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07 Aug 2013, 7:13 pm

I don't know too much about the political preferences of individuals on the spectrum, but do aspies generally dislike or don't trust conservatives, specifically the republicans in the US for US aspies? I notice the trend with other "minorities" is to vote democratic, in the US anyway. It is my personal opinion sometimes where it feels like autistic individuals are buying into something that'll generally keep them down in the cold, with the other 'minorities'. Man I hate that term. I'm not really as conservative either, though I still consider myself traditional in some areas.

Think "Aspies can't work because they are incapable lower beings and desperately need help." Special cases for welfare doesn't work. In Sweden, a welfare state, now I'd expect generous welfare, color-blind and doesn't discriminate on factors.



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07 Aug 2013, 7:22 pm

I don't like neither the far-right nor the left (I'm an adherant of center-right social liberalism myself), simply because I want to be treated like an adult by the government. I don't have anything against left-wing or far-right people, but politically, they're full of BS.



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07 Aug 2013, 7:23 pm

^Same.

I claim to be a Moderate, in that I determine my vote on principles, and not personalities.



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07 Aug 2013, 8:23 pm

Dangerous and unhinged conservative here. :P


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07 Aug 2013, 8:45 pm

I was a liberal before I ever even heard of Asperger's.

Why wouldn't I be ? SSI is what pays my rent & utilities, Food Stamps are what feed me.

But I'm just one person, can't speak for anyone else (Aspie or non).


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07 Aug 2013, 8:47 pm

Belfast wrote:
I was a liberal before I ever even heard of Asperger's.

Why wouldn't I be ? SSI is what pays my rent & utilities, Food Stamps are what feed me.

But I'm just one person, can't speak for anyone else (Aspie or non).


That's the driving force more than anything else.


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07 Aug 2013, 8:50 pm

Hey, I'm honest about it.
But philosophically & psychologically,
I was a liberal (and I vote, thank you very much)
long before I went on welfare.


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07 Aug 2013, 10:16 pm

I do not personally hate conservatives. I mean I take issue with them as a whole, concerning certain issues, but I do not have contempt towards them as persons. If anything, I get the impression that they resent me at times, as they don't seem to appreciate my refutation of their information. Plus, unless they themselves are also determined to be on the autistic spectrum, they tend to use the cliche retort that I can not see the forrest for the trees, given my Asperger Syndrome. So I find the lot of them to be both ignorant, and condescending. As John Stuart Mill once stated,

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Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.
- http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/johnstuart201721.html. As to my own views, I think that some might end up mistaking my own left-libertarianism as being a sort of conservative strain of thought, being that I, as a philosophical anarchist, feel that the ideal should be the least amount of government as is feasible. I favour voluntary association over the state, and mutual aid over social welfare. But, I still tend to favor the likes of the Democratic Freedom Caucus over the Republican Party.



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07 Aug 2013, 10:30 pm

Fnord wrote:
^Same.

I claim to be a Moderate, in that I determine my vote on principles, and not personalities.


Odd, isn't (rigid) adherence to principle the sign of an ideologue (though not necessarily a partisan)?


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07 Aug 2013, 10:38 pm

Raptor wrote:
Belfast wrote:
I was a liberal before I ever even heard of Asperger's.

Why wouldn't I be ? SSI is what pays my rent & utilities, Food Stamps are what feed me.

But I'm just one person, can't speak for anyone else (Aspie or non).


That's the driving force more than anything else.


Sorta love the far-right memes about "liberals". If you're an upper middle class professional who pays taxes to support the social safety net you're a "latte-sipping", "liberal elitist" who knows nothing of the proletarian's struggles. Yet if you're a member of the poor (working or jobless) you're a "47%" "moocher".


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07 Aug 2013, 10:50 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Belfast wrote:
I was a liberal before I ever even heard of Asperger's.

Why wouldn't I be ? SSI is what pays my rent & utilities, Food Stamps are what feed me.

But I'm just one person, can't speak for anyone else (Aspie or non).


That's the driving force more than anything else.


Sorta love the far-right memes about "liberals". If you're an upper middle class professional who pays taxes to support the social safety net you're a "latte-sipping", "liberal elitist" who knows nothing of the proletarian's struggles. Yet if you're a member of the poor (working or jobless) you're a "47%" "moocher".


Nope, I merely said it was the more common driving force behind voting democrat. People, including me, tend to vote for what's better for their wallets.
Better luck on your next attempted strawman attack.


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07 Aug 2013, 11:30 pm

I can't help but see this through the bias of my own experience. Conservatives are the ones who made me go on SSI as soon as I became an adult. Liberals are the ones who tried to help me get a job. My right-wing parents forced me to apply for it because their health insurance no longer could cover me and wouldn't let me go without. The reason I wasn't working wasn't that I was incapable, it's that I'm incapable of interviewing for jobs and I had to be put on a 2 year waiting list for vocational rehab because of right-wing policies and health insurance is rationed so tightly because of right-wing policies. I'm apolitical now, I just think most conservatives lack foresight and creativity to help differently able people so their solution is to force them into going on SSI even if that person finds it humiliating.



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07 Aug 2013, 11:57 pm

I lean democratic, but I have disillusionment with both parties. Both parties seem to want a hand in dictating decisions that are frankly none of their concern lately.



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08 Aug 2013, 12:29 am

I'm an Emparialist
Which means that I'm a Diyinic Moralist intellectual who politically seeks a constitutional moralist republic to legislate morality and protect the sacred Inalienable Rights and people's enjoyment of them from threats whether inside the government or outside of it.

Which means on social issues I take moralist stances, which I seek rational means to achieve

on economic issues I am an economic moderate, that is anti-materialist and believe in using economic resources for intelligent efforts to improve the characters of people and create institutions that will aid that effort, as well, especially in education and law enforcement.

As for the minorities voting democratic part. I think that could be in part remedied if conservatives made more of an effort to promote their ideas to minorities and show them how it would benefit them. Personally I'm and independent, and vote based on the qualities and values of the candidate. I generally lean toward the republican candidates, because the democrats usually nominate permissivists, but if the republicans nominate a bad candidate and the democrats don't nominate a permissivist I am willing to consider voting for that particular democratic candidate, and if they do nominate a permissivist there are usually third party candidates I can vote for.



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08 Aug 2013, 3:43 am

^ Fantasy politics don't count. ^



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08 Aug 2013, 6:30 am

I do.

If it was up to them I would be dead from cancer because I wouldn't have had Planned Parenthood to go to to get diagnosed and I wouldn't have had Medicaid to pay for my treatment.