What's WRONG with me?! I think Hitler was hot!! !

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I've been having this problem ever since I realized that there is an opposite gender and you can have a romantic relationship with them.

Well, the problem is... I'm sexually attracted to Hitler and other high-ranking Nazis (though I would NEVER date a Neo-Nazi!).

I'm NOT a Holocaust denier. I do NOT hate the Jews. I am NOT a Nazi. So, what can explain this?

In part, they're my special interest, but I don't do a lot of reading about them, contradictory to my other special interests. I just keep looking at photos of the same perhaps 10 Nazi war criminals over and over and over again... For HOURS a day.

It's something with old black-and-white photos, I think. They make everything seem strangely sensual and appealing. And then there are those perfectly-fitted uniforms, the military boots, the marches... And, perhaps most importantly, the leading Nazis were really interesting people! When looking at a happy family propaganda film with the Goebbels family, for instance, I know "yeah, they weren't really a happy family at all!". I can look at Himmler knowing who he really was deep inside, look at Heydrich and know he was a power-mad jerk etc.. I've read about them, so I know them as people, and I'm very fascinated with the mix of deeply ideological thinking, brilliant minds and total power-madness.

It's a mix of it all. The manliness, the power, the intelligence, the ability to sway a whole people, marching soldiers with military boots, heiling for a lost cause... Yeah, I don't really know why, but I'm seriously sexually attracted to all that.

My sexual fantasies are centered around Nazis and me in a BDSM-like story together. Sometimes I punish, slap and humiliate the Nazis... Sometimes they punish, slap and humiliate me.

So, erm... Why am I this way? Should I stop looking at Nazi photos in an erotic manner? Is this a bad thing?

Again, I'm NOT a Nazi!

You are now officially a weirdo.

Congratulation.

I don't have a problem with it, you're just being honest. I say fill yer boots! You have a healthy attitude about it and it's OK to have sexual fantasies. It's not that weird actually...nothing wrong with you.

Do you have a range of toothbrushes named after you?

Hey babe, do you find me hot now?


I might have killed few million people but hey, deep down...I am a Nice Guy!!

This thread reminds me of a line from a rap-song which goes: "Psychopathic, but the ho's are attracted".

Your very honest about it, which must be hard. But I think it would be best to find a new fantasy to play out in your mind (I have always had fantasies too - are they the result of over active/imaginative minds?). The thing is that these objects of fascination come with very bad associations and why fill your mind with such negativity? It will bring you slowly down mentally over time.

There's no denying they had the best uniforms and certainly had a sense of style and drama. But for me, I really just can't get past the genocide.

Well there's no denying (heh, get it? xD) that the Nazis had some pretty badass looking uniforms and military gear, and somehow whenever I play a WWII-themed game I get a kick out of playing as the Germans and being "evil", but at the same time I'm actually quite against Nazism, neo-Nazism, and all other forms of fascism, authoritarianism, and discrimination in real life, and I most definitely do NOT endorse the actions the Nazis were responsible for.

I'm the same way about the Soviets; I think they had cool looking gear and I get a kick out of playing as them in Cold War-themed games, but at the same time I don't actually endorse their actions or ideologies. Additionally, as I am part Ukrainian, I kind of have an axe to grind with them for Holodomor, also known as the Ukrainian Holocaust, where Stalin stole all the Ukrainians' food and forced them to starve.

Although i do find this attraction/"fetish" of yours strange and pretty weird, I have no judgement against you. In all honesty i do hate everything the Nazi's did, and actually dislike them pretty much, yes i guess there were two sites to them - the person looking out for their family, the other the mean, psychopathic like person taking innocent lives in the most horrid way. Most "common sense" people (including me) would instantly upon learning all the bad things they did, determine that these people were when all comes to all bad, and not worthy of neither respect or being "liked". Many Nazi's were in my opinion Sadist's, aka i think they enjoyed hurting people.

Therefore i come to think that, have you maybe experienced growing up in a home were people hurt each other, or maybe you have witnessed "sadistic" type behavior in your childhood maybe done by someone you used to trust/ look up to - just one traumatic incident is enough to make a big impact on you, and even change your personality traits to some extent. This is just a wild guess, but if some of the examples above actually has happened to you while growing up, this might explain your "attraction" to these loud, strict sadistic leader types, who dominated over many people / bossed people around.

Or maybe you just happen to have a somewhat strange Taboo type fetish. Fair enough that it's weird, but again i won't hold that against.
You could also be what many would call a Masochist - someone who likes being hurt by themselves or others.

Don't be to hard on yourself about this though, your not alone in having fantasies and interests that are considered weird and taboo.

But if you really feel embarrassed about this, if you wan't to find out why this is in your case, maybe you should consider seeing a GOOD shrink, who'm you can talk to about how it affects you etc, who can help you find out more about maybe the cause of it, and who might also help you to sort out those things/habits you'd like to be rid off etc. If you like to get a shrink, just remember that it is important that you find a proper and professional one, someone who takes his/her patients seriously and who'm doesn't take advantage of them.

