If God is a judge...

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I think he does what judges in real life do. He grants life sentences to the innocent and pardons or drops the charges of the guilty. Maybe this is a hefty accusation to lay before God, but I would like to indict him on this charge. He has a Prosecutor he pays and a seemingly high conviction rate. In this way he's also like a real judge. Maybe in the next life the pardoned will get a tougher sentence. But probably not. Like a real judge, he probably gives said guilty people like 30-40 chances because they make excuses of a bad childhood or something and then nukes someone on someone else on their first offense. Like real judges, maybe he just doesn't like the way they talk to him. Maybe that person gave God an attitude and God decided to tell them what time it was and give them a contempt of court charge. Like a real judge, most of the time you cannot answer your charges. You're just guilty because actual trials only exist on TV.

I've heard it said people have a negative view of God basically in light of their image of their fathers, because God is called "Heavenly Father" and all. My dad doesn't seem to like me or want much to do with me, and the only way I'll ever impress him is by doing some superhuman type of s**t. I'm assuming God is the same way.

Well this is my view of God as a judge. I hope God can answer my accusation and prove me wrong.

Have you not heard that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God? I'm not trying to proselytize, but the Godhead is a Trinity, Father Son and Holy Spirit. No one comes to the Father except by the Son.

To me, this relationship is a personal relationship, as the great preacher John Wesley has said.

There's like two Bible verses of God having "personal" relationships with people and a zillion of God declaring himself a judge.

I'm just venting. I don't know. Sorry God if I have no idea what I'm talking about.

this trinity thing is a perfect example of "religion" that I was mentioning in another post. no where in any of those books they call the "bible" is there anything about "trinity". what IS there, however, is plenty of references of "Christ" claiming to be both human and THE monotheistic deity. "before Abraham was, I am." he that has seen me has seen the father "" I and my father are one".

This boggles the feeble human mind so power hungry theologians team up with desparate politicians, relable the "pagan" concept of tritheism as "trinity" , or "one god in three persons" (another phrase you won't find in any of those books.) and make it a state sponsored " faith". Now everyone who believes in the popular flavor of "jesus" spouts "trinity" as it were with the conviction of the most devoted cult followers. The three stooges would be proud. wait. I meant the one stooge in three dimwits. my apologies.

the truth is that we need to quit trying to fit God under our thumb and accept the fact that God does not get measured by our feeble, imperfect standards nor does God adhere to our understanding nor our weak minded morality.

I apologize. I couldn't resist the rant.

Heretical rant dodge!

why is it heretical to recognize "man made" concepts that do nothing more than attempt to limit God to human weakness and reject them? corrupt leaders capitalize on the human needs to both "understand" and "control" things. This is especially true with religion.

Ignoring FlanMaster's lack of sticking to the thread subject.

It sure seems like that some times.

God disciplines those he loves (his children), and ignores those he doesn't (not his children).

Remembering also that "his" judgement is when our life is completed. Not before. We are given every chance to turn and repent. It's only when our time is expired and there is no more option to repent, that his judgement will be made known. And then it's very final.

lf I have inadvertently highjacked the thread, I apologize. but my point is that we presume too much about God, whether God is judge, advocate or otherwise.

If God is like a judge, also remember that he set up the parameters of the situation in the first place. Abused by your parents? If anything was done about it, it was probably secular in nature and arbitrary in that it depended on the skills of local authorities. God the Christian judge also threw in a troublemaker specifically to get you to do evil, they call him Satan. As an omnipotent entity, he could disarm Satan but he doesn't. Also remember that he let humanity exist for something like a million years before he bothered to tell us about his laws, and even then only to a largely illiterate population in one small part of the globe.

Hey, don't forget mercy!! You're offered mercy first, which you're free to accept or reject, but if you say no thanks, then you'll get justice,

I think the fantasy of perfect justice exists because it obviously doesn't exist in this world, much less so thousands of years ago. Interestingly, you could own and abuse slaves and that's not considered injustice in the eyes of God.

Thanks FlanMaster. It's challanging enough discussing God on bulletiin boards. Too many times the boards get dominated by a few antagonists, and the discussions go nowhere.

Under the old testiment laws you were allowed to own slaves, yes. But under those same laws, you were only to keep a slave for 7 years, then give them their wage and set them free. The bible also records that this didn't happen too often and God's judgement came down hard on the Jews for not doing it. They themselves went into slavery several times for not obaying God's laws.

It's common (I think) to attribute to God our own thoughts. It takes a lot more courage to read what God had written in his book and to let God speak for himself. Also takes a lot of reading and study. I believe the bible is best read litteraly, in that God said what he meant and meant what he said.

Much of the bible is history. What happened and what were the consequenses. Parts of the bibile are metaphore, some parts are symbolic. It takes study to get the deeper meaning from the symbolic parts.

The way I try to understand God's personality; is to accept that there are 12 zodiac signs, all representing a personality type. Then there are animals, fish and birds ect. For God to have created us all individual and with out own personality traits, God must himself have those traits. I just can't grasp a concept where God invents a trait that he himself doesn't have. So in my mind, I accept that he is way more complex and complete than I can concieve. My mind is as a tiny fragment of his.

That is my view, it's not a view expressed (like this at least) in the bible.

God's judgement comes in the next life. What we see now is life as a judge. And by 3rd grade, we all know that life isn't fair. Many Christians rely on God to cope with life's injustices.

God talks through my ass.

She/he/it/they say that you're all wonderful people, and doing just fine as far as judgement goes.

[quote="thepurplefire13] Many Christians rely on God to cope with life's injustices.[/quote]

So, are you saying that if I think that history validates the Christ more than others (thereby accepting the belief) then God will give me better coping skills? Wow! thats more than my doctors do for me.

reincarnation only happens to those who can't remember but think that they do.

back on topic : God doesn't have to judge. leave us alone and humans will do it through stupidity.

Satan is the prosecutor (see Book of Job)

Sometimes I liken it to a kid. You tell them not to do something, but they don't understand why.

Check out the Book of Proverbs for some ideas.