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DejaQ
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18 Feb 2007, 4:54 pm

This is something that popped into my mind once or twice - do people generally say they "suffer" from Asperger's or Autism? Because I don't feel like I'm "suffering", so I generally just say that I'm "affected by" (or rather more simply, "have") Asperger's. :lol:

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18 Feb 2007, 4:56 pm

i feel like the suffering comes more from not understanding myself than anything else.


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18 Feb 2007, 4:58 pm

Yeah I think that too. I don't feel like I suffer. Somedays that is easier to say than others. But most days I feel pretty calm and in control.



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18 Feb 2007, 4:58 pm

I don't suffer.

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18 Feb 2007, 5:22 pm

I suffer from being a feeling /thinking being on a rock filled with pain, insanity and chaos created by the absurdity of the human condition.


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18 Feb 2007, 5:32 pm

My waking hours are about 20% suffering, 40% enjoyment, and 40% :|


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18 Feb 2007, 5:36 pm

People suffer from cancer, but cancer is not who they are.

You're an aspie. It's who you are.


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18 Feb 2007, 5:39 pm

DejaQ wrote:
This is something that popped into my mind once or twice - do people generally say they "suffer" from Asperger's or Autism? Because I don't feel like I'm "suffering", so I generally just say that I'm "affected by" (or rather more simply, "have") Asperger's. :lol:

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I say AS people, and say I have aspergers. I can't call it suffering. Some say they ARE AS, but I think that sounds funny. It may be true, but it SOUNDS funny.

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18 Feb 2007, 5:57 pm

You are not Asperger's. It affects you. Point in case. I am not like Krex, Mark or Steve. I am like me. If you were Asperger's and so was I, we'd all be alike. Also, if you were just Asperger's there would be no point in you taking the Meyers Briggs Personality Type, yet a bunch of us did it and we were different. We saw that we identified with that personality. So we are both Asperger's and Personality. Part of who we are is our experiences in life. So we are Asperger's, Personality and Experience. This goes on exponentially. What makes you the person you are is a multitude of things, one of which is Asperger's. I didn't know I had it for 47 years. Under your premise, I didn't exist. I most certainly existed and had a strong identity in all of that time. Asperger's just explained my brain blips and bizarre eating habits. But, they aren't the same as anyone else's so it's still just one piece of the puzzle that is me.



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18 Feb 2007, 6:07 pm

I don't "suffer" from having AS any more than I "suffer" for being 6'3" tall. Both result in some minor inconveniences, but both have their positive aspects.


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18 Feb 2007, 6:13 pm

ZanneMarie wrote:
You are not Asperger's. It affects you. Point in case. I am not like Krex, Mark or Steve. I am like me. If you were Asperger's and so was I, we'd all be alike. Also, if you were just Asperger's there would be no point in you taking the Meyers Briggs Personality Type, yet a bunch of us did it and we were different. We saw that we identified with that personality. So we are both Asperger's and Personality. Part of who we are is our experiences in life. So we are Asperger's, Personality and Experience. This goes on exponentially. What makes you the person you are is a multitude of things, one of which is Asperger's. I didn't know I had it for 47 years. Under your premise, I didn't exist. I most certainly existed and had a strong identity in all of that time. Asperger's just explained my brain blips and bizarre eating habits. But, they aren't the same as anyone else's so it's still just one piece of the puzzle that is me.


HEY, I'm white. You probably are also.(Apparantly most Aspies are) If we both are, we both are, but can still be VERY different. We just have some similar genetics, etc... The culture might even be similar! AS is the same way. Who knows!? All Aspies might have a gene or two that is different from everyone else. After all, there is too much consistency to just be CHANCE!

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18 Feb 2007, 6:46 pm

Hmmm. My best friend (also an Aspie) is half black, Jewish and bisexual. I wonder what that does to the statistics.


Yes, I am a ghost person (that is what Native Americans called whites).

Isn't it also suspected it occurs more in redheads? My bestfriend does have redheads in the family and so do I. Do you?



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18 Feb 2007, 9:11 pm

I don't suffer, I rebel.



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18 Feb 2007, 9:56 pm

Roll on the revolution.

How can I "suffer" from having a mind that isn't frozen like that of an NT?

Let's show a little sympathy for the bulk of humanity, who can't see beyond the end of their noses.



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18 Feb 2007, 10:02 pm

ZanneMarie wrote:
Isn't it also suspected it occurs more in redheads? My bestfriend does have redheads in the family and so do I. Do you?


My b/f is an Aspie and a redhead :) And it seems his AS more annoys him at times than causes him suffering :lol: It just plain confuses me at times :?



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18 Feb 2007, 10:21 pm

I think someone suffering from AS is somewhat comparable to someone suffering from dyslexia, in the sense that it is often harder for us to infer things and process the information around us as well as others. I know that even now days I still have a hard time with body language and empathy. Being able to infer information from body language, and to be able to make correct assumptions based on empathy is a great skill, that takes time to hone for EVERYONE, not just aspies, so it's kind of hard to ascertain whether or not I'm suffering now--I feel that with the proper concentration I can over come hurdles and so I do not feel debilitated, but some days I do wonder if this is just pride.

In any case, I do believe I suffered from it as a child. The inability to connect with peers, the constant feeling that everybody disliked me, perceiving jokes and banter as personal insults, and taking verbal lashings from adults worse than if I had been physically beaten. Much of my childhood was made much more difficult for me, and I don't feel that I ever really learned how to "coexist" with everyone else until I was about 14. Although it still made social aspects of things very difficult and frustrating, I found at that age I was better able to identify what I needed to work on.

I would say it's possible to suffer from it, but however, I do not think it's the source of my unhappiness.