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Sisaliker
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17 May 2014, 9:42 am

There is military conscription in Estonia for 17-27 years old male. I have to pass it, but I don't want to do it for many reasons. I am not diagnosed yet.

First of all, I am most of the time muted, it is very hard for me to find a reason to talk with others and when someone talks with me, (usually) I will use simple body language to answer (only yes and no questions). But It is difficult to understand complicated body language. When I have to answer something fast, I can't do that at all, it takes several seconds to answer or I have to be prepared the answer in my head.

Secondly, I have medical problems, which results me going down slowly with physical activity. I have breathing difficulty, I have had it at least since age of 3, breathing by nose for some time leads to being dizzy, I have to breath through mouth so it looks like yawing for others. I can not run more than few hundred meters at time, it leads to panting. I got some heart problems too, heart skips some hits. When I was young, I had some kind of heart disease, it was very painful in heart when I was walking.

I have some sensory problems. Sunlight can be painful for me and blind me. I got hearing problems too, I can not filter talking from noise, it ends up as a mess. Loud and sudden noises can "paralyze" me for few seconds, I automatically close my eyes and I can't control my movements (I am trying to make myself small). Also loud noises makes me aggressive towards people who are talking.

I have a big tic problem, I don't remember a minute without a single tic. Some tics make some body parts tired and/or painful. It might be a tic but I am not sure, when I move my larynx area, it produces a click sound that I can hear.

I fail to do some everyday things, for example make bed or fold clothes. It is so hard for me.

I was bullied for 6 years in school, and I don't want this to happen again because of my off behavior and walking. Tics went very severe after I was bullied from 5th grade 2nd term to 6th grade end non stop. This bully was found to be very good person and it that it was all my fault because I said or did wrong things (I wasn't aware of them being wrong after some time).

I can't stand so many things that are normal for other people. For example it makes me angry when someone isn't wearing a shirt. I am not able to use same toilet with many other people. To avoid it, I do not drink before school at all, I don't think that I can be 8 or 11 months without food or water. There are many other things that makes me aggressive or angry at people.

I take quite many things literally (e.g in math I have done this twice: Teacher told us to write Pythagoras theorem, others understood it as formula but I started to write it in words). I have very poor decision ability, it is hard to decide between two things, I have to know background story to decide about something.

I got very bad short term memory, sometimes I put things in to wrong place. I can hold two items and I put them in to wrong place (e.g butter in to drawer and knife in to fridge). I need to get information about something one by one, if I am given it at once, I might forget it and stop listening at all.

If my routine is changed (e.g getting home later than planned), it can cause some kind of anger like thing in me, but I am able to adapt this, unless it is major change, then I am much more easily annoyed and made aggressive.

I do not remember anything more that I should write about. My questions are:
1) Are people with Asperger Syndrome taken in to military conscription?
2) Is it possible to fix that click noise coming from neck?

I had to make this post to make myself feel better, my tics went worse and headache came.



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17 May 2014, 10:03 am

Maybe you could get medically disqualified?

I think heart problems usually disqualify one for military service. Don't try to get psychologically disqualified if you don't have to.

I did a little research. One is conscripted for either 8 or 11 months.

Only about 1 in 20 people "fit" for the military are actually in the military.



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17 May 2014, 12:29 pm

Ew conscription? Your a person of the world not a slave to your country.

Tell them to eat s**t.


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17 May 2014, 1:10 pm

If I would say that, it will end up with prison or a fine. It would not be a good idea to be in prison.

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I think heart problems usually disqualify one for military service. Don't try to get psychologically disqualified if you don't have to.

Last year August, here was news about "Thomas Method" test in army, it is or was (not sure that if it is still in use) used to see how long you are going to be in army 8 months or 11 months. This test is useless, even sickest people can get in to army.



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17 May 2014, 1:26 pm

Sisaliker wrote:
If I would say that, it will end up with prison or a fine. It would not be a good idea to be in prison.

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I think heart problems usually disqualify one for military service. Don't try to get psychologically disqualified if you don't have to.

Last year August, here was news about "Thomas Method" test in army, it is or was (not sure that if it is still in use) used to see how long you are going to be in army 8 months or 11 months. This test is useless, even sickest people can get in to army.


If your country acts like that i would eventually save your money and move to a better country.

I personally would take jail time or pay the fine if I was drafted or conscripted. Who knows if war is going to break out while your in there and you become a political death pawn. They are forcing you to be a nationalist and sign your life away.


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17 May 2014, 1:36 pm

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If your country acts like that i would eventually save your money and move to a better country.

I was thinking about USA or England, but I don't really like it yet. I got few more years left til school is finished.

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I personally would take jail time or pay the fine if I was drafted or conscripted. Who knows if war is going to break out while your in there and you become some fat rich bastards political death pawn. They are forcing you to be a nationalist and sign your life away.

I am the one who is always somewhere in wrong time, sometimes it can be good or bad. War will start if I go to army, world seems to be working like that, if I do something, bad things will happen.



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17 May 2014, 1:37 pm

Maybe you could say you're a conscientious objector? Then they'd put you alternative national service.



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17 May 2014, 1:38 pm

Sisaliker wrote:
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If your country acts like that i would eventually save your money and move to a better country.

I was thinking about USA or England, but I don't really like it yet. I got few more years left til school is finished.

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I personally would take jail time or pay the fine if I was drafted or conscripted. Who knows if war is going to break out while your in there and you become some fat rich bastards political death pawn. They are forcing you to be a nationalist and sign your life away.

I am the one who is always somewhere in wrong time, sometimes it can be good or bad. War will start if I go to army, world seems to be working like that, if I do something, bad things will happen.


Canada is a great place to live! This country has been good to me.

Read about the Canadian charter of rights and freedoms.


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17 May 2014, 1:38 pm

How old are you? Are you 14? If you are, you're very intelligent.



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17 May 2014, 1:45 pm

Dreycrux wrote:
Ew conscription? Your a person of the world not a slave to your country.

Tell them to eat sh**.


So much win! :D


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17 May 2014, 1:45 pm

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How old are you? Are you 14? If you are, you're very intelligent.

I am 16 right now.

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Come to Canada we would love you here!

We are civilized and I am proud of our charter of rights and freedoms.


Canada is nice place, I like it because of place names, and then Montreal. I got 3-5 years more to think about it, I don't really want to leave from home but Russia threat and low income will change my mind soon.



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17 May 2014, 1:49 pm

If you go to university, are you exempt from the military? If you get a degree, you would be more marketable. Or you could become a foreign student in a place like Canada.



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17 May 2014, 1:56 pm

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If you go to university, are you exempt from the military? If you get a degree, you would be more marketable. Or you could become a foreign student in a place like Canada.

If I would go to university, conscription can be postponed for some time. I am not exempted from the military yet, I need to take medical tests for that. I am planning to go to university to learn more about history, history lessons that are in my school, are very easy for me and it is very common for me to have years a head knowledge about history than "smartest" people of my class. I had a change to ask questions from them in history lesson about WWII. I asked about Operation Bagration, they were clueless about that. Being foreign student would improve my English but I am afraid that my social skills would damage that.



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17 May 2014, 1:58 pm

You could major in history.



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17 May 2014, 2:00 pm

You could major in history.

Then you could teach it.

Many people with ASDs are teachers or professors.



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17 May 2014, 2:07 pm

I have been thinking about teaching history, I like it. I can talk a lot about something when I am given few words or hints (e.g 1942, Stalingrad).