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TrainofLove
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09 Apr 2013, 10:37 am

When I read hear about people having social issues, stimming, obsessions etc... I sort of look in disbelief.

I mean, I have aspegers, I'm not the greatest at socialising, I enjoy being alone, I love music, but I don't seem to have all these excessive issues you's have.

I mean, I used to, in a dark time of my life, be "typical" aspergers weird. But now, i'm always mistaken as a normal guy, I mean, at my course (my current form of education before polytech) I get along fine with all the druggy's and "popular" people. They haven't got a problem with me, and vise versa.

I guess you could read this as a success story? I dunno. "Is there anybody out there" (pink floyd reference) that's similar?


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09 Apr 2013, 10:57 am

Two Things:

1) As least for me, there are seasons when it's stronger and it's more noticeable. Fatigue is a massive influence on this.
2) It appears to be one of those things that we might just not be able to tell with any level of certainty whether we are, in fact, being aspergy. I notice that when I am in a good mood I think I am less aspergy than when I am in a bad mood. However in both cases I am likely acting the same.

Adaption happens but, at the end of the day, it's still there.

Go to a packed supermarket alone for a few hours and see how you feel.


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09 Apr 2013, 11:22 am

TrainofLove wrote:
When I read hear about people having social issues, stimming, obsessions etc... I sort of look in disbelief.

I mean, I have aspegers, I'm not the greatest at socialising, I enjoy being alone, I love music, but I don't seem to have all these excessive issues you's have.

I mean, I used to, in a dark time of my life, be "typical" aspergers weird. But now, i'm always mistaken as a normal guy, I mean, at my course (my current form of education before polytech) I get along fine with all the druggy's and "popular" people. They haven't got a problem with me, and vise versa.

I guess you could read this as a success story? I dunno. "Is there anybody out there" (pink floyd reference) that's similar?


Ah, Benny Hill. A likely aspie. Never married or known to have been in a relationship and kept totally to himself, "preferring his own company".

Autism has many levels. Some people like you are on the top floor. Others are down in the basement. Many others anywhere in between.

Stimming really does pertain to more severe autism. It's not a tick or nervous habit. It's to compensate for lack of location awareness to stay grounded. It's a compensator for a severe neurological deficiency. I don't see any reason why anyone with Aspergers or HFA would need to stim.



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09 Apr 2013, 11:23 am

slapdash wrote:
Go to a packed supermarket alone for a few hours and see how you feel.


Exactly. I'd be running and screaming out of there.



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09 Apr 2013, 11:27 am

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Ah, Benny Hill. a likely aspie. Never married or known to have been in a relationship and kept totally to himself, "preferring his own company".


Yep :D That's why he's my idol, as I can "connect" with him if that makes sense. He was also, like me, very frugal with money, pinching every penny and only buying what he needed.

I also think he could of had aspergers.


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09 Apr 2013, 12:13 pm

briankelley wrote:
TrainofLove wrote:
When I read hear about people having social issues, stimming, obsessions etc... I sort of look in disbelief.

I mean, I have aspegers, I'm not the greatest at socialising, I enjoy being alone, I love music, but I don't seem to have all these excessive issues you's have.

I mean, I used to, in a dark time of my life, be "typical" aspergers weird. But now, i'm always mistaken as a normal guy, I mean, at my course (my current form of education before polytech) I get along fine with all the druggy's and "popular" people. They haven't got a problem with me, and vise versa.

I guess you could read this as a success story? I dunno. "Is there anybody out there" (pink floyd reference) that's similar?


Ah, Benny Hill. A likely aspie. Never married or known to have been in a relationship and kept totally to himself, "preferring his own company".

Autism has many levels. Some people like you are on the top floor. Others are down in the basement. Many others anywhere in between.

Stimming really does pertain to more severe autism. It's not a tick or nervous habit. It's to compensate for lack of location awareness to stay grounded. It's a compensator for a severe neurological deficiency. I don't see any reason why anyone with Aspergers or HFA would need to stim.


My son is constantly in motion - mostly hand flapping, head banging and hair twirling. He also has verbal stims - squeaking mostly.

He has a diagnosis of Asperger's.



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09 Apr 2013, 12:24 pm

Benny (Ima call you Benny), I'm in a similar boat.

I don't really stim unless I'm severely anxious, and otherwise I don't feel terribly asperger-y. But I am diagnosed, and very recently, and by all accounts, my story is one of progressive improvement from a kid to today. As it stands, I still get really socially anxious, I still have anxiety problems, and I still have a lot of difficulty engaging people. A lot of people I know just thought of me as "lovably eccentric," to quote a friend of mine from college, but the basic structure of HFA/ASD/Aspergers, or whatever you want to call it, was there: a lack of understanding of the back-and-forth of conversation, a history of anxiety problems, trouble making and keeping friends, difficulty engaging in age-appropriate social groups, difficulty understanding, expressing, and articulating my own emotions, difficulty reading body language, and that near-constant feeling of being lost in groups of people, where things seemed to be happening around me, even as I tried to participate.

