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catsarenice
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02 Mar 2007, 8:47 am

Is there a pill I can take for this? Its a part of aspergers I really hate.
When I am forced to listen to a certain bad noise for more than a couple minutes, my mind goes into a psychotic furor of evil thoughts that I have to use all of the energy I have to not act on them. At the same time my heart beats so fast and hard that I feel like it might cause some sort of damage to me.

p.s. I tried xanax and other benzodiazapene-family drugs, they help a little, but then leave me feeling like my head is in the clouds for the next 3 days.

p.p.s. I don't have health insurance so I'd appreciate any advice that doesn't involve a doctor



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02 Mar 2007, 8:59 am

Pills without involving a doctor? Sounds like a bad idea to me.



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02 Mar 2007, 9:14 am

you're lucky to be in a country where healthcare is free.

and most people are lucky to not only not have aspergers, but also not have full-body arthritis either, so they're able to work and pay to go to a doctor if they need to.

I'm lucky to have a friend that works at a pharmacy, but he doesn't have any good ideas what would help other than xanax, though.



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02 Mar 2007, 9:22 am

Diphenhydramine: OTC first generation antihistamine.. makes one drowsy & may cause dizzyness. But this does not indicate long-term usage.. may slow down reaction time to the enviroment: operating machinery or driving a car may be impaired.

Doxylamine is I think 18 hours metabolic life.

Know the metabolic life of these drugs: for diphenhydramine like 8 to 12 hours..

These can have weird side-effects. Read on the back of the box of them to find out about them.

Alcohol and benzo's can be very addicting. You can also try L-tryptophan if you want to order something online or go to the supplement store as this chemical can boost serotonin levels. I think that this has a relaxation kind of feel to it but I never have tried it before. This does not have an addiction profile like benzo's or alcohol. Though, you can withdrawl from serotonin alteration when this is done daily / chronic.

warning: Don't follow my advice as a doctor because I have no authority to give information as valid. Think and judge for yourself to confirm things for yourself...

P.S (My other advice is): don't take benzodiazapenes to sleep(these are mostly short acting metabolic life-span).. second generation antipsychotics can impair sleep quality but unless one has to then it is ones decision - many of these so-called antipsychotic drugs can have long metabolic lives.. Even antidepressants somehow can alter the sleep cycle. But all drugs seem to do this with sleep. Ask a doctor to know specifically of metabolic lives if you are interested.



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02 Mar 2007, 9:29 am

Let us be clear: there is no such thing as free healthcare. It is either paid for at a rate that allow those that need extra it to get service, at the expense of less sick people, or it is subsidized through hidden taxation.

In Alberta we pay a yearly premium based on income, and in Ontario, for example, it is paid for by taxation. It works like insurance. Everyone pays a little, the accumulated total pays doctors, nurses, hospital costs, and the more vital surgeries. It does not pay for medicine. If you need your medicine paid for, you must qualify for additional programs(which are paid for with taxes as well).

Please do not fall for the myth that it is free, and certainly do not spread the myth. It is more properly called subsidized healthcare, or universal healthcare.



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02 Mar 2007, 9:49 am

Not sure what your definition of 'psychotic' is, but when I hear a noise I find painful or penetrating for a time, I fill up with this rage that bursts to come out, and get very violent, angry thoughts running through my head, usually against whoever or whatever is making the noise. I think people beeping their horns outside the house is one of the worst for me, I sometimes feel like running out and smashing their windows. I do not, at such times, see human beings, I see monstrous objects deliberately trying to cause me distress. :?



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02 Mar 2007, 10:03 am

Fuzzy wrote:
Let us be clear: there is no such thing as free healthcare. It is either paid for at a rate that allow those that need extra it to get service, at the expense of less sick people, or it is subsidized through hidden taxation.

In Alberta we pay a yearly premium based on income, and in Ontario, for example, it is paid for by taxation. It works like insurance. Everyone pays a little, the accumulated total pays doctors, nurses, hospital costs, and the more vital surgeries. It does not pay for medicine. If you need your medicine paid for, you must qualify for additional programs(which are paid for with taxes as well).

Please do not fall for the myth that it is free, and certainly do not spread the myth. It is more properly called subsidized healthcare, or universal healthcare.


I'm sure catsarenice knows that. STILL, BUMS get it for free, and Americans ARE paying for it through taxes, but most(like myself) DON'T get it!

catsarenice,

*I* have arthritis! 8-( And I found out WHY! And its cause affects MOST people in the US and its "cure" could help your attitude a LITTLE. I say CURE because it will only help physical problems a bit, and SLOW progression. The product? MAGNESIUM! Take a good calcium/magnesium supplement(about 1G calcium and 400mg magnesium per day), and it may help you a LOT. It reduces bone loss, helps bone/muscle repair, immunity, memory, attitude, and pain control. ALSO, symptoms of extreme overdose are mild, and reversible, so it is safe.

