The pros and cons to there being a cure to Autism.

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18 Jan 2013, 6:45 am

Pros:
1. Regardless of what some people say, there are some Autistic who would die for a cure. There's nothing wrong with them wanting a cure, and they don't mean it in an offensive way to Autistic people.
2. Some folks with severe or low functioning Autism (whichever you prefer to call it) could use a cure since they have none of the positives, and since they are still sitting in their high chairs while they are struggling with things that make it so their social deficits are the least of their worries.
3. Social security insurance would be open to more people.
4. Families would be happier in some cases, and I'm unsure if that's a positive or a negative in this case.
5. There would be less aid needed for them.
6. The word 'Autism' would be thrown around less as an insult.
7. There would be more room in the special classrooms.

Cons:
1. Regardless of what some people say, there are Autistic people who would die to remain Autistic. There's nothing wrong with them not wanting a cure, and they don't mean it an offensive way to neurotypicals.
2. In the end, the neurotypicals would win since their ignorance will have gotten them what they've wanted and they will have not learned to accept peoples differences. Also, the neurotypicals will still be ignorant in the end.
3. There will be people and family members forcing these folks to grab a cure when the Autistic person is happy with who they are.
4. Regardless of what ignorant people say, Autism is not a disease or a virus. It's a gift if you can make the best of it, and it's a difference, and it can also be a disability (depending on how you have it). I heard people say that Autism is contagious and that it spreads from people getting anywhere near the Autistic people in our neighborhood. This just proves how ignorant and foolish people are since Autism is not a real disease that kills people like Anthrax is that can be contagious. A disability is usually much better to have than a disease (no offense to the people with diseases). Autism is nothing like an infectious disease that impairs your health, and it's not comparable with any deadly disease.
5. Some people with Autism may lose their giftedness since I do believe that Autism/Asperger's Syndrome can be a cause of genius (it isn't always that way, but there are plenty of genius's with Autism).
6. Why does it matter if people are socially awkward? If society wasn't so harsh on Autistic folks, if people would quit bullying them for being different and if people would learn to accept them then they would probably do better socially and learn more.
7. I believe that Autism can be a disability or just a part of who somebody is. Sure, it can make people non-verbal or to the point where they can have social deficits, but I believe that people could overcome these weaknesses with effort and with aid since weaknesses are just something that you have to work on.
8. While some folks with Autism can have weak attention spans (sometimes Autism causes it, and other times it's from ADHD), there are folks who can focus on things for many hours straight due to their Autism who could accomplish practically anything from it. People may lose this from a cure.
9. The people who enjoy working with Autistic people around may not be employed if there are far fewer Autistic folks around because of a cure. They enjoy working with these folks for a reason and not because of the fact that it gives them cash.
10. You could kiss the Autism culture goodbye if there is a cure, and everybody will be neurotypical in the actual world with being a human being that could be flawed to the point where they're practically unlikeable.
11. A lot of people like Autistic people better than neurotypicals.
12. Some jobs are specifically designed for Autistic people, and we would have far fewer people who would be cut out for this if there were less Autistics.

I have nothing against neurotypicals in general, but I despise the ignorant ones. I seriously think that a cure is unnecessary, but it wouldn't hurt if it was only for the ones who wanted to have it.



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18 Jan 2013, 8:03 am

I suspect that a cure, if one is found, will have to be while the mother is pregnant with the fetus.



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18 Jan 2013, 12:17 pm

I am not sure how you can "cure" abnormalities in brain structure, this is not a disease as you have said yourself, this is a developmental disorder...



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18 Jan 2013, 12:21 pm

Dreycrux wrote:
I am not sure how you can "cure" abnormalities in brain structure, this is not a disease, this is a developmental disorder...


Neurlogical difference, not disorder.


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18 Jan 2013, 12:22 pm

AgentPalpatine wrote:
Dreycrux wrote:
I am not sure how you can "cure" abnormalities in brain structure, this is not a disease, this is a developmental disorder...


Neurlogical difference, not disorder.


