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24 Feb 2013, 12:09 pm

From "Revelation 13 Website":

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March 2013. Comet C/2011 L4 PANSTARRS could be a very bright comet in March 2013. Since it was discovered in Hawaii it could relate to President Obama, who was born in Hawaii, possibly President Obama could improve the economy or make progress in an international crisis in March 2013. Note that the movie "Oz the Great and Powerful" opens March 8 2013, about a wizard from Kansas with great powers of magic. Note that President Obama has roots in Kansas through his mother. Could President Obama do some great wizardry in March 2013, will President Obama be the Wizard of Oz? Is Hillary the Good Witch?

So, the nutters are trying to connect comets, President Obama, Hawaii, The Wizard of Oz, wizardry, witchcraft, and Hillary Clinton all in one paragraph. There are many more along similar lines of "reasoning".

Something I've noticed with this website over time is that its most accurate "prophesies" are back-dated; that is, they seem to best fit their prophesies to recent events after those events have already happened.

Take note of future prophesies that you may see there, and then come back in a few month to see if they've been "corrected".

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24 Feb 2013, 3:57 pm

And here, ladies and gentlemen, is a first-rate example of nonsensical logic, which is only logical to those who are not logical.



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24 Feb 2013, 4:13 pm

Here's why we need to fix our educational system. Poor education is going to make stupid people and stupid people armed with Google are the worst kind of stupid.



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24 Feb 2013, 4:17 pm

I may spend time to myself thinking up random things, but the fact they're taking it seriously... :P



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24 Feb 2013, 4:48 pm

Pileo wrote:
Here's why we need to fix our educational system. Poor education is going to make stupid people and stupid people armed with Google are the worst kind of stupid.

Being stupid or uneducated doesn't on its own make these theorist. This is a common misconception.

Prophesy hacks/conspiracy theorist have a pathology. They think in a certain way. They are not super rational and tend to rely on assumption chaining.

There a many people who should know better, who are drawn to these sorts of theories.

Magical thinking is part of a spectrum, it firmly part of our neurology, people like you an me not so much, but it is not abnormal, on the contrary.

If you consider that that creative side of the brain help people regulate their thoughts. You may be analyzing, but at some point you have to break, and come to a conclusion (because analysis can always continue). This is overactive in some people, they suspend disbelief to offen, and have difficulty with deductive thinking, and tend to follow a more creative thinking.

It is not the same thing as them being stupid. You have heard of cognitive dissonance. Even people like Newton, were not immune from magical thinking. You can be brilliant on the one hand, and on the other hand get mixed up in pretty outlandish theories.



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25 Feb 2013, 11:33 am

Prophecies of doom are right! Prophecies of birth / rebirth are right because history points out death comes to everything as does (re)birth. There are only so many ways you can dress the human body or make music, without coming back to the same start point and while entropy rules, once you start off on the slippery path of entrance into this world, we also see new bodies, new vehicles, new inventions coming out of people's minds and bodies.

So yes, they'll be a new heaven and a new Earth but likewise they'll be an old Earth dying and an old hell, to experience as change evolves socially or bodily, for each individual. That's the logic of it all.



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25 Feb 2013, 12:18 pm

So what are they going to do if the world does end? Stick out their tongues and say "I told you so!" :?:



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25 Feb 2013, 2:36 pm

Fnord wrote:
From "Revelation 13 Website":

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March 2013. Comet C/2011 L4 PANSTARRS could be a very bright comet in March 2013. Since it was discovered in Hawaii it could relate to President Obama, who was born in Hawaii, possibly President Obama could improve the economy or make progress in an international crisis in March 2013. Note that the movie "Oz the Great and Powerful" opens March 8 2013, about a wizard from Kansas with great powers of magic. Note that President Obama has roots in Kansas through his mother. Could President Obama do some great wizardry in March 2013, will President Obama be the Wizard of Oz? Is Hillary the Good Witch?

So, the nutters are trying to connect comets, President Obama, Hawaii, The Wizard of Oz, wizardry, witchcraft, and Hillary Clinton all in one paragraph. There are many more along similar lines of "reasoning".

Something I've noticed with this website over time is that its most accurate "prophesies" are back-dated; that is, they seem to best fit their prophesies to recent events after those events have already happened.

Take note of future prophesies that you may see there, and then come back in a few month to see if they've been "corrected".

:roll:
They don't know that the yellow brick road really means the gold standard and the wizard of oz is an alegory to the economics of the 1890s I read a book in N Gregory Mankiws intro econ textbook that was a sidebar and showed that it happened. It has nothing to do with Obama at all becuase this was a book before Obama was born in the orginal. Although a comet might bring out dust in the solar wind.



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25 Feb 2013, 3:47 pm

paigetheoracle wrote:
Prophecies of doom are right!

:roll:

Evidence, please?

1843: The Millerites. William Miller, a New England farmer, predicted the world would end between March 21, 1843, and March 21, 1844. The date was later changed to April 23, 1843. Thousands of followers went with him down this path and they all, for better or for worse, lived to see the light at the end of the rabbit hole. Some of the "Millerites" went on to form the Seventh Day Adventists.

1910: Halley's Comet. A fear spread through the media and populous that the Earth would pass through the tail end of Halley's comet in 1910 and that the End Times would be triggered.

1982: Pat Robertson. Televangelist Pat Robertson, from Virginia, told his "700 Club" TV audience that he knew when the world would end. In fact, he guaranteed that end to be 1982.