Most of these are things I couldn't have articulated until I started reading about Asperger's. I knew I wasn't normal, but I always just thought I was sort of a weird guy. I never felt like I was *different*, ya know? Never felt aspergery. But it's there all the same.



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09 Apr 2013, 12:26 pm

I do not think I would ever use the word 'aspergery' to describe myself....I certainly struggle with issues associated with it, but I think I will stick to terms like autism spectrum or aspergers syndrome.


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09 Apr 2013, 12:44 pm

I don't feel "aspergery" except for when I'm talking to/arguing with NTs and they use a construction that I don't understand. There are two extremely disrespectful girls that I'm "arguing" with and they both insist on insulting me at every corner. It's getting on my nerves.



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09 Apr 2013, 12:55 pm

TrainofLove wrote:
When I read hear about people having social issues, stimming, obsessions etc... I sort of look in disbelief.

I mean, I have aspegers, I'm not the greatest at socialising, I enjoy being alone, I love music, but I don't seem to have all these excessive issues you's have.

I mean, I used to, in a dark time of my life, be "typical" aspergers weird. But now, i'm always mistaken as a normal guy, I mean, at my course (my current form of education before polytech) I get along fine with all the druggy's and "popular" people. They haven't got a problem with me, and vise versa.

I guess you could read this as a success story? I dunno. "Is there anybody out there" (pink floyd reference) that's similar?


Schizoids don't stim, and they can get mistaken for aspies.
So no aspie could ever "get along with druggy's". You don't think someone on the spectrum can do drugs either? Maybe your perception of what aspies are is wrong. Or rather, the literature is wrong on many levels.



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09 Apr 2013, 1:15 pm

I'm convinced I don't actually have AS and was merely made to fit the label by the psychologist evaluating me, and that I should have been diagnosed with NVLD instead. I know there can be some overlap between the two, but I feel more "at home" in the NVLD category than I do the Autistic Spectrum, which is so vague it could apply to almost anyone with a neurological difference. It's one of the reasons I don't post much on these forums anymore; I often feel like a hybrid, neither NT nor Autistic, just a gray cloud of confusion.

In short, I empathize with you, OP.



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09 Apr 2013, 1:17 pm

seatbeltblue wrote:
Benny (Ima call you Benny)


:lol: If you wish.

Anomiel wrote:
Schizoids don't stim, and they can get mistaken for aspies.
So no aspie could ever "get along with druggy's". You don't think someone on the spectrum can do drugs either? Maybe your perception of what aspies are is wrong. Or rather, the literature is wrong on many levels.


I personally am drug free and have never done drugs. What i'm trying to say is I am able to still "get along" with them. Sort of, there's a wee bit of awkwardness (because i'm not into drugs and it's mostly what they talk about), but it's not like they're some type of "alien" creature.

What's a Schizoid?


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09 Apr 2013, 5:13 pm

Its not how aspergery (or aspergerish) you feel. Its whether or not you are in aspergetory!



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09 Apr 2013, 5:30 pm

briankelley wrote:
Stimming really does pertain to more severe autism. It's not a tick or nervous habit. It's to compensate for lack of location awareness to stay grounded. It's a compensator for a severe neurological deficiency. I don't see any reason why anyone with Aspergers or HFA would need to stim.


Many people with very mild autism have a lack of location awareness and stim to stay grounded. It is not always a severe neurological deficiency.



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09 Apr 2013, 5:38 pm

TrainofLove wrote:
When I read hear about people having social issues, stimming, obsessions etc... I sort of look in disbelief.

I mean, I have aspergers, I'm not the greatest at socialising, I enjoy being alone, I love music, but I don't seem to have all these excessive issues you's have.

I mean, I used to, in a dark time of my life, be "typical" aspergers weird. But now, i'm always mistaken as a normal guy, I mean, at my course (my current form of education before polytech) I get along fine with all the druggy's and "popular" people. They haven't got a problem with me, and vise versa.

I guess you could read this as a success story? I dunno. "Is there anybody out there" (pink floyd reference) that's similar?
I'm similar to you in that I get on with most people generally, and that I don't appear to have the problems that a lot of people with Asperger's have, but I still know I have AS; from the views and experiences the people close to me have had with me- both in childhood and now, make me more sure of it.

...and, when you say that you don't feel or seem "Aspergery" or seem this way to others, it's probably because you have developed coping mechanisms or ways of "fitting in" with others- in other words, you still have AS, but you are just better at hiding it...this is what happens to a lot of girls/women- like myself- who are diagnosed later in life.


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09 Apr 2013, 6:27 pm

slapdash wrote:
Go to a packed supermarket alone for a few hours and see how you feel.


I saw this and laughed!

I sometimes wonder myself for all of the same reasons. Then I'll respond to a question or something and get ten seconds of silence back. Its always a warm reminder when a room full of people have no clue what you're saying half the time.