Steve



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02 Mar 2007, 12:18 pm

The noise->adrenalin->rage thing happens to me. Sometimes I want to run out yelling ShutUpShutUpShutUp - and it doesn't help that I'm supposed to be polite about it.

Ear plugs. Not free but pretty cheap. Keep them handy at all times. Do not be shy about using them in public.

Mozart - for me, it seems to be an antidote to jangle sounds.

Change how much input you're stuck with. Even some relief is better than none.



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02 Mar 2007, 12:38 pm

I have a similar problem, my mother clearing her throat, and my sister singing, agravate my nerves. I think it's called sensorary overload. This is one of the reasons why I feel that I have asperger, as well as, or instead of T.S. If your neck is out of place, maybe a chiropractor might help. It helped me somewhat.



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02 Mar 2007, 2:14 pm

Graelwyn wrote:
Not sure what your definition of 'psychotic' is, but when I hear a noise I find painful or penetrating for a time, I fill up with this rage that bursts to come out, and get very violent, angry thoughts running through my head, usually against whoever or whatever is making the noise. I think people beeping their horns outside the house is one of the worst for me, I sometimes feel like running out and smashing their windows. I do not, at such times, see human beings, I see monstrous objects deliberately trying to cause me distress. :?


I so agree with you on the horn thing!
About 15 months ago, there was a car parked in the visitor's parking lot right across from our unit. And their alarm and horn went off for 2 days straight. I was going crazy- I was so happy when the car battery finally died. But it didn't happen soon enough. It was everything I could do to not go out there and pull the car apart. I called the management office and security to complain and I called the police about the noise disturbance. My son wasn't too happy about the noise either- at that time we didn't know he had autism yet. My hubby stopped noticing the noise after the first couple hours- but it only seemed to get worse for me.

I was still in a paranoid state from my bipolar and I was sure that 'they' had designed some test to see if I'd crack. I can see how ridiculous that thought is now- but at the time I thought it had to be true.



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02 Mar 2007, 2:23 pm

BeautyWithin wrote:
Graelwyn wrote:
Not sure what your definition of 'psychotic' is, but when I hear a noise I find painful or penetrating for a time, I fill up with this rage that bursts to come out, and get very violent, angry thoughts running through my head, usually against whoever or whatever is making the noise. I think people beeping their horns outside the house is one of the worst for me, I sometimes feel like running out and smashing their windows. I do not, at such times, see human beings, I see monstrous objects deliberately trying to cause me distress. :?


I so agree with you on the horn thing!
About 15 months ago, there was a car parked in the visitor's parking lot right across from our unit. And their alarm and horn went off for 2 days straight. I was going crazy- I was so happy when the car battery finally died. But it didn't happen soon enough. It was everything I could do to not go out there and pull the car apart. I called the management office and security to complain and I called the police about the noise disturbance. My son wasn't too happy about the noise either- at that time we didn't know he had autism yet. My hubby stopped noticing the noise after the first couple hours- but it only seemed to get worse for me.

I was still a paranoid state from my bipolar and I was sure that 'they' had designed some test to see if I'd crack. I can see how ridiculous that thought is now- but at the time I thought it had to be true.


Phew, so relieved I am not alone in this. To be honest, I used to think feeling such discomfort from noise was normal, but now I know better, and it is frustrating that it seems to result in such extreme anger and distress at times. It is like an instant, automated reaction. Noise=rage=want to kill someone, lol.



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02 Mar 2007, 2:26 pm

Graelwyn wrote:
Phew, so relieved I am not alone in this. To be honest, I used to think feeling such discomfort from noise was normal, but now I know better, and it is frustrating that it seems to result in such extreme anger and distress at times. It is like an instant, automated reaction. Noise=rage=want to kill someone, lol.


Exactly!! lol



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02 Mar 2007, 4:37 pm

Certain noises annoy me too, like cars honking, car alarms, and I cannot stand the sound my alarm clock makes. Sounds like that can really make me go crazy if they last for a while.



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08 Mar 2007, 11:56 am

Yes, I can't cover it all here, but some sounds drive me bonkers. Loud noises bother me but repetitive noises ( a noise that occurs at regular or random intervals) eventually really pisses me off.

I have lived with someone whom made a noise "emm" a really low decibles every minute or so, barely audible I guess unless you are me of course.

When I sat next to them I had to crank the tv volume and lean to one side, head resting on hand (over ear of course :wink: ) and try to focus on the tv.

Blah... it is maddening to say the least.



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08 Mar 2007, 1:01 pm

I have a problem wit my equilibrium, so whenver I hear certain noises I usually fall over... At school I always have to check the clock to see if the school bells going to ring soon (it rings about ever 45 minutes I think) and when it's about to I have to cover my ears, that noise just drives me crazy... Any loud, ringing noises like alarm clocks, whistles, those all make my head hurt.



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08 Mar 2007, 9:36 pm

I hate the beeping noise that computers make. Every time I hear it, I want to walk over and tell the person to shut it off.