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30 Sep 2013, 12:05 pm

go :P



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30 Sep 2013, 12:17 pm

LMAO!! !!

ok i like pc's for these reasons:

1) most of my professional work has required PCs and PC based software. this is not as much an issue today, but when i was coming up, they weren't as interchangeable.

2) i can buy parts and build a PC to my custom specs, and i know how. i don't think that is as easy to do with a Mac, being proprietary.

3) in the past, all of the video games i played were written for PCs, with poor if any porting over to Mac platform.

4) i can get a PC or PC laptop cheaper than a Mac.

5) i can load LINUX on a PC. not sure if that can be done on a mac.

now, i'm trying to formulate my resume to apply for a job telecommuting with Apple, so all this may change!

in the 90's when i had fellow academics, Mac was much praised as having superior architecture, etc etc. with the current trends in emulation and mutual compatibility, i don't know if that's still true.


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30 Sep 2013, 12:49 pm

I used to be a mac guy and got really excited when I found out OS X was going to be based on a kernel similar to BSD. I got a beta release and it was screaming fast. By the time it came out they had taken a big steaming dump on top of the OS. For a while I believe they even hid the terminal window.

I've used them a bit sense and although they seem to be alright if you need to go past the surface for anything technical they are a pain. Seems like they are computers for people who don't like computers. I think they took what used to be a superior product and focused on making it shiny.

PC does every thing I need to now for a lot less money.



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30 Sep 2013, 12:51 pm

Hmmm... re reading my post it seems I might sill be bitter at apple. Or maybe I'm still mad a bungie for selling out to microsoft. :lol:



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30 Sep 2013, 3:11 pm

OS X is better for Audio Recording/latency. Core Audio is better than ASIO.



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30 Sep 2013, 5:00 pm

It doesn't matter. You can install your choice of BSD or Linux on both.



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30 Sep 2013, 5:06 pm

With the intel-based Mac, I'm getting the best of both worlds. You have the rock hard stability of Unix, the ease of use of a Mac, and the ability, via BootCamp, to run Windows natively on Apple Hardware, without all the misery of the ancient BIOS that has been the pain of All PC users since the IBM-PC. I haven't had any of the problems I used to have with BIOS based PC and windows since going with an intel-based Mac.



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30 Sep 2013, 5:07 pm

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With the intel-based Mac, I'm getting the best of both worlds. You have the rock hard stability of Unix, the ease of use of a Mac, and the ability, via BootCamp, to run Windows natively on Apple Hardware, without all the misery of the ancient BIOS that has been the pain of All PC users since the IBM-PC. I haven't had any of the problems I used to have with BIOS based PC and windows since going with an intel-based Mac.



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30 Sep 2013, 5:44 pm

I just bought my first apple last week (not counting my iPad which I love).

It's an Air and I keep telling everyone it's like driving a rolls royce. they are very good at making you feel like that, I have to say. Problem is (I discussed this in another thread), i can't put MS Access on it and I'm in the middle of an Access project. i know, I know i can go nuts with all that crazy extra stuff to run windows programs, but unless it's seriously simple and devoid of complications I'm not going to.

I am really profoundly shocked at how few windows programs there are for Mac. The other major pain for me is OneNote. SO I thought, well I can adapt, i'll force myself to use Evernote, but the transfer process takes forever and it just lumps everything together in one noebook. And then I have to deal with itunes over media monkey. i really may have to take it back, have a few more days. but as you can see the keys on my current computer skip, so i want to keep a my AIr. The screen is stunning and I didn't get the whatever they call screen upgrrade.



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30 Sep 2013, 5:46 pm

Girlwithaspergers wrote:
go :P


Where? :lol:

Anyways PCs... but I highly doubt my reasons would be worth discussing :D


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30 Sep 2013, 6:23 pm

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30 Sep 2013, 7:44 pm

wozeree wrote:
I just bought my first apple last week (not counting my iPad which I love).

It's an Air and I keep telling everyone it's like driving a rolls royce. they are very good at making you feel like that, I have to say. Problem is (I discussed this in another thread), i can't put MS Access on it and I'm in the middle of an Access project. i know, I know i can go nuts with all that crazy extra stuff to run windows programs, but unless it's seriously simple and devoid of complications I'm not going to.

I am really profoundly shocked at how few windows programs there are for Mac. The other major pain for me is OneNote. SO I thought, well I can adapt, i'll force myself to use Evernote, but the transfer process takes forever and it just lumps everything together in one noebook. And then I have to deal with itunes over media monkey. i really may have to take it back, have a few more days. but as you can see the keys on my current computer skip, so i want to keep a my AIr. The screen is stunning and I didn't get the whatever they call screen upgrrade.


