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Climhazard
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25 Feb 2007, 3:08 pm

Anyone ever have difficulty understanding simple sentances even in plain english? Alot when i was younger and even nowadays ill not understand what people tell me sometimes.

For instance my dad would tell me "Hey Evan will you please go out and mow the grass before your mom gets home?" but even though i attempt to follow his lips and listen closely it comes out "Hey Evan will you erofebssargehtwomdnatuoogesaelp your mom gets home?"

Normally i just nod and shy away and figure out what was asked of me. Sometimes it can be really embarassing at work when I get tasked and it never gets done because I didnt understand. I supose I could ask them to repeat it but it is uncomfortable for me.

Is this an AS attribute and has does this afflict anyone else?



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25 Feb 2007, 3:25 pm

Yes.....There was a recent thread about ....."mis understanding peoples words" if you want to do a search for it here......

I am still not sure if this is AS or a common co-morbid......whatever it is,it is very frustrating and causes a lot of problems for me,when I was younger(and parent/teacher would tell me that they had told me to do A,and I either didnt hear them or forgot)
I now ask for clarification at work but if I still havent understood what they are saying after the second time(and they never use the exact same words,so it doesnt really help most times),I do feel embarrassed to ask for a third time and risk getting the...."are you deaf or stupid" look.......Communication takes two......I might not understand what they are saying,not because there is something wrong with my "hearing and understanding"
but because there is something wrong with they way they are using words......cant exactly tell your boss that,though.


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25 Feb 2007, 4:04 pm

Yeah. i deal with this all the time! I dont know if its aspie or not, but it seems most NT people dont have this type of problem that I know. As long as the words are spoken clearly they seem to have no trouble. But my mind seems to hone in on some outside sound while they're talking. Once that happens, I cant hear the person talking until my name is said or something like when ... gets back



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25 Feb 2007, 4:27 pm

I actually had that happen with music lyrics. I would notice that I couldn't understand a single thing the singer was saying in the song. I wondered if it was a different language, but then other kids on my daycare bus (Americans) would be singing along. I was like, "wtf", why don't I understand?

Aphasia-like characteristics are really common in the austistic spectrum.



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25 Feb 2007, 4:40 pm

Well, I used to have almost like one brain. Everything communicated well, etc.... I could listen to lyrics/music on the radio, and a person speaking to me, and thought the need to concentrate on one speaker was a JOKE! NOW, things don't work that well, and it is like my ears and logical parts of my brain aren't directly connected. I have to internally repeat the statements to the logical parts. Nobody would ever know, although if I forgot, and actually VOCALIZED the process, it would come out as echolalia! MAYBE that is why echolalia occurs! If so, then it IS an AS symptom. BTW I CAN understand things just fine, and nobody would ever know. I just thought it was interesting, because it is almost like I am kind of isolated, yet not.

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25 Feb 2007, 4:48 pm

http://www.kidspeech.com/index.php?page=72


check out this link.There are many articles on Central Auditory Processing Disorder....goggle CAPD.I am thinking about being tested but need to know if there are specific "treatments" beyond ADD type meds.


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25 Feb 2007, 5:04 pm

My whole bleedin' life this has. I drop out bits and pieces of the thing I am trying to listen to in favor of odd sounds and noised from wherever. Lots of trouble, lots of "What?"s. Good to be an Aspie: makes a person tough.


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25 Feb 2007, 5:04 pm

krex wrote:
http://www.kidspeech.com/index.php?page=72


check out this link.There are many articles on Central Auditory Processing Disorder....goggle CAPD.I am thinking about being tested but need to know if there are specific "treatments" beyond ADD type meds.


The site says:

Quote:
Difficulty following verbal directions.
Echolalia (repeating back words and phrases without comprehension).
Re-auditorization (repeating back what was heard, and then showing comprehension).
A child who says "huh" or "what" and requires more repetitions of verbal input messages.
Speech sound discrimination difficulties, especially in noise.
Highly distractible/active.
Unintelligible speech, but with adequate vocal inflection and gestures.
Difficulty with memorizing names and places.
Difficulty repeating words or numbers in sequence.
May have speech or language "delays."


With me, it is basically

Re-auditorization (repeating back what was heard, and then showing comprehension).

SOMETIMES!

A child who says "huh" or "what" and requires more repetitions of verbal input messages.

