The roid rage myth

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I'm not going to recommend steroid use or anything, but this article makes you think: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/n ... 6828027848.

The steroids users I know aren't particularly aggressive (except for one, but he knows nothing about dieting, dosages, estrogen blockers, or exercise), and while studies conducted on rats have shown a link between testosterone and aggression, the very same tests also show that caffeine makes them equally aggressive.

So steroids cannot increase aggression, irritability, annoyance, or assertiveness?

Not to the extent people think. In any case, weightlifting frees you from aggression, so you'd be suprised to see how many bodybuilders and strongmen who are in fact gentle giants.

I have a friend whose child is sick and frequently hospitalised, often requiring steroids. She describes him as having "roid rage" and I've even seen it when visiting. When he's on them, he's just constantly whiny and irritable (and this child is the ordinarily the sweetest, most good-natured child). It's obviously a totally different situation but I think there is something to "roid rage".

Having said that, I don't know much about this in sports, so I can't comment on that.

I say let people use what they want, and then hold them accountable if they misbehave. Doesn't matter if it's steroids or alcohol. I think the people who become aggressive from alcohol were already as*holes to begin with. There's a sleazy bar here in town where there's often trouble, but that's because they have equally sleazy customers, not because they sell beer.

One thing to consider is the difference between steroid use and abuse, they likely have different outcomes in general....

Welcome to Holland, you are most likely speaking of non anabolic (Catabolic) steroids.... Those aren't the same.

A lot of people who abuse them (most IFBB bodybuilders these days never go off-cycle) aren't aggressive either.

No.

Absent some very unusual physiological reaction, there are no mood altering substances in anabolic steroids.

At best, it puts you into a hormonal state as you were during puberty.

As a guy I know told me, steroids make you more of what you already are. So, if you're a jerk, it makes you a bigger jerk. You do feel good because of how they boost your strength, endurance and recovery, but they don't make you feel things you don't already feel....they only make you feel things more strongly than you normally do.

The issue is one of self-control. The whole "roid rage" lie was started by lawyers trying to blame something else for their client's bad behavior.

If you lack self-control AND maturity, you shouldn't be using steroids...or doing a lot of other things.

Even the steroid-using community advocates starting off your usage with a small, but significant dosage. This serves two purposes. First, to establish a base line of how well you respond to a very conservative amount of anabolic steroids. Second, to see if you do have any unusual reactions to them. It's easier to detox from a low dosage than a large dosage if there are unusual reactions.

Agreed.

Same here.

Roid rage isn't a myth, but roid rage is a annoying thing to name what it really falls under. "Increased aggression and mood swings" and this side effect is well documented through science... Yes self control plays a big role, but there are certain people who do not do well on steoroids, or particular types of steroids.

Then it is still upon the USER for the blame, not the substance.

When it is the SUBSTANCE that is to blame, the USER had no real ability to impose self-control.

A hallucinogenic is to blame because the user can't tell what is real and what is fake. The drug is in control for the most part. A steroid might influence heightened aggression, but absent an unusual reaction, it's never to the point that the USER has no ability to control their choices.

Someone lacking self-control and discipline should not be using anabolic steroids. They likely already have other life problems because of their inability to make good choices.

Caffeine increases your aggression and your mood swings just as much. How often do you see caffeine junkies attacking people? If you expect steroids to make you aggressive, then you may start behaving aggressively on-cycle because of the placebo effect. As a rule of thumb, people who are @ssholes on-cycle are @ssholes off-cycle as well.

If it became publicly known that steroids do not make you aggressive, does not cause dick atrophy, and that they generally have very few side effects if you stick to injectable testosterone and Deca, it would make No-Xplode, gainers, CLA, and so on worthless. Supplement manufacturers would be limited to selling proteins, multivitamins, creatine (if you do not produce enough of this yourself), and Omega 3.

What about testosterone shots/cream. Would it cause aggression and mood swings?

I always wonder if OTC muscle enhancement supplements/protein powder have ingredients that mimic steroids/testosterone. I've never met guys who have big muscles and don't take any muscle building supplements. They don't look natural either.
A coworker of mine works out everyday just lifting weights for hours and eat tons of food but does not take any of those supplements. He is rippled but with very lean muscles.

You get mood swings the first few weeks of the first cycle, but this will usually manifest itself as other things than aggression (mild anxiety, mild depression, increased sensitivity to criticism, and so on). Tablet based steroids are chemically altered, so that the liver can absorb them. In the case of Dianabol, one hydrogen atom in each molecule is replaced by a carbon atom, making this possible. Given that Dianabol is much more concentrated than Test E, this chemical modification can be harmful to the liver.

I know several people who have used steroids. It didn't make them aggressive. Some are rather soft-spoken and don't even raise their voices.



Zinc, magnesium, B6 vitamins, HDL cholesterol, and fats (both saturated and unsaturated) can increase the testosterone levels naturally. Some Eastern-European supplements also contain traces of anabolic steroids.

BONDI HIPSTERS - On the steroids
"Get the f**k away from my lactic acid!"
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this pretty much represents the public image towards steroid users.