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OliveOilMom
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05 May 2014, 8:17 pm

Since my mother has been unconscious, for about a week now, I haven't been to the hospital to see her. She always told me that when it was near the end and she was out of it that she didn't want me nor the kids to see her like that. Also, because of my depression and being so upset over this, i don't know if I could handle seeing her out of it like this. I haven't been up there since she got to the point where she wouldn't know I was there and my presence would do her no good.

Not only were the nurses b*****s to me about it, even though I explained things to them, now my friends are coming down on me all judgmental and stuff because I'm not up there.

EVERYTHING I DO IS WRONG! If I go up there, then I've violated promises I made her her since I was 12 about that. She's reminded me of it every time she's gone into the hospital before. "Don't come if I'm dying and not conscious" she would say. "Don't you dare being those kids up here if I'm dying and unconscious either!" she would say. So, I'm getting s**t now from my friends about not being there. I've EXPLAINED this s**t to them over and over. She used to actually say to me "To me, dying is like going to the bathroom. I don't need you in there when I do it, I don't want you in there when I do it, and you don't need to see it!". You can't be clearer than that over it. If she was conscious, I'd be there no matter what she said about it, but she's NOT.

I'm barely hanging on as it is. Financial worries, looming jail for DH over that f*****g dog, my mother, now people judging me left and right. One of my least judgmental friends just got on to me about not being there. I've EXPLAINED this s**t to her! My oldest daughter is blaming me for everything and bitching at me constantly. My husband is no help at all, hell I might as well be single as married to him. Now this.

I'm SO TIRED of being blamed for every f*****g thing that happens, or no matter what I do, it's wrong. I'm SICK, SICK, SICK of it!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !


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05 May 2014, 8:24 pm

Screw them all right now. You're just doing the best you can do, and you can't do more than that.

(Sorry again about your mom...)



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05 May 2014, 8:45 pm

I don't know you. But....

Do you want to see her? Or spend more time with her now?

If you want to be there, go. It's ok.

If not, CALMLY say no, you and your mother decided this together and you want to honor your commitment.



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05 May 2014, 8:49 pm

OOM, I am sorry about your mother and what is happening. My opinion. I would go anyway and disregard your mother's wishes on this. On things like death, NTs will say stuff like this but it is in jest and they don't mean it. PLEASE GO ASAP!! We disagree on things but I'm imploring and begging of you on this. Please GO see your MOTHER and please forgive her for everything! Don't take what she said literally PLEASE!



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05 May 2014, 9:00 pm

I really don't know that I could handle it. I really, really don't.

Even here, people don't understand what I'm saying.


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05 May 2014, 9:11 pm

My new answer, when people ask me why I didn't go up there is "Because I'm obviously a cold, uncaring, heartless b***h of a daughter and she's lucky to be getting away from me!"


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05 May 2014, 9:20 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
I really don't know that I could handle it. I really, really don't.

Even here, people don't understand what I'm saying.


I know it is difficult and it is sad. I just don't want you to regret it if you do not go and you may.



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05 May 2014, 10:01 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
I really don't know that I could handle it. I really, really don't.

Even here, people don't understand what I'm saying.

You and your mother both wanted you to say goodbye while she was still conscious.

People hear your anguish, think you want to be with her more. I think you are missing her already and a visit won't make her well. I'm sorry you are losing a mom you clearly love very much, OliveOilMom.



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05 May 2014, 10:04 pm

Nurses are stupid. They think a mother can never do any harm, and to not be "supportive" of your family is your fault.

They never consider how horrible your parents are or what YOU'RE going through.

I would say this proves who your REAL friends are. To not be supportive in a time when are like this is horrible. To further blame you for this crap when you're obviously hurting and going through so much is SELFISH.

I know you told me about your mother before. Honestly, I know both of our mothers are similar. If I was in your situation, I wouldn't see her. As hard as it is not seeing her and also being so depressed, seeing her might makes things way worse. Also, if she's unconscious, this isn't fair to you. It's like she is practically "gone" at this point, so I totally understand why you won't see her. It makes no sense. Pretty much you will sit there and cry and think about everything in silence, while talking to someone who is not fully there.

It can make things worse. I've seen people do this in hospitals. It makes them worse. It's like they can't let go.



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05 May 2014, 10:24 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
Since my mother has been unconscious, for about a week now, I haven't been to the hospital to see her. She always told me that when it was near the end and she was out of it that she didn't want me nor the kids to see her like that. Also, because of my depression and being so upset over this, i don't know if I could handle seeing her out of it like this. I haven't been up there since she got to the point where she wouldn't know I was there and my presence would do her no good.

