Some food for thought on bullying

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“Why Bullying is Great”

I read the first sentence and the things it makes me want to do aren't pleasant , but I suppose I know it is pretty much built into society but I see it as a bad thing, its part of what makes it such a sick f*****ing society. I am sure bullying works great for the people that don't develop mental issues from it that they get to live with for their life.

Yeah that article describes everything wrong in society....the author can go shove their head back up their ass where it belongs.

The thing is, these ideas may be unpleasant, but I don’t think they can be rationally proven wrong. No matter what we do, we can’t really escape the law of jungle. Sometimes the truth just hurts.

Yes some of it is true, why do you think I hate this society......that article just describes the problem I have with society except its from the perspective of someone who thinks these flaws are a good thing. Yeah a lot of bullies make it to the top and climb the corporate ladder or get into the government.............and the worlds pretty f****d up what does that tell you? To me it says there is something wrong.

I also don't buy the pseudo-survival of the fittest crap, if anything I'd say its the people that have to harras someone else or try to make them feel like sh*t about themselves that are weak..........so weak they can't stand on their own and need support from other bullies and have to inflate themselves by hurting others. So defend it if you like but I am sticking to there is no justification for bullying.

When I was in elementary and high school I had to put up with bullying. Today, I pity the fool who would make such a foolish mistake. Bullying serves NO purpose in society. The statistic that 96% of teens are bullies is pure hogwash. People achieve great things in life without being bullied. Does the little boy next door need to be bullied to be a composer, coporate lawyer, endocrinologist or rocket scientist? Of course not, but I'll gladly laugh in the face of a bully as they sit homeless in the street begging for money because they accomplished nothing in life. Bullied people don't all become successes. Some develop psychological issues that plague them the rest of their lives. Bullies - waste of valuable air.

I don't think bullies make up the majority of the homeless, the trouble is society is set up in such a way bullies do get somewhere in life. Like the article so kindly points out a lot of successful people got there through bullying, using other people and being 'the fittest'. There is nothing in society that really makes things hard for bullies in fact sometimes its quite the contrary.

Well, then I will also write off as "the law of the jungle" when some MFer beats the s*** out of that guy or kills him.

I sincerely hope that is he is murdered someday.

I like to think that we can learn to rise above such cruelty. We may have come a long way with respect to human rights, but we still have a very long way to go (and no I'm not talking just about bullying here, it sickens me to think of some of the things going on in the world right now). And I don't think that anyone who has ever been truly bullied would ever say that it serves a purpose or is a "good" thing. Bullying is a method of exploiting the weakness in others, and basically kicking them when they're down.

It doesn't surprise me that 96% of Harvard business school graduates used to be bullies: the people who go there are often the kind who would be more than willing to cause harm to others if it meant furthering their own personal interests. And unfortunately, that's a tactic that is frequently employed rather effectively in some of the more cutthroat business sectors. What he doesn't mention is how the people that those 96% bullied ended up turning out, and that's really by far the more important aspect of the puzzle. The thing is you don't have to be a terrible person or sacrifice moral values to be successful.

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I sincerely hope this article is satire.

I don't take the article as serious. I think it's satire.

If this article is satire, then it does have a certain dark humour to it. If it's serious - then since the author thinks bullying is so great, I hope they get more than they can stand.

Bullies are jerks, and bullying is inexcusable. "Law of the jungle" is just a way for arrogant, violent creeps to excuse the things they want to do.

why are people dignifying it with responses?

I don’t think considering bullying as a “flaw” of society serves much of a purpose. Not only has it been around since our species exist, it has always been an integral part of the process of establishing the power structures that define society itself. Furthermore, the only individuals with a strong motivation to judge bullying as a real problem and try to persuade everybody else for an exceedingly unlikely change in society’s ways are those whose lives have been truly ruined by it, i.e., those losing the fight for survival. The very fact that human nature doesn’t change and bullying lives on proves that society as a whole does not really care about the fate of those weeded out by natural selection, precisely what is to be expected from a scientific standpoint.



I think that’s specious logic. Being able to crush others to further one’s goals is hardly the same as having to do it while others mysteriously don’t share their need. Being able to do something that others can’t to one’s advantage is by definition a strength, not a weakness, and it’s just natural for them to want to practise and refine it, like any other asset in life. How much the victim hates it doesn’t change this basic fact. The bully doesn’t need to care about the victim’s feelings; rather, it’s the other way round.

By the way, I’m not defending it—just thinking about it.



Of course! That’s the point: they are well aware that could theoretically happen to them, and they still embrace the culture of bullying. I’ve never really understood how some people can so readily dismiss bullies as cowards. They are willing to rely on their own strength and cunning to succeed, and suffer the victim’s fate if they fail to be fit enough.



The very idea of “rising above” it requires a moral—and thus subjective—judgement considering it vile. One can very well disagree, as bullies do: to them, the only vile thing is being weak.

Regarding the last comments, I don’t really care if it’s satire or not—the points made stand by themselves, no matter what the author might actually think. That and not wanting to “dignify it with responses” prove there is a tendency to try and bury unpleasant truths into oblivion. Needless to say, that doesn’t make them go away.

for christ's sake, we as humans are supposed to be better than the f*****g animals! that is our whole reason for being! why can't more people understand this truth?

Hence the reason society is flawed....Also that's a terribly ignorant to say that those who have been badly effected by bullying are losing the fight for survival. I happen to be surviving as best as I can, also why would something that causes peoples lives to be ruined so they can't function as well be a benefit to society? Isn't it best if everyone is healthy I guess not if you want a bunch of heirarchy BS.

Also I don't get the natural selection BS either, weeded out by natural selection would be if I am walking around and a tornado hits and I happen to be in its path....or if I don't have kids then my genes wouldn't continue which would be natural selection. Causing someone harm till it weakens them is not natural selection that's someone being an abusive a**hole. This has nothing to do with a scientific standpoint.





Well all that's just wonderful food for thought ....what is the point in having a society if people are just going to cause harm to each other? Power structure? hierarchy? after a while ' but its been around for thousands of years' becomes a pretty pathetic justification.

I guess murder should be ok because its been around for thousands of years, child abuse has been around for a while to, oh and what about genocide? those are all great things to.

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the social darwinists will never comprehend the evil of their beliefs until they themselves fall by the wayside and become naturally selected roadkill.