laughed at them with contempt and moved on.

That's all I'm going to say.



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16 Oct 2012, 11:49 pm

Ilka wrote:
I still do not get why people allow other people's comments to bother them so much. The person who posted that comment is obviously ignorant. Autism is NOT a disease. So, why getting mad about what an ignorant person can say or think? I have had this conversation with my Aspie husband and daughter several times. I just do not get why. I cant care less what people who obviously are worthless think about me. Thats THEIR problem. If they want to live misserable lives hating other people, let them be. I will be happy ignoring them.


I don't know... I think I'd rather be angry about it considering:
#1. They sometimes affect my life, make decisions that hurt me, hurt others, etc...
#2. It's hard to just see another person as completely worthless, and I don't think I would want to. It's especially hard when you know and care about people that might make "ignorant" comments. I want to respect and be treated with respect in return, ideally...

I've tried it before to get over the pain of a hurtful comment. I've thought "this person is just stupid and not worth thinking about", but it doesn't work for me...



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16 Oct 2012, 11:55 pm

A lot of them get angry at people who promote tolerance and acceptance of ASD because they have children on the spectrum who make their lives hell, and they want everyone to know what a horrible, terrible thing autism is because of what they've experienced.

I don't know how I know that...I guess from listening to people.

A lot of them also believe that those of us who are able to form coherent sentences are all self-diagnosed nerds who have no idea what "real" autism is...well, they're the ones who don't know what it is. It's very sad that they have children who they are treating like diseased, hopeless individuals. Understanding parents don't do this; they still treat their kids like human beings with potential, and don't look for "cures".



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17 Oct 2012, 1:20 am

Killing yourself proves nothing. Instead, live a good life, if for no other reason than to stick a giant middle finger in the eye of those who are intolerant of people on the spectrum.


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17 Oct 2012, 1:46 am

outofplace wrote:
Killing yourself proves nothing. Instead, live a good life, if for no other reason than to stick a giant middle finger in the eye of those who are intolerant of people on the spectrum.


HELL YEAH! LET'S DO THIS! xD



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17 Oct 2012, 1:49 am

Listen.. I've been there and I've thought about suicide so many times but it's really not the answer. Even thinking about it is not the answer. Those people you're talking about, the NTs and everyone else who treats you bad just because of one small part of who you are.. They win if you look down on yourself like that. That's embracing their outlook on you. Look inside, know who you are, know you're better than them and just give them a smile in return. I know it's hard but it's what works for me. And maybe it could work for you.



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17 Oct 2012, 11:38 am

I'm sorry for my outburst last night. I was on the verge of having a meltdown when I started this thread. I apologise for my comment about putting Autistic people into gas chambers. The spelling, grammar and punctuation in the OP is unbelievably atrocious too. Thank you for not mocking me.

It wasn't the person's characterization of Autism as a disease that upset me; I've learned to deal with that. What enraged me most of all was that the writer of the article apparently had "no right to condemn future generations" to the horror that is our presence. Very few comments were actually supportive of the author and her belief that Autistics should be accepted in society.

Although I strongly disagree with their opinions, the Autistics who want themselves "cured" are by no means bad people, but no Neurotypical has the right to decide what is best for me or any other Autistic, regardless of our preferences and opinions. How very dare they try to wipe an amazing group of people from the world!

Also, no Autistic has the right to tell any other Autistic that they should be "cured". If you want to view yourself in a negative way, go ahead, but don't you dare inflict said negative view upon the individuals on the spectrum who actually have some self-respect.

Again, I apologise for my overreaction, but I'm so, so tired of the Neurotypicals who think that it's okay to promote the neurological genocide and mass abortion of Autistic people. I mean, if we tried to create something that could convert Neurotypicals into Autistics, we'd probably be branded as insane terrorists, so, why should Autism Squeaks and it's flock be viewed differently?


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17 Oct 2012, 12:26 pm

It works both ways. If you expect them to be accepting of your stance on a possible cure, then you have to be accepting of their stance on one. Same with autistics who want a cure.

I'm for a cure, but I'm far from how you described "curebies". Cures are optional, you know. Look at life threatening illnesses like cancer and hepititis. People aren't forced to take a cure for that, although most do. People aren't forced to take a cure for most mental illnesses unless it causes them to harm others or themselves. An Autism cure would be an option for parents of yournger kids or for adult autistics to choose or not choose.

Their stance doesn't invalidate your's nor vice versa. I hate to see you get so upset when someone disagrees with you. No matter what you say, someone will always disagreee. You could say the sky is blue and look hard enough and find somebody to say it's orange. Don't let other's opinions bother you, especially if you plan on going into activism.


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