Not only were the nurses b*****s to me about it, even though I explained things to them, now my friends are coming down on me all judgmental and stuff because I'm not up there.

EVERYTHING I DO IS WRONG! If I go up there, then I've violated promises I made her her since I was 12 about that. She's reminded me of it every time she's gone into the hospital before. "Don't come if I'm dying and not conscious" she would say. "Don't you dare being those kids up here if I'm dying and unconscious either!" she would say. So, I'm getting sh** now from my friends about not being there. I've EXPLAINED this sh** to them over and over. She used to actually say to me "To me, dying is like going to the bathroom. I don't need you in there when I do it, I don't want you in there when I do it, and you don't need to see it!". You can't be clearer than that over it. If she was conscious, I'd be there no matter what she said about it, but she's NOT.

I'm barely hanging on as it is. Financial worries, looming jail for DH over that f***ing dog, my mother, now people judging me left and right. One of my least judgmental friends just got on to me about not being there. I've EXPLAINED this sh** to her! My oldest daughter is blaming me for everything and bitching at me constantly. My husband is no help at all, hell I might as well be single as married to him. Now this.

I'm SO TIRED of being blamed for every f***ing thing that happens, or no matter what I do, it's wrong. I'm SICK, SICK, SICK of it!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !


Next time someone pops off about not seeing you mother, tell them what you said in the later message, then tell them all to take a flying f*** off the f***ing Steel Pier in Atlantic City.

I know the feeling about always being in the wrong, especially if I can prove myself to be right. I caught hell when my own mother died in the nursing home, and I wasn't there when she died. I was in the hospital for observation since my blood sugars dropped to 22mmol/dl at 2:00am in the morning the day she died. I Never left the hospital until 3:00PM that day and she died at 11:00 am.



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05 May 2014, 10:38 pm

a promise is a promise, and the OP is holding up her end. there should be no controversy.



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05 May 2014, 10:50 pm

I will tell you a lot of RNs I personally have known think they are better than other people. They like the demonize people who "aren't there" because they are burned out and need someone to blame. They like to think their patients are angels and their families are horrid. I mean, if you had to admit the people you take care of are as*holes or somehow not deserving of supportive family, you'd hate your job even more.

I agree with auntblabby. Not only is she holding up a promise, but she's doing what is best for her. No one is looking out for her except for herself at this point, and she is doing a damn good job of it. Everyone else in her personal life who is making it worse should take note that they don't have to live her life.



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05 May 2014, 10:57 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
My new answer, when people ask me why I didn't go up there is "Because I'm obviously a cold, uncaring, heartless b***h of a daughter and she's lucky to be getting away from me!"


I hope that works to get them to leave you alone, and I also hope you don't really think that about yourself.

Going or not going is your decision to make. You have to do what you think is best and what you think is right.

Nobody should be judging you or making you feel bad for your decision.


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07 May 2014, 1:21 am

It's not uncommon for a person who is terminal and close to death to keep family away. A few years ago, a buddy of mine was dying of cancer. We'd known each other since we were kids. He made the decision to have food, fluids, etc. withheld and pass quickly before things got worse, which was the right choice. He didn't want to see his kids traumatized and he didn't want his wife to watch him die. And, he didn't want anyone in the room who depended on him, since he did feel bad about leaving his family. He asked me to sit with him until he died, which I did - it took eleven days. Honestly, he made the right decision for everyone. While he didn't suffer, the last few days weren't pretty. So, for my part, I think you did the right thing by letting your mother pass on in the way that was most comfortable for everyone. I saw in another post that your mother has passed - you have my sympathy.



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07 May 2014, 2:55 pm

SoftwareEngineer is right, too. When I was a caregiver, often, people refused to pass on until either everyone was gone, or only the one person they wanted to be there was in their presence and everyone else was gone. Usually, this is a spouse and/or the oldest family member.



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07 May 2014, 3:24 pm

bleh12345 wrote:
SoftwareEngineer is right, too. When I was a caregiver, often, people refused to pass on until either everyone was gone, or only the one person they wanted to be there was in their presence and everyone else was gone. Usually, this is a spouse and/or the oldest family member.

That's how it worked with my Grandfather. He was suffering for a long time and he didn't pass on until he was alone with Grandma and she looked at him and said it was okay to go and she can make it without him. He was then gone within seconds. That's exactly the type of person he was. Call me callous, but I did not want to see him in that state in his final days. I said my goodbyes about 6 months before and knew that was the last time I would ever see him. He was his old cheerful, sarcastic self and we both knew that was the right thing to do. If anyone judges me for it (and I can be certain they did), then f**k them. I loved him dearly and miss him all the time and he was a far better person than the judgmental a**holes known as my relatives.