That would depend on how much hard drive space and how much memory you gave not your MacBook Air. For a minimal install of Windows 7, you'll need at least 200 gb of hard drive space and at least 8 gb of RAM for everything to run properly.

Easiest way to install windows is to install with bootCamp. After windows is installed, you can either boot into windows by using with the startup disk preference and choosing your BootCamp partition, or hold down the option key when you hear the startup chime when powering up the machine, then selecting the boot camp partition from the menu that appears.

If you need to use access while in Mac OS X, then you will need an emulation package. The three that I have worked with are VMWare Fusion, Parallels Desktop for Mac and Oracle's VirtualBox.

While VMWare and Parallels are commercial products, VirtualBox is free. However, VirtualBox is a pain in the arse to use with BootCamp. I've used Fusion and Parallels, and parallels seems to have better integration with BootCamp.



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30 Sep 2013, 8:13 pm

/drool

i'm about due for some new technology


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30 Sep 2013, 8:22 pm

Meistersinger wrote:
wozeree wrote:
I just bought my first apple last week (not counting my iPad which I love).

It's an Air and I keep telling everyone it's like driving a rolls royce. they are very good at making you feel like that, I have to say. Problem is (I discussed this in another thread), i can't put MS Access on it and I'm in the middle of an Access project. i know, I know i can go nuts with all that crazy extra stuff to run windows programs, but unless it's seriously simple and devoid of complications I'm not going to.

I am really profoundly shocked at how few windows programs there are for Mac. The other major pain for me is OneNote. SO I thought, well I can adapt, i'll force myself to use Evernote, but the transfer process takes forever and it just lumps everything together in one noebook. And then I have to deal with itunes over media monkey. i really may have to take it back, have a few more days. but as you can see the keys on my current computer skip, so i want to keep a my AIr. The screen is stunning and I didn't get the whatever they call screen upgrrade.


That would depend on how much hard drive space and how much memory you gave not your MacBook Air. For a minimal install of Windows 7, you'll need at least 200 gb of hard drive space and at least 8 gb of RAM for everything to run properly.

Easiest way to install windows is to install with bootCamp. After windows is installed, you can either boot into windows by using with the startup disk preference and choosing your BootCamp partition, or hold down the option key when you hear the startup chime when powering up the machine, then selecting the boot camp partition from the menu that appears.

If you need to use access while in Mac OS X, then you will need an emulation package. The three that I have worked with are VMWare Fusion, Parallels Desktop for Mac and Oracle's VirtualBox.

While VMWare and Parallels are commercial products, VirtualBox is free. However, VirtualBox is a pain in the arse to use with BootCamp. I've used Fusion and Parallels, and parallels seems to have better integration with BootCamp.


Wow, thanks for explaining that. I'm really pretty good with computers, I could probably do that, but as I get into the wee hours of my life, not knowing how many of them I actually have left, I tend to want to dedicate less and less and less and less time doing stuff like that. I just want to be FREEEEE! I really love my Air, I'm trying a few Mac programs to see if I can use them instead.



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30 Sep 2013, 9:25 pm

Opi wrote:
LMAO!! !!

ok i like pc's for these reasons:

1) most of my professional work has required PCs and PC based software. this is not as much an issue today, but when i was coming up, they weren't as interchangeable.

2) i can buy parts and build a PC to my custom specs, and i know how. i don't think that is as easy to do with a Mac, being proprietary.

3) in the past, all of the video games i played were written for PCs, with poor if any porting over to Mac platform.

4) i can get a PC or PC laptop cheaper than a Mac.

5) i can load LINUX on a PC. not sure if that can be done on a mac.

now, i'm trying to formulate my resume to apply for a job telecommuting with Apple, so all this may change!

in the 90's when i had fellow academics, Mac was much praised as having superior architecture, etc etc. with the current trends in emulation and mutual compatibility, i don't know if that's still true.


Macs aren't as proprietary with most hardware as you think. If you're dealing with their towers, they use standard SATA hard drives and Optical Drives. IIRC, the towers also PCI-E expansion ports. The only technology I can think of that is proprietary right now on a Mac are the Thunderbolt and Lightening connectors. Even then, Thunderbolt is an Intel technology.

As for loading Linux, it Shouldn't be a problem, as most of the current distributions do understand EFI.

The nice thing about Mac OS is that it doesn't matter where it boots from, as long as there is a "blessed" System Folder on that device.



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30 Sep 2013, 9:28 pm

Depends on your preferences and needs. I've used primarily PC throughout my life, but there have been a few Mac features I like. No strong opinions either way... it's technology, not a religion.