Difference? what...is that to make yourself feel better?



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18 Jan 2013, 12:35 pm

equally it could be said you are calling it a disorder to make yourself and or others feel worse



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18 Jan 2013, 12:39 pm

answeraspergers wrote:
equally it could be said you are calling it a disorder to make yourself and or others feel worse


Calling it a disorder? IT IS A DISORDER. I'm just not delusional.



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18 Jan 2013, 12:48 pm

almost everyone is delusional in some areas of the belief system.

As the condition or whatever term you wish to use is not widely understood it makes little sense to judge it.

Im AS and apparently that doesnt exist so I'm not included - under the DSM model.



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18 Jan 2013, 12:54 pm

answeraspergers wrote:
almost everyone is delusional in some areas of the belief system.

As the condition or whatever term you wish to use is not widely understood it makes little sense to judge it.

Im AS and apparently that doesnt exist so I'm not included - under the DSM model.


Why do you think you wont meet the new criteria? are you going to be retested when DSM 5 is available?



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18 Jan 2013, 12:56 pm

I dont think the new DSM is out yet so I'm not able to do that just yet.

But imo - no. I dont. Maybe it will be SCD instead.

"gayness" was a disorder not too long ago. some still agree but many do not.



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18 Jan 2013, 12:57 pm

I'd say that it's impossible to talk about the cons and pros before there's a cure. If you by cure mean to alter the brain development in an early stage to make it "neurotypical", the question could be phrased as: "What's the pros/cons of having aspergers".

I don't see the cons in general of improving ones social skills.



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18 Jan 2013, 1:05 pm

you totally changed your question in the edit.

i should start quoting



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18 Jan 2013, 1:08 pm

Where do these facts come from?



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18 Jan 2013, 1:13 pm

I wouldn't want a cure for myself. Yes, it has made my life much more difficult but at this point, I am who I am because of what I have experienced by living with this little thang.

People are not just a single event or single moment. We are an amalgamation of countless laughs, tears, pains, pleasures, EVERYTHING makes someone who they are. Everyone has a personal thing, be it love for another, hatred, vile and venom, etc, that makes them who they are as it adds the most to the soup.

That THING makes you who you are today. To remove it is to essentially make the person that you are, right now, not exist. It would be a Total Recall moment.

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18 Jan 2013, 1:15 pm

answeraspergers wrote:
you totally changed your question in the edit.

i should start quoting


I thought I should reword it to get more insight, I wanted to know if you were going to be retested when the DSM 5 becomes available and why you figure you don't fit the criteria or that you wont "Get in".



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18 Jan 2013, 1:26 pm

stevenjacksonftw7 wrote:
1. Regardless of what some people say, there are some Autistic who would die for a cure. There's nothing wrong with them wanting a cure, and they don't mean it in an offensive way to Autistic people.
2. Some folks with severe or low functioning Autism (whichever you prefer to call it) could use a cure since they have none of the positives, and since they are still sitting in their high chairs while they are struggling with things that make it so their social deficits are the least of their worries.

This is the point.
When someone talks about a cure for autism, I only see aspies/people with HFA saying "No, we don't need a cure", but I've never seen a single person with MFA/LFA against finding a cure for autism. Do someone ever asks to people with MFA/LFA wheter they want to be cured or not? I've never seen someone doing so. Society ignores the will of people with MFA/LFA, just because because they're less likely to be listened. No one seems to care of their opinion. I think they should be listened more than everybody else, because they have such a severe form of autism that makes their life almost, ot totally, impossible. I saw children with extreme LFA that were totally isolated from the world, they couldn't speak, they couldn't use gestures or expressions to communicate, they couldn't write, and they passed the whole day seated on a chair staring at the wall in front of them, and they seemed not to hear or see anything. No one seems to consider them, since nowdays the typical autism stereotype is autistic=AS/HFA, and very few people seem to still consider people with severe forms.
About me, I don't know, and I don't think about a cure for autism. I will think about it when the cure will be found, if one will ever be found. I'm neutral for now.