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20 Nov 2012, 11:30 pm

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20 Nov 2012, 11:34 pm

I thought that this was already banned everywhere.
Well anyway. That's one more step towards a more civil humanity.



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21 Nov 2012, 12:00 am

Yeah, I mean...I'm all for freedom of expression and that jazz but public nudity...nah. I'd probably have a panic attack if a naked guy ran up to me and wanted to have an ordinary conversation and who knows what sort of attack I'd have if it was a woman. Designated nude beaches are fine though...I'd never partake but I can respect people who are comfortable with their bodies. The exhibitionist side of it is a tad disturbing though.


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21 Nov 2012, 12:04 am

Not signed into law just yet, although since it's been a while since I lived anywhere close I don't exactly have a pulse on the city's executives or anything. It's probably noteworthy that the legislature passed it narrowly, pendnig signature by the Mayor of S.F.

And ... I wouldn't imagine it's banned "everywhere." Try Honduras :)



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21 Nov 2012, 1:06 am

I kind of have mixed feelings about it. Most of the nudists hung out (no pun intended) in a predominantly gay community. I mean, it's not like there's any kind of moral standards to uphold there. In other areas I can understand enforcing a law requiring a minimum of no exposed genitals, but the gay community and some beaches don't seem worth the effort.

You know how there are districts in some cities with names like Little Tokyo, Little China, Little Hanoi, Little Italy, etc, and you have some idea what kind of demographic to expect. Well I don't see why not legalize nudity in the Castro district but change the area's name to Little Sodom so people know what the demographics are like in the area and what to expect when they go over there!


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21 Nov 2012, 2:03 am

John_Browning wrote:
I kind of have mixed feelings about it. Most of the nudists hung out (no pun intended) in a predominantly gay community. I mean, it's not like there's any kind of moral standards to uphold there. In other areas I can understand enforcing a law requiring a minimum of no exposed genitals, but the gay community and some beaches don't seem worth the effort.


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21 Nov 2012, 11:25 am

You get used to it.



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21 Nov 2012, 11:38 am

I thought public nudity was one staple of SF. Oh well, I wonder what the residents think about that.


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21 Nov 2012, 1:53 pm

Aw. That has to be San Francisco's main tourist draw.

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22 Nov 2012, 2:24 am

John_Browning wrote:
I kind of have mixed feelings about it. Most of the nudists hung out (no pun intended) in a predominantly gay community. I mean, it's not like there's any kind of moral standards to uphold there. In other areas I can understand enforcing a law requiring a minimum of no exposed genitals, but the gay community and some beaches don't seem worth the effort.

You know how there are districts in some cities with names like Little Tokyo, Little China, Little Hanoi, Little Italy, etc, and you have some idea what kind of demographic to expect. Well I don't see why not legalize nudity in the Castro district but change the area's name to Little Sodom so people know what the demographics are like in the area and what to expect when they go over there!


It could be argued that Red States could be renamed Crackerland, so people will know what to expect when they go there.

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22 Nov 2012, 3:49 am

I agree with this. I visited Castro district before having surgery and these old, wrinkly men were naked. Worse, there were children coming out from school. I don't want them to see some guy's swang or gal's vag and neither do their parents.

Having people, especially men, be naked makes people uncomfortable.



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22 Nov 2012, 12:56 pm

Someone with no concept of social boundaries has no right to claim that they are being treated unfairly, if the law of the jungle does not favor their their cause, but the idea of same sex attractions and gender play doesn't personally make me violent or fearful.

I consider it kink or paraphilia, do not believe it should interfere without our heteronormative commitments, much less to the extent that it would be forced upon the disinterested.

Keep in mind that, at the root of exhibitionism, is obligatory participation.

It never stopped at nudity. Some have also demanded public sex.

In those past examples of Biblical destruction, they were not only being swishy, but obliging onlookers to participate.



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22 Nov 2012, 1:15 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
Someone with no concept of social boundaries has no right to claim that they are being treated unfairly, if the law of the jungle does not favor their their cause, but the idea of same sex attractions and gender play doesn't personally make me violent or fearful.

I consider it kink or paraphilia, do not believe it should interfere without our heteronormative commitments, much less to the extent that it would be forced upon the disinterested.

Keep in mind that, at the root of exhibitionism, is obligatory participation.

It never stopped at nudity. Some have also demanded public sex.

In those past examples of Biblical destruction, they were not only being swishy, but obliging onlookers to participate.


If you're referring to Sodom and Gomorrah, contrary to modern homophobic theological views, the sin was not in itself homosexuality - but that they were raping people to death!

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22 Nov 2012, 1:38 pm

(Pardon my grammatical errors.)

I want to make clear that I am not homophobic but do believe there are differences between the sexes.

Of which I am aware, no allowances are made for heteronormativity, in the LBGT "community," so that closeted dalliances are, for all intents and purposes, impractical.

As far as I'm concerned, you would have to be fairly open and notorious, to be accepted.

friedmacguffins wrote:
...obliging onlookers to participate.


If that's not a slippery slope, I don't know what is.

Kraichgauer wrote:
If you're referring to Sodom and Gomorrah, contrary to modern homophobic theological views, the sin was not in itself homosexuality - but that they were raping people to death!


Animals unwilling to suckle Bacchanalians were consumed on the spot.

Jude 1:7(KJV) wrote:
...Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange ("heteros," of a different order) flesh, are set forth for an example...


Revelers were in pursuit of novelty, in this case, those angels which came to warn Lot.



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22 Nov 2012, 1:43 pm

Public nudity ... hmm ...

When it seems that only a few weeks out of the year are warm enough to go outside in San Francisco without a sweater, banning public nudity there seems a moot point.

May as well ban rain gear in Death Valley during July.


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22 Nov 2012, 1:56 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
(Pardon my grammatical errors.)

I want to make clear that I am not homophobic but do believe there are differences between the sexes.

Of which I am aware, no allowances are made for heteronormativity, in the LBGT "community," so that closeted dalliances are, for all intents and purposes, impractical.

As far as I'm concerned, you would have to be fairly open and notorious, to be accepted.

friedmacguffins wrote:
...obliging onlookers to participate.


If that's not a slippery slope, I don't know what is.

Kraichgauer wrote:
If you're referring to Sodom and Gomorrah, contrary to modern homophobic theological views, the sin was not in itself homosexuality - but that they were raping people to death!


Animals unwilling to suckle Bacchanalians were consumed on the spot.

Jude 1:7(KJV) wrote:
...Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange ("heteros," of a different order) flesh, are set forth for an example...


Revelers were in pursuit of novelty, in this case, those angels which came to warn Lot.


Well, I'd personally would prefer to eat an animal than to suckle with it.

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