1994: Pastor John Hinkle. In 1994, John Hinkle, from California, predicted that the Biblical End Times would be upon us as of June 9, 1994.

1997: Heaven's Gate. San Diego's UFO cult, Heaven's Gate, concluded that the Hale-Bopp comet's falsely reported tail-end UFO was a signal that the world would end soon. All 39 members committed suicide on March 26, 1997.

2000: Y2K. People have long speculated the influence technology might have over the end of mankind and during the months leading up to the year 2000, these theories were everywhere. Nuclear holocaust and worldwide blackouts were just some of the End Times predictions made related to Y2K.

2000: Icy End. Richard Noone wrote a book in 1997 titled "5/5/2000 Ice: the Ultimate Disaster" and the idea took on, for some. He predicted we would suffer an icy death cued by the aligning of the heavens.

2008: Biblical End Times. The minister of God's Church, Ronald Weinland, predicted in a 2006 book that 2008 would see the end of the world. Weinland went on to predict that the real date was May 27, 2012.

2011: Harold Camping. A radio minister from California, Harold Camping, predicted in May 2011 that the End Times would begin on May 21, 2011, and that the world would totally end on October 21, 2011.

2012: Mayan Calendar. According to many websites, the Mayans predicted that the world would end on December 22, 2012. Many of these websites were also selling a lot of "Doomsday Survival Gear".

Here is a more complete list of doomsday prophesies that goes all the way back to the year 634 B.C.

Obviously, none of these so-called "Doomsday Prophesies" were right! The doomsayers were either deluded or deliberately lying to their followers, no doubt about it.


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25 Feb 2013, 4:16 pm

Most of the religious people on TBN were predicting the Rapture back in the 90s. John Hagee said he'd be surprised if the Rapture hadn't occurred by 2004. Hal Lindsay was another phony Armageddon prophet. Doom prophesies are a way for them to make money.



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25 Feb 2013, 4:48 pm

Telekon wrote:
Most of the religious people on TBN were predicting the Rapture back in the 90s. John Hagee said he'd be surprised if the Rapture hadn't occurred by 2004. Hal Lindsay was another phony Armageddon prophet. Doom prophesies are a way for them to make money.


The people who fall for specific claims for the Christian end times are just gullible. It says in the bible that only God knows that, not humans.



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25 Feb 2013, 7:31 pm

paigetheoracle wrote:
Prophecies of doom are right! Prophecies of birth / rebirth are right because history points out death comes to everything as does (re)birth. There are only so many ways you can dress the human body or make music, without coming back to the same start point and while entropy rules, once you start off on the slippery path of entrance into this world, we also see new bodies, new vehicles, new inventions coming out of people's minds and bodies.

So yes, they'll be a new heaven and a new Earth but likewise they'll be an old Earth dying and an old hell, to experience as change evolves socially or bodily, for each individual. That's the logic of it all.


What? I don't understand what you're saying.

Dragoness wrote:
And here, ladies and gentlemen, is a first-rate example of nonsensical logic, which is only logical to those who are not logical.


Here is yet another example of nonsensical logic, ladies and gentlemen. (No offense, paigetheoracle.)



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25 Feb 2013, 7:32 pm

Fnord wrote:
paigetheoracle wrote:
Prophecies of doom are right!

:roll:

Evidence, please?

1843: The Millerites. William Miller, a New England farmer, predicted the world would end between March 21, 1843, and March 21, 1844. The date was later changed to April 23, 1843. Thousands of followers went with him down this path and they all, for better or for worse, lived to see the light at the end of the rabbit hole. Some of the "Millerites" went on to form the Seventh Day Adventists.

1910: Halley's Comet. A fear spread through the media and populous that the Earth would pass through the tail end of Halley's comet in 1910 and that the End Times would be triggered.

1982: Pat Robertson. Televangelist Pat Robertson, from Virginia, told his "700 Club" TV audience that he knew when the world would end. In fact, he guaranteed that end to be 1982.

1994: Pastor John Hinkle. In 1994, John Hinkle, from California, predicted that the Biblical End Times would be upon us as of June 9, 1994.

1997: Heaven's Gate. San Diego's UFO cult, Heaven's Gate, concluded that the Hale-Bopp comet's falsely reported tail-end UFO was a signal that the world would end soon. All 39 members committed suicide on March 26, 1997.

2000: Y2K. People have long speculated the influence technology might have over the end of mankind and during the months leading up to the year 2000, these theories were everywhere. Nuclear holocaust and worldwide blackouts were just some of the End Times predictions made related to Y2K.

2000: Icy End. Richard Noone wrote a book in 1997 titled "5/5/2000 Ice: the Ultimate Disaster" and the idea took on, for some. He predicted we would suffer an icy death cued by the aligning of the heavens.

2008: Biblical End Times. The minister of God's Church, Ronald Weinland, predicted in a 2006 book that 2008 would see the end of the world. Weinland went on to predict that the real date was May 27, 2012.

2011: Harold Camping. A radio minister from California, Harold Camping, predicted in May 2011 that the End Times would begin on May 21, 2011, and that the world would totally end on October 21, 2011.

2012: Mayan Calendar. According to many websites, the Mayans predicted that the world would end on December 22, 2012. Many of these websites were also selling a lot of "Doomsday Survival Gear".

Here is a more complete list of doomsday prophesies that goes all the way back to the year 634 B.C.

Obviously, none of these so-called "Doomsday Prophesies" were right! The doomsayers were either deluded or deliberately lying to their followers, no doubt about it.


Exactly. Thank you, Fnord!