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pawelk1986
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08 Jul 2014, 7:52 am

I wonder if it will be ever possible.
I also wonder how it will count the age of patients undergoing hibernation.

Assume that the minor is subject to hibernate during its duration reaches the age of majority.
I wonder how we will treat such persons as adults or underage, because biologically speaking they will be still underage:-)



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08 Jul 2014, 2:05 pm

So many subissues.

How do we do this? A cryogenic sleep that chills but doesn't freeze only works for so long as you would still age/atrophy with the passing of time.

Cryogenic freezing would damage cells and tissues as body fluids turn into crystals. Reviving a frozen person as this point would mandate repairing them at a cellular level.

Now a "stasis" device that creates a bubble of temporal suspension would work, but it is currently beyond our technology.



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08 Jul 2014, 4:52 pm

Well, they're starting human trials for short term (<2 hours) suspended animation at cool, but not subzero temperatures (5-10c). It's worked in pigs and dogs, so it's expected to work in humans. Going beyond that, however, is a problem, because the cells are still alive relying on stored energy to metabolise at a very, very slow rate, such that they survive hours instead of minutes. Find a way to replenish those stores, or increase them, and you might be able to drag it out to weeks and months...

As for the age of majority, I expect we already have precedents, since children do fall into comas some times.



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08 Jul 2014, 5:04 pm

Catholic priest (fidgeting with his handcuffs): "He was 18 years old so how could it be a crime?"
Police man (sighing): "He spent 8 of those years in suspended animation."


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09 Jul 2014, 5:30 am

TallyMan wrote:
Catholic priest (fidgeting with his handcuffs): "He was 18 years old so how could it be a crime?"
Police man (sighing): "He spent 8 of those years in suspended animation."



A very funny but bad joke.
Why does everyone think that priests are perverts, black sheep, perverts occur in each professional group, might as well be a doctor or a teacher.



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09 Jul 2014, 10:17 am

lol

TallyMan wrote:
Catholic priest (fidgeting with his handcuffs): "He was 18 years old so how could it be a crime?"
Police man (sighing): "He spent 8 of those years in suspended animation."



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11 Jul 2014, 12:15 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
So many subissues.

How do we do this? A cryogenic sleep that chills but doesn't freeze only works for so long as you would still age/atrophy with the passing of time.

Cryogenic freezing would damage cells and tissues as body fluids turn into crystals. Reviving a frozen person as this point would mandate repairing them at a cellular level.

Now a "stasis" device that creates a bubble of temporal suspension would work, but it is currently beyond our technology.


Well, we have managed to fix the ice crystal problem, basically by replacing the blood with antifreeze so the body vitrifies rather than freezes. Of course, we haven't yet figured out how to revive people, and given that people are only preserved because they have fatal conditions with current technology they'd likely die minutes after you did (and there might be a few ethical issues with cryopreserving and reviving healthy people instead).