Something I noticed.....

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So I just thought of something, and that is that people who say that just because Adam Lanza had Asperger's syndrome than all aspies must be psychopaths (Just using a notable example here) are usually looking at just the one person, not at the general aspie population. Like, for example, I knew a kid in fifth grade who had bipolar disorder-along with schizophrenia. Does this mean that all people with bipolar disorder have schizophrenia? No, no it doesn't. It just means that he had schizophrenia. So, in the same way, Adam Lanza was just one psychopath who also happened to have Asperger's syndrome, and in no way does it mean that all people with Asperger's are psychopaths. I mean, just because one person in a group of millions with Asperger's was pshychopathic in no way means that all aspies are psychopathic. If a neurotypical killed a single normal person, it wouldn't make the news. But if an aspie did, it would.

Fine. Rant over.

We aspies are usually mad at society for not accepting us, I sure as hell know that I can get really angry at society and everyone. Adam Lanza had a lot of things paired with it, which made him commit the acts just like the Norwegian terrorist Andrew Berwick.

Adam Lanza wasn't "made" to shoot people, he decided to. I've been angry at society many many times, but I haven't been "made" to go on a rampage, and haven't decided to anything like that either. I've had meltdowns, but I don't out shooting people because I might be angry at how society can treat me badly.

The OP's point is correct: the one does not make the other necessary, for an Aspie or an NT.

But regarding Adam Lanza and Sandy Hook event: Having read-up, cross-checked, and looked at many hours of footage about the details of what went on there, I smell fish, so to speak. I think a reasonable case exists that the whole thing was a staged event, part of the mass-mind control media / Hollywood / government / industry propaganda machine. Gun control, or perhaps general terrorization of society to impose greater limitations on civil liberties, being the motive.

Go ahead. Call me a conspiracy theorist. Anyone who does not believe in political, social and economic conspiracies has not done their homework.

I wouldn't put it past them either, given everything else that has been going on (you know). I used to be one who believed that the news media legitimately wanted the truth out there, until I saw the real story being twisted and skewed for political favor. Now I don't watch the news, because the only thing people get is a biased opinion, not the truth, not even what really happened.

For the OP: Yes, this is how society most often attributes bad behavior; with something that cannot be traced back to 'normal' society. Despite the clear numbers supporting the fact that there are far, far, far more people that are supposedly 'normal' that commit these crimes every day, society would rather believe that these people are all 'damaged' somehow, and they latch onto every straw they can, including blaming the weapons used, just so they won't have anything in common with the 'psycho'. The irony is, the majority of society have more in common with the people who commit these acts than any of us combined. The fact is, all data supports that people with A.S. are less likely to commit any crime, let alone mass murder, than anyone.
In fact, it's more likely that people with AS will be victimized, and there have even been cases where some with AS were talked into committing a crime, by people who are too chicken-sh*t to do it themselves, and/or those who simply want to make an arrest.

Actually Adam Lanza doesn't fit the profile for a psychopath. Most spree killers don't. Psychopaths, when they kill, have a very different style. They tend to be serial killers, i.e. the methodically plot and kill multiple people over a longer period of time. They don't go spree killing. Spree killing is not caused by lack of empathy, those who commit it tend to have empathy, but they tend to be more like an animal stuck in a corner.
Adam Lanza is a spree killer, not a serial killer.

Most psychopaths never kill anyone either, you are using a similar stereotype.

I have seen it a few times online but I tie it down to ignorance. Adam did not kill those people because he had AS. He just happened to have it. I never like it when people try and tie violence or criminal behavior to ASD. I just ignore the claims about us being psychopaths.

I read somewhere that to be a serial killer, you have to kill three or more people and Adam sure killed more than three kids right?

I don't think this is any big deal I honestly don't think most people have a clue what Aspergers is and many had never even heard the term before some of these mass shootings. I had some minor surgery last summer and when the nurse was taking my history and I mentioned Aspergers she looked lik i was talking in a made up language. It didnt seem like any of the team there knew what I was talking about. I had to explain it to them.

[quote="League_Girl"]I have seen it a few times online but I tie it down to ignorance. Adam did not kill those people because he had AS. He just happened to have it. I never like it when people try and tie violence or criminal behavior to ASD. I just ignore the claims about us being psychopaths.

I read somewhere that to be a serial killer, you have to kill three or more people and Adam sure killed more than three kids right?[/quote]

The difference is the cooling down time between kills. To be a spree killer you have to kill at least three people in at least two different locations consecutively. If you kill more than than 3 people at a single location, you are only a mass murderer.
A serial killer is someone who commits at least three murders over a period longer than a month and each murder must be separate acts.
The two tend to have very different motivations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spree_killer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_killer

As person with milder form of Pervasive Developmental Disorder with history of mental health crisis.

Governments and other facility related to medical subjects, keeps putting general description that people with ASD are more likely to be victims of perpetrators, I however think that people with mild forms of ASD are more likely to perpetrate than a profoundly developmentally delayed population, because the more mild your symptoms of developmental delay becomes, the more you are you are less likely prone to be victim and more likely to be perpetrate compare to people with profound symptoms of developmental delay.

Because symptoms of developmental disorders comes from profound to a person with history of developmental delay but has almost to normal state of mind

based on my opinion but may contain facts, although it is true that people with history of developmental delays and mental disorders are more likely to be victims of perpetrators than being a perpetrators themselves, it is because of severe form of developmental disorders, people with milder forms of developmental disorders and mental disorders are more likely to be perpetrators than a person with moderate to profound and very, very severe form of developmental disorders, because anyone with severe disorders are not able to function as very well in the nature and might have a learning issues that prevents a person from committing most crimes or prevent a person from breaking the laws at all.



I assume that there are people with very rare form of developmental disorder with symptoms of conduct disorder NPD and APD with psychotic features that can make him or her to make bad choices that may lead to criminal acts


My symptoms of Pervasive Developmental Disorder is mild to the point where I am able to do things that involves social skills, have all the skills to be like a psychopath ( as I developed all the social skills by getting special education) and because I don't have trouble with social skills at all anymore, I am more likely to commit crimes than a profoundly developmentally delayed population.


Just because I have Pervasive Developmental Disorder, doesn't mean that I am not capable of of being a perpetrator, especially because my symptoms of developmental delays are now very mild

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I don't have trouble with social skills at all anymore, even though I do have history of developmental delay and reports that in childhood and early adolescents that I had developmentally delayed milestones and delusional prospective of myself that is part of developmental delay

The problem is disorders of the brain can’t always be catergorised into neat little boxes. Like that person has ASD but not ADHD or psychosis.

Disorders often stray across many boundaries whether NT or ASD.

A genetic study by the simons foundation recently found you can’t really seperate ASD from many other comorbid disorders.

That said being a psychopath cuts across both asd and NT.

Point 1.There is already a up to date psychopath thread in PPR

Point 2.This thread is from when the dinosaur's roamed,I don't know why it was dug up,when there is a year 2020 psychopath thread in PPR.

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