I may say huh or what, and know the answer the minute that statement leaves my lips.

Speech sound discrimination difficulties, especially in noise.

To a degree...

So I guess I don't have CAPD.

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25 Feb 2007, 5:16 pm

I have this problem when I am on the computer and I always ask them to repeat it.


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25 Feb 2007, 5:17 pm

What? I didn't hear you.


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25 Feb 2007, 5:29 pm

Sorry,the first link was a bit lame,try this one.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auditory_p ... g_disorder


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25 Feb 2007, 5:34 pm

when they ask, say "what?" a few times until u get it. or if u only missed 1 or 2 words, repeat words before it.
ex:
they say:
"will you go full up the tank?"
you hear:
"will dfhauiodhsfuodhs tank?"
say "what?
now you hear:
"will you go full sfdafd tank?"
say "go full what?"
they say "the tank"
you say "sorry english is not my first language"
they say "you are doing well"
you say "TY" :D



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25 Feb 2007, 6:02 pm

Yes! Well, sort of: I hear NT's words - there's nothing the matter with my hearing. In a related way, when I'm in a place where there are multiple people (ie: lab break room, museum, store, etc.) I hear the entire audio. Consequently, the signal I receive is a din of NT ruminations about inconsequential occurrences (ie: their mortgage payments, in-law troubles, gossip, status, jealous of who got what raise,
"small talk"). I care nothing about their superficial indulgences. But, about listening to words: If a word is spelled aloud, in letters, I cannot know what the word is! Sometimes I get caught in the transitional words too (ie: in, that, by, there are, etc.). I visualize the nouns. I think my other senses take over and I am able to puzzle out human conversation and interaction. Another thing! Sometimes, when I feel really "far away" (deeply autistic) NT's voices sound like when I am waking up from general anesthesia or a high fever. I hear them far away and I cannot come back. Often the problem is that I do not care what their words are about (see above). I am a scientist/chemist (I work as a lab analyst) plus I like to paint and draw. I am relatively sure I cannot play Scrabble. Usually I like to stack the Scrabble wooden squares into elaborate pyramids while the NT's spell and interact.


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25 Feb 2007, 6:05 pm

Oh, I forgot (I meant the "adendum" but I do know how to spell it): Sometimes strangers think I am foreign, deaf, blind, or drugged. I am not, nor have I ever been, any of these things. I often need to write instead of speak too.


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25 Feb 2007, 7:53 pm

abstrusemortal wrote:
I actually had that happen with music lyrics. I would notice that I couldn't understand a single thing the singer was saying in the song. I wondered if it was a different language, but then other kids on my daycare bus (Americans) would be singing along. I was like, "wtf", why don't I understand?

Aphasia-like characteristics are really common in the austistic spectrum.


I have the same problem with song lyrics. I'll pick up the clearest words but that is usually about 50 - 75 %. If you asked me to listen to a song and write the lyrics, it would be 25 - 50% incorrect. I would literally have to make up words.

To me, when I hear spoken words it is a sound. It is as if the signal does not get identified as speech. I love music, and I write and play music. I can process sound fine but not speech.

It sucks having to say "what?" all the time.

I do have some hearing loss due to loud music, but this is unrelated. Volume is not the problem.

It seems that part of the problem is not properly "marking" the separation between the words. So it is one continuous sound...

"The cashiers at the supermarket were particularly rude today" becomes "The cash iersat the supermar ketwere particu larlyru deto day." Me: "What?"



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25 Feb 2007, 8:21 pm

I have this problem. It seems like folks are speaking another language. Listening at work is a real problem, and I have really done some dumb stuff when I thought the boss said one thing, and I heard another. I think bosses get away with stuff, and just say that you didn't understand it. At a temp job, I had a boss tell me to make copies of a document, and then, after I made the copies, she said that it was only supposed to be the first page. Things like that. Any time I asked for her to repeat anything, she would give me that look, the "are you stupid" look. Her directions as to how to do a job were all over the map, with a great deal of assumptions, and that didn't help, either. I got to where I hated to ask for clarification. I finally told her that I had auditory integration difficulties, and I was let go within two days. Grrrrrr.

And, me too, with music. Lyrics? What are those? Na na na na turn turn turn. Na na na na turn turn turn ... :roll: