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29 Dec 2013, 12:36 pm

Ok so always knew that I was "different" and I got clues that it was all autism related when I was about 17 (now 29). But I always thought any outwardly obvious traits were long gone. I used to spend hours staring into space as a kid, but aside from that I didn't know that I "stimmed" or anything like that. These days I consider myself to appear totally NT till people dig deeper about my life.

But I just made a video of myself as I am learning to sing, and OMG - did I get a shock! I am lord of stimming. When I sing I twitch, blink aggressively, move my nose around. I look mental. I play guitar when I sing, if I didn't I imagine some bizarre hand movements would also be involved.



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29 Dec 2013, 12:44 pm

I think I act normal but would hate to see a video of how I actually look when I'm doing things.



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29 Dec 2013, 12:47 pm

same there. I think this is part of why I avoid photos as well. It doesn't matter what I am trying to do in the picture, my expression is always in transition or it looks like I'm concentrating on keeping my face from slipping off.


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29 Dec 2013, 12:53 pm

Yep. Gotta work on keeping the face relaxed and immobile....



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29 Dec 2013, 1:12 pm

Herman wrote:
I always thought any outwardly obvious traits were long gone.


This is what I keep telling people who think they've "cured" themselves of their autism, or overcome their social ineptitude: You cannot see yourself as others see you.



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29 Dec 2013, 4:51 pm

Various Symptoms seem to increase and decrease in intensity/severity.


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29 Dec 2013, 5:17 pm

Whenever I think my visible traits have become unnoticeable I see a video of me walking and the whole concept of being an "invisible Aspie" becomes fiction.


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30 Dec 2013, 5:10 am

Herman wrote:
Ok so always knew that I was "different" and I got clues that it was all autism related when I was about 17 (now 29). But I always thought any outwardly obvious traits were long gone. I used to spend hours staring into space as a kid, but aside from that I didn't know that I "stimmed" or anything like that. These days I consider myself to appear totally NT till people dig deeper about my life.

But I just made a video of myself as I am learning to sing, and OMG - did I get a shock! I am lord of stimming. When I sing I twitch, blink aggressively, move my nose around. I look mental. I play guitar when I sing, if I didn't I imagine some bizarre hand movements would also be involved.


Saw on some birthday videos, the way I interacted with others. ^^ But somehow it made me as well more relaxed. It is far more understandable for me, when random strangers I interact with, treat me after a few words as someone being "special" or start explaining stuff, as they would to a child and so on. I have a high IQ and I am thinking very fast, but I simply accept, that what comes out of my physical shell when doing social contact, really looks "weird". ^^ They way my voice sounds, my eyes are wandering if I dont concentrate, as I stop doing anything else when talking, my face expression...I´d say its a kind of stoned Odie. XD I can relate to you, that I was shocked when I realized that, but actually its a fact, and knowing the fact helps me dealing with it better, like staying calmer about other peoples reaction and so on.



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30 Dec 2013, 5:18 am

This is even true of NT's. There are some actors who can not watch movies they are in, because they can not stand watching themselves that way. I read one actor saying when she saw the first move she was in, she was thinking "omg is that how I actually sound?! Is that how I actually move?!" And worse for us of course. I always rely on my cousin my age and one friend to point stuff out to me that looks goofy to others. Sometimes I try to compensate other times I just do not give a s#!t.



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30 Dec 2013, 6:07 am

EzraS wrote:
This is even true of NT's. There are some actors who can not watch movies they are in, because they can not stand watching themselves that way. I read one actor saying when she saw the first move she was in, she was thinking "omg is that how I actually sound?! Is that how I actually move?!" .



Yes, I think a lot of people Aspie or NT experience a similar reaction to watching themselves on video. I am sure that many of the scenes some of these actors cringe at watching would actually appear perfectly OK to any other person watching those scenes. Maybe it has a lot to do with the eye of the beholder.


I think for me not all but most facial and body language issues are as a result of anxiety/panic attacks.


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30 Dec 2013, 8:27 am

whats ret*d look like then? itd be interesting to know,as am one of those who come under the label of learning disability [aka intelectual disability in america] and dont apreciate being used as a comparison for someone acting stupid.
it sounds like have finaly discovered self awareness,it hits like a ton of bricks when it comes.



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30 Dec 2013, 11:48 am

I'm not crazy about the use of the words ret*d or ret*d on WP either. I was asked by a couple of boys if I was ret*d when I was 11. The instigator said to his pally that I said I was ret*d when I didn't say that. I said to that instigator I didn't say, I called him a liar and I shouted in his ear over and over that I hated him.

However, I don't feel there's anything wrong with people who bare that label. I've gotten to know a few people with intellectual disabilities and I became friends with them. I also don't like people making fun of them or using their condition to describe something that they think is stupid.


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30 Dec 2013, 12:24 pm

KingdomOfRats wrote:
whats ret*d look like then? itd be interesting to know,as am one of those who come under the label of learning disability [aka intelectual disability in america] and dont apreciate being used as a comparison for someone acting stupid.
it sounds like have finaly discovered self awareness,it hits like a ton of bricks when it comes.


I presumed we have collectively progresses to a point where the label can be used in a friendly humorous way in the right context. I do not see anyone "beneath me" and certainly never use the word or anything similar to label someone with a deficit in any particular faculty. I have been an outsider my whole life, in large part due to being different and weirding people out.

I have been called things equivalent to ret*d by Teachers, the Police, Relatives, and even Parents and Siblings. Not in a joking way either.

I was just shocked, and amused at how I looked. Like I said, "lord of stimming" almost like I have cerebral palsy. It would be dishonest to say I was totally OK with this, it is somewhat of a knock and blow. Does that mean that I am belittling everyone else who aggressively blinks and contorts their face for no good reason?

I am ret*d, I do have intellectual disabilities. Just now I know it is outwardly visible.



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30 Dec 2013, 8:41 pm

I used to conduct myself when I sang. My teacher had to break that habit out of me. I wonder if it was a stim.


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21 Apr 2020, 10:45 am

I had to work long and hard on masking to appear normal.