Trauma after trying desperately to fit in with NTs?

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Milicent
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02 Apr 2014, 3:25 pm

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I'm a newbie here and I hope my question makes sense to you: (to all of you who have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome as adults) have you felt traumatized after having realized as an adult that you have had Asperger's Syndrome all along and have tried to bend over backwards trying to live like the average NT? And if you used to try hard to fit in, did/do you find it scary to sort of find your way back to your natural Aspie way of being? I guess what I'm trying to say is do you find it necessary but hard to shed all/some of the social hypervigilance and mimicry you've been practicing before?



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02 Apr 2014, 3:43 pm

I was diagnosed as a child, but the only thing that changed was that I was given more support in school. I grew up pressured to be emotional, responsive, and interested in others for the sake of being interested. To compliment and harmonize, not analyze and stand strong on what matters. To never challenge or debate but to be sensitive and inoffensive. Even most here on WrongPlanet fit the bill more than I do, although I can easily act my way through simple situations.

I spent over 10 years in a depression and often struggled with anxiety, as well. The day I stopped caring about being harmonious and nice they both went away, and I'm feeling better than ever now. I even made new friends who are like me and the experience is helping me to heal two decades of repression and anger.

I think that counts for emotional trauma. I still use the social techniques, but only if I'm curious, I care about the person, or I want/need something.



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02 Apr 2014, 4:36 pm

Though I was diagnosed at the age of six, I heavily rejected much of the special treatment I was given for most of my school career, and during my early to mid teen years, I even went through a "denial" period where I was convinced that I was just an NT who ended up in an unlucky situation. It wasn't until I was 16 that I started realizing what being an aspie was all about, and I eventually grew to embrace it. At the same time however, I realized just how much I screwed up my life by trying to be an NT. To this day, I still have issues with anxiety, depression, lack of motivation, and just general awkwardness, on my own and in social situations.



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02 Apr 2014, 5:00 pm

Diagnosed at 11, moved away from home at 24. When I moved to a new town, I spent a good year isolated due to working afternoons. When I got to day shifts, I got out and socialized and I guess it was then it hit me that something was defintely wrong in a social sense. It was then I had to change the direction I was going in if I was ever going to be more accepting of myself and joyful. Depression and anxiety played its role in my life, as well as "low frustration tolerance" (fancy way of saying "anger management issues").


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02 Apr 2014, 5:07 pm

Milicent wrote:
have you felt traumatized after having realized as an adult that you have had Asperger's Syndrome all along and have tried to bend over backwards trying to live like the average NT?


I found diagnosis to be cathartic - it was thrilling to finally have a document proving that my lifelong handicaps and difficulties were not due to flaws in my personality, but were a diagnosable neurological disorder. There was a brief period of melancholy over the realization that my condition was incurable and was never going to change, but at 49, I had already known that for decades, so it didn't bother me for long. Traumatized? No, I feel vindicated. This is who I am, and who I'm supposed to be and f__k the NT world if they don't get me. If I was ever traumatized, it was by parents, teachers and employers over the years trying to FORCE me to be what they thought I should be.



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02 Apr 2014, 6:53 pm

Yes, and it's very hard to escape trauma you've been a part of inflicting on yourself, along with many of the decent people you've encountered. Trying to adapt becomes second nature, and it's useful, but also exhausting and in the end not enough. Having a reasonable life does mean finding some acceptance of oneself as one is, and not just for the efforts to fit in. I like the way you put that, it describes my experience well.



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02 Apr 2014, 10:28 pm

I stopped trying to fit in. I realize that I never will be able to. I also keep being hyper-vigilant. I don't want to alienate myself by making a social mistake. I don't feel traumatized. I am angry because I feel like I wasted a lot of time. I am scared now that I have a diagnosis, am less willing to take the risks that I took when I thought I was NT. I am more self-accepting now because I don't have the power to change my AS. I have to learn to deal with it.



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03 Apr 2014, 6:20 am

I want to thank you all for taking the time to reply, really appreciate it <3 I am undiagnosed, still processing things and daunted by the task ahead: trying to explain things coherently to NT health professionals.



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03 Apr 2014, 4:14 pm

"To compliment and harmonize, not analyze and stand strong on what matters. To never challenge or debate but to be sensitive and inoffensive."

...to be what people think a girl should be...

I'm NT and this stuff didn't fit with me either.



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03 Apr 2014, 9:21 pm

I've just recently started learning about myself and ASD with the help of a behavior analyst. I've been trying, unsuccessfully, to connect with others my entire life and learning that I won't be able to in the way I had always hoped has been terribly upsetting. I've been taking daily walks that always result in tears running down my face. It's also been wonderful to stop trying to connect like an NT and incredible to look back through my life with some new understanding about why certain things have been so hard. This isn't what I wanted but instead of being like a blif woman staring into the darkness, hoping to see a sunrise, I can move on and be ...something else.



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06 Apr 2014, 3:01 pm

I wish I hadn't tried so hard to be a 'good girl'. It never worked anyway, and it still only ever backfires, and I don't even know who I really am most of the time.



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06 Apr 2014, 7:20 pm

Cinnamon wrote:
I wish I hadn't tried so hard to be a 'good girl'. It never worked anyway, and it still only ever backfires, and I don't even know who I really am most of the time.


This.

The worst bit is realising how much self harm I have done by trying so hard to be someone I cannot be. Believing that if I just forced myself a little bit more, tried a bit harder, that special future full of imaginary delights can finally be mine.

And then, one day, I woke up and I realised that all that time I was working hard to get to a place where I could be left alone in peace and quiet to enjoy my solitude and my life without outside interference. I was working hard but it was leading me away from where I wanted to be and towards all that I was trying to escape. The hardest part is trying to explain this to people who think they are important part of your life. People who think they have a claim in what you do with your life and how you decide to live it.



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07 Apr 2014, 2:50 pm

leafplant wrote:
Cinnamon wrote:
I wish I hadn't tried so hard to be a 'good girl'. It never worked anyway, and it still only ever backfires, and I don't even know who I really am most of the time.


This.

The worst bit is realising how much self harm I have done by trying so hard to be someone I cannot be. Believing that if I just forced myself a little bit more, tried a bit harder, that special future full of imaginary delights can finally be mine.

And then, one day, I woke up and I realised that all that time I was working hard to get to a place where I could be left alone in peace and quiet to enjoy my solitude and my life without outside interference. I was working hard but it was leading me away from where I wanted to be and towards all that I was trying to escape. The hardest part is trying to explain this to people who think they are important part of your life. People who think they have a claim in what you do with your life and how you decide to live it.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. The vast amount of shared experiences is just amazing :o



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08 Apr 2014, 12:21 am

It makes oh so much sense.

When I got diagnosed last year at age 55 it was pure joy and relief followed by things making sense including a lot of things other posters discussed that I had long since forgotten. After decades of holding it in at all costs, trying prevent people from seeing parts of me at all costs I am first stating to realize what these costs are. At times I am unsure if I am acting or it is the real me with added skills. I pushed aside all emotions until I was numb. It worked in the sense that I survived and am here. I have made progress. It is nice to feel and be human again but I still have a ways to go. I have not really cried since I was a little kid. I don't know if this makes sense but I almost psychically feel my true aspie-autistic self trying to desperately trying to escape from the prison he was put in. I am trying to pull him out but just can't quite do it. I should get professional help with this but I used up the funds getting diagnosed. Having this feeling of being so close but yet so far the last few months has been frustrating and scary. Writing this down really helped a lot. I feel much better now.

Thank Milicent for starting this important thread. Fellow posters, some of you wrote about inflicting yourself. I started to write similar language and realized that made it sound like it was our fault. We did what we had to do to survive. With our limited knowledge there was no other realistic choice. But now we have the explanation and the opportunity to become ourselves. Scary but exciting also.


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08 Apr 2014, 2:45 am

I've always felt very different from others, so it would not be a surprise to me if I indeed get diagnosed as AS. The problem for me would be to handle others' reactions to it. It was one thing when I was living by myself, but now there is extended family, parents at the childrens' school, work colleagues etc to consider. In a way I have painted myself in a corner. Most people I've met would probably not guess what I'm struggling with, as I've learned to act well a certain way that's socially acceptable.

I grew up with an older sister who is treated as a "golden child", so much of success and who gets a say in the family has been modelled after her. So in a way I have always strived for a life that's been impossible for me to attain. My sister was invited to a lot of parties, extremely popular. In contrast I didn't have a GF until I was 28.



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08 Apr 2014, 6:36 am

coffeebean wrote:
I was diagnosed as a child, but the only thing that changed was that I was given more support in school. I grew up pressured to be emotional, responsive, and interested in others for the sake of being interested. To compliment and harmonize, not analyze and stand strong on what matters. To never challenge or debate but to be sensitive and inoffensive. Even most here on WrongPlanet fit the bill more than I do, although I can easily act my way through simple situations.

I spent over 10 years in a depression and often struggled with anxiety, as well. The day I stopped caring about being harmonious and nice they both went away, and I'm feeling better than ever now. I even made new friends who are like me and the experience is helping me to heal two decades of repression and anger.

I think that counts for emotional trauma. I still use the social techniques, but only if I'm curious, I care about the person, or I want/need something.


This sounds like me. Until I got married, now I am into prescribed drugs to help tolerate my wife before I end up botching my marriage. Paxil since college made me very pro-active and solved my anxieties to survive. However, I am thinking I will need something to calm me down when discussing and nagging with my wife without leading to regrettable meltdowns (since I can't avoid her; she is my life partner! )


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