Funny enough, I had reason to post the following link on a thread here yesterday
LINK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_pornography
Its big in Israel in the BDSM world, Nazi porn.

Iam reading a book at the moment called "Savage Continent" about how even after the Nazis where defeated and out of the way, Europeans continued to suffer ethnic cleansing, tortures and other atrocities, one Dutch man who had been in German concentration camps and then experienced Polish concentration camps after the war said, " I would rather spend 10 years in Auschwitz than 1 day in a Polish camp", for revenge always tends to escalate, now the book goes into detail the treatment of the Women of occupied countries who had slept with, or married Nazi soldiers, the reasons the Women give for being traitors to their country and menfolk are exactly the same reasons that you give, so you are by far not unique in your perversions, only in the way you have artificially exposed yourself in a fantasy way to what for them was a reality.

Its a Woman thing, my own Mother had rejected an internationally known Footballer who she said was "too nice", and married my Stepfather instead who was far more evil than Hitler, though fortunately he wasnt in a position of power to expose his cruelties beyond his own family.
Its why serial killers and child killers in prison get Women writing to them expressing their Love for them and offering themselves in marriage.

You might be disappointed with Hitler by the way who though into BDSM himself, was said to be a Masochist rather than the charming Sadistic Master that you crave.

Me, I don't think I could be into anyone who was that controlling and uptight...

...but as long as you find what they DID repugnant, I don't think you have any grounds to worry.

Lots of women go in for well-groomed men in uniform.

They were definitely well-groomed. They really did have some GREAT uniforms.

And-- You know, the illusion of perfection would be appealing to almost anyone. I think I must have serious issues with authority, because it's not appealing to me. I mean, I know why-- When I was a little girl, my grandparents worshipped that image; at the same time, my grandma (finally overwhelmed by keeping it up) would lay in bed some nights and trot out all the family skeletons (and boy there were a bunch of them) for me to see. So-- I saw what it did, and I saw what it hid, and I decided I wanted NO PART OF IT.

Still, I have this stupid f*****g love-hate relationship with lifestyle/shelter magazines and the Donna Reed/June Cleaver lifestyle...

Nothing wrong with Nazi BDSM roleplay, either. I think, actually I'm pretty sure, that there are whole websites and sex clubs dedicated to it. Not my bag, but look-- as long as you're not planning Krystallnacht and building Buchenwald (or supporting people who are) you're good in my book.

And yes, I had a multiple-year fascination with the Nazis and the Holocaust. I picked up Grandpa's copy of The Hiding Place... and then I went to the library... and then... Well, you should've seen the look on the small-town librarian's face when a twelve-year-old girl in a Rainbow Brite shirt asked if she could get me any books on the American Eugenics Program through inter-library loan.

Oh-- If you're anywhere near Martinsburg, WV, I might be able to set you up with a lonely 33-year-old virgin, probable Aspie, who's into WWII re-enactments, actually prefers dressing up as a Nazi, and I suspect would LOVE playing the dominant in a BDSM thing.

Bad news?? He has a really grating voice, his prosody makes ME want to pull my hair out, and he still lives with his mother. But he does have a job. And he's a really great role-player.

I have read that book. It was a convenient fiction that anti-semitism was a German thing exclusively, it certainly wasn't. And the Nazis used the old divide and conquer methodology as well as the Roman or British empire did in their short-lived European mastery.

I can understand I'm a historian, so I often get historical fetishes. It all culminated into this sex dream I had with Queen Boudica. What a night that was, you don't slay Romans out of acts of vengeance with developing some BDSM habits. If you try to get past all the NAZI sh**, I guess Hitler can seem like a pretty hot dude, I mean after all he kept in shape, ate healthy, and had a very hot blonde girlfriend (I have had a sex fantasy involving Ava Braun as well, and one a hot Elanor Roosevelt). Also if NAZI uniforms weren't... well... NAZI uniforms then I think they would look totally bad ass.

I'll put it this just as long as you yourself don't become a NAZI, and try to re-establish the third reich here in the US then I think you'll be fine with your historical fetishes. If you have a thing for mass murdering, yet attractive psychopaths, then you should look into Hernán Cortés and the millions he killed all looking damn good doing it. And just remember we all have fetishes.

*edit made spelling corrections, added another fantasy I forgot I had

And not just in that book, I have read many books describing the actions of the Polish to the Jews who thought it would be safe to return to Poland once the Nazis where gone and the war had ended, only to be taken off trains and shot in the back of the head by Poles complaining that the Nazis had not finished the job.

What I was surprised to learn from that book was the Russians also acting in this way and their actions not being curtailed by the Communist Jewish leaders for political reasons as they didnt want Communism to be viewed by the anti-Semitic nations they where hoping to bring Communism to, as being a pro-Jewish party, so even high ranking Jews where allowing the continuation of Jewish ethnic cleansing, the perpetuating of the Holocaust after the war had ended.