Kids on the spectrum don't belong in mainstream school

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24 Feb 2014, 7:44 pm

Mixing with regular kids has left me with permanent mental scars that I will take to my grave.

Putting a kid with any kind of Autism into regular school is like putting a sheep into a field with a pack of wolfs.

In fairness nothing was known about Aspergers when I was a kid but today there is no excuse.

Children are not sweet little angles they can be horrible little evil demons and they like to run in packs.

You might think a child with Autism can be very smart and well adjusted a few years with NT kids will soon fix that.



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24 Feb 2014, 7:50 pm

It's good practice for the real world.
No environment I've been in since high school has ever been as awful as it was.


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24 Feb 2014, 7:54 pm

sharkattack wrote:
Mixing with regular kids has left me with permanent mental scars that I will take to my grave.

Putting a kid with any kind of Autism into regular school is like putting a sheep into a field with a pack of wolfs.

In fairness nothing was known about Aspergers when I was a kid but today there is no excuse.

Children are not sweet little angles they can be horrible little evil demons and they like to run in packs.

You might think a child with Autism can be very smart and well adjusted a few years with NT kids will soon fix that.


I know what you mean before I went to the special school I was in a primary school those monsters made my life hell I was glad to get away from them.
At least when I was at the special school I had friends and felt I fitted in.



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24 Feb 2014, 7:56 pm

Not true of all people on the spectrum.

I enjoyed NT school without ever being identified as having special needs.



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24 Feb 2014, 7:56 pm

Aprilviolets wrote:
sharkattack wrote:
Mixing with regular kids has left me with permanent mental scars that I will take to my grave.

Putting a kid with any kind of Autism into regular school is like putting a sheep into a field with a pack of wolfs.

In fairness nothing was known about Aspergers when I was a kid but today there is no excuse.

Children are not sweet little angles they can be horrible little evil demons and they like to run in packs.

You might think a child with Autism can be very smart and well adjusted a few years with NT kids will soon fix that.


I know what you mean before I went to the special school I was in a primary school those monsters made my life hell I was glad to get away from them.
At least when I was at the special school I had friends and felt I fitted in.


I would say that felt like a nice change.



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24 Feb 2014, 8:02 pm

Pobbles wrote:
Not true of all people on the spectrum.

I enjoyed NT school without ever being identified as having special needs.


Believe it or not I was quite good at school itself the work was not a problem.

Mixing with the other kids was.

Look at this board people from all over the spectrum post here and it has a nice atmosphere.

A school for people on the spectrum would have been a safe place where I might have done better.



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24 Feb 2014, 8:09 pm

It's hard to say what might have been, but I hear you. While I got good grades, had friends, and was well-liked by my teachers I was aware that I wasn't somehow getting the 'depth' of social interactions that came naturally to my friends.

Would I have been better socially adjusted if I was kept out of mainstream school? Very hard to say.



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24 Feb 2014, 8:10 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
It's good practice for the real world.
No environment I've been in since high school has ever been as awful as it was.


I feel like attending regular public school played a major role in preventing my functioning in the 'real world'.


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24 Feb 2014, 8:11 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
It's good practice for the real world.
No environment I've been in since high school has ever been as awful as it was.


I feel like attending regular public school played a major role in preventing my functioning in the 'real world'.


Count me it on that one it crushed my confidence and self worth.



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24 Feb 2014, 8:12 pm

I disagree. I was in a special school and I hated it. Too many noisy and annoying kids. I'm back at regular school and I'm way happier.


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24 Feb 2014, 8:14 pm

Some do better mainstreamed, others do better not, why say not to mainstream anyone, or to mainstream everyone? It's very individualized.


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24 Feb 2014, 8:16 pm

Tuttle I can only form my opinion on my own experience and plenty of people here have said the same thing.

School was total HELL for me.



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24 Feb 2014, 8:17 pm

Tuttle wrote:
Some do better mainstreamed, others do better not, why say not to mainstream anyone, or to mainstream everyone? It's very individualized.


Economics. NT kids are relatively cheap to educate and require fewer teachers, that is, NT kids seem to learn well in groups. I would imagine a school for kids on the spectrum would have a gigantic wage bill.



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24 Feb 2014, 8:28 pm

Tuttle wrote:
Some do better mainstreamed, others do better not, why say not to mainstream anyone, or to mainstream everyone? It's very individualized.


Exactly. I did awful in a mainstream school, and a special needs situation. What was best for me was being able learn independently without being in any school setting.

School is not good for me at all. My cousin with ADHD however does way better in a special school situation, my little cousin with autism does better mainstreamed. Totally individual situation.



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24 Feb 2014, 9:09 pm

I am very glad I was main streamed all the way. IMO aspies should never be in spec ed.


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24 Feb 2014, 9:14 pm

Skilpadde wrote:
I am very glad I was main streamed all the way. IMO aspies should never be in spec ed.


I disagree there would be no way I could have coped in high school I'm glad